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Dwill wants to go to NY?

http://twitter.com/#!/CBSSportsNBA/status/39179552974581760

WOAH

1st CP3 makes a toast at Melo's wedding to meet up with him and Amare there, now DWill wants in maybe? Who'd you rather have if your Amare/Melo/NY? Or could they both work in the same back court? Add this in with Dwight maybe in NY... I fthey had a lineup of Dwill, CP3, Melo, Amare and Dwight and a bunch of bench d leaguers thats the best team by far we've seen since.... ever?


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How would they even sign them

How would they even sign them all? I'm not even sure if they'll have the salary cap to sign Deron or Chris Paul after they get Melo.

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If New York does the deal

If New York does the deal with Denver to get Chancey Billups, they will most likely bring him back the next season on a exp deal in 2012.

That's 14 mil, well enough to sign Deron Williams that offseason

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If Melo signs that extension

If Melo signs that extension they can't sign CP3 or Dwill or anyone else unless they want to take like 8 or 9 mil a year and this isn't considering with the new CBA the salary cap could be lower or we could even have a hard cap. The only way they can land one of these guys is if they got them through trade but they will have no assets after the Melo trade and Utah will never trade Deron and the NBA owned Hornets won't allow CP3 the franchise to be traded to the Knicks.

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If Melo signs that extension

If Melo signs that extension they can't sign CP3 or Dwill or anyone else unless they want to take like 8 or 9 mil a year and this isn't considering with the new CBA the salary cap could be lower or we could even have a hard cap. The only way they can land one of these guys is if they got them through trade but they will have no assets after the Melo trade and Utah will never trade Deron and the NBA owned Hornets won't allow CP3 the franchise to be traded to the Knicks.

Incorrect. The NEW CBA will have different contracts, but the same salary cap numbers. So the Knicks in 2011 will have ( if the Melo deal goes down) around 56 mil in covered cap. Billups will be a FA in 2012 so that's 14 mil off the books. With lower contracts, we should be able to sign Deron Williams under the new CBA

Edit: The fact the Hornets are OWNED by the NBA would mean they are more likely to move Chris Paul because the NBA wants to keep the franchise in NO and David Stern even said they have to "ugly" up the franchise to keep it in New Orleans. He said it on Bill Simmons podcast

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They'll Have Enough

Carmelo and Amar'e would be the only guys with Large contracts. Turiaf/Billups both expire in 2012 and they'll have 18mil coming off and would be 3mil under to start the year. Not to mention Utah or NOLA will do a S&T and get draft picks, maybe Toney Douglas and a TPE instead of letting their All Star walk so it works financially

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Honestly disloyalty makes me

Honestly disloyalty makes me more mad than anything. And if these reports are true about him wanting out we should trade his ass asap. And i can go ahead and burn his jersey. I can understand him wanting to feel like he has a chance to win, but still.

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The sad part is...

The jazz are still fighting for a play off spot and its not that their best player wants off half way through the year, but he is also your pg and captain. It is sad that they fo this sh!t when they still are on another team same with melo. I want a player like durant or rose above anyone else. A modest person who seems loyal and wants what is best for the francise not for themselves.

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AGREED ^^^^^

I know to bad he's not more like KD. He's never had a bad word to say about anyone. (except Bosh lol) But he signs a 5 year deal, doesnt make a big deal about it. Doesnt need the biggest contract in the league, tho he could have asked for it. Doesnt make a big deal about playing in a small market. Or that his team couldn't win it all because of their lack of size. He just goes out and balls, Leads his team, and doesnt make excuses.

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Take

Take the New Jersey deal!

Take it now, KOC!

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AGREED Again ^^^^^

IF D Will really does want out i totally have to agree with you Nomoney. Even tho he's been my favorite player since forever, The pre madonna's gotta go.

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D Harris would be a pretty

D Harris would be a pretty good replacement. And the high draft picks would also be great to add some young pieces. Plus maybe Favors? KOC should pull the trigger tonight.

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Destroy and rebuild.

Favors and a few picks would be a nice start.

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I know the players won't

I know the players won't agree, but I think a franchise tag should be included in the next collective bargaining agreement. The NBA is the only league where players seem to be &$#%#&@!ing and complaining about where they play and try to play their own hand. If they had a franchise tag, it would make for better competition through out. Every star player tries to force their way to NY, Miami, LA Lakers, or Chicago and that isn't fair. The players have too much power to determing their own destination right now and that needs to be balanced out.

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whts wrong about wanting to choose where you work?

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CodySLC "Doesnt need the

CodySLC

"Doesnt need the biggest contract in the league, tho he could have asked for it."

Kevin Durant signed a max deal with the extension.

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First all I blame Fantasy

First all I blame Fantasy Leagues for these made up teams. The Knicks if they work it right could build a team around 3 All-Stars like Miami. But it would be Amare/Melo/CP3 and or Deron. Not both that doesn't make sense. And then throwing Howard on the team too is just idiotic. Like seriously do you really think that is possibe? Not in their prime.

This came about ONLY because Melo and Deron were hanging together on All Star media day and then people just start to think crazy things.

And this is why Allen Iverson should have a stature built in Philly. He never wanted to leave even up till they traded him. Then his first game back he walks out in the Nuggets uniform and kisses the Sixers logo the team he is about to play. That is what you call LOYALTY. And that is why we love him.

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wait and see.... i mean it

wait and see....

i mean it could happen but i feel that every star player with less than 3 years on his contract was rumored to go to NY....

dont count it out but remember that the knicks wont be able to sign everybody!

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If Deron did in fact say this

If Deron did in fact say this he has got to be one of the most stupid athletes I've seen. He's already being blamed by some for running out a HOF coach, so why now would you say this? You are locked in Utah for another 2 years why the hell would you want to alienate yourself from your teammates and fan base even more. If he continues to incinuate NY in 2012 I hope Jazz fans give him hell every game next year.

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Is this REALLY confirmed CBS?

Is this REALLY confirmed CBS? With associates? Who is associates? associates WHO? I would love to see Deron Williams come to New York but come on, the media would say anything to pull ppl in. The guy already said he is going to address his future when it is time to. This is all just speculation due to Melo being closer to coming to Ny and what happen with Sloan.

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BESIDES, thats not even in

BESIDES, thats not even in his charcter to talk out like that, he's the kind of guy that espresses frustrations on the court whether it be how aggressive he plays or his body language, ASSOCIATES WHO!?!

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Lebron all over again

Lebron all over again

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Dealing him to the Nets

Dealing him to the Nets really is the best offer. If Utah gets involved with this Anthony deal they could possibly work something out that would benefit everybody. So far the Nets are willing to give up Harris for Billups, thats great but Billups is kind of old and on his last leg so they would only have a PG for a couple of years. They could use one of their draft picks to get that new PG once Billups does leave but if they give it up to the Nuggets to get Melo then they are sol and have to use Farmar who can lead the team but only to a certain extent and can only do so much. Wouldn't it be better to get a younger PG like Dwill and then still trade picks?

Also if both Favors and Murphy are traded together to Denver then Favors would still struggle because he wouldn't get the oppurtunity to start. Both Favors and Murphy need to be on separate teams in order for one (Favors) to play well. Besides the Nuggets already have K-mart who has the same skills as Favors and he could be an even better teacher. So they could get the Magic involved who really could use a 4 like Murphy.

Here's a deal that I propose that would actually benefit all teams involved. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vgbpmn

Plus a 2012 draft pick (lottery protected) from the Nets to the Jazz as well as a 2011 pick (Lottery protected) to the Nuggets. The Magic would also give up a 2011 draft pick to the Nuggets.

If the Jazz are smart they should do this deal. Yeah they give up their best player but everyone knows he will leave soon anyways so they might as well start rebuilding now before they end up like the Cavs or the Raptors. The Jazz should do this deal and then in the 2012 draft they can get someone like Rivers or Marquis Teague, or Cory Joseph and they would be set. The Nuggets can get Hamilton or Honeycutt and then with a late first rounder they too would be set.

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So your saying trade our only

So your saying trade our only all star for, aging Billups, a couple role players, and a couple picks that wont be in the lotto? Bad trade.

Melo isnt going to New Jersey. He wont sign the extension their. So the Nets second best option would be to go after D-Will. Which him going anywhere right now isnt going to happen. But we all saw the deal they were offering for Melo. They probably offer close to the same deal for Deron. And that would be a much better trade for Utah then your deal.

Hers's my idea. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4aoxag4 Plus NJ throws in atleast 3 unprotected picks.

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CodySLC, the trade I proposed

CodySLC, the trade I proposed actually helps Utah. Yes billups is aging but I also mentioned that the Nets would give up a 2012 draft pick to us lottery protected. Dwill and Melo are not good enough alone to help the Nets win automatically. It will help yes but in order to get to the top you're going to have to have a complete team. The nets will not have a complete team. They'll have Dwill, no 2 guard, Melo, no 4, and Lopez who can't rebound the ball to save his life. If you can't rebound you lose and that is exactly what will happen. Yeah they will play well but without a 4 or 5 that can rebound they aren't gonna make the playoffs. So that means they get a lottery pick and it would go to Utah, plus Utah has their own pick which would be in the mid range. So not only does Utah get a bunch of role players but they also get to keep AK, keep Millsap, keep Big Al, and then get to draft a PG of the future like Rivers or Teague. (Those two are not role players look at the 2012 draft and you will see what I mean)

I know Melo says he won't sign in New Jersey but he did say he was willing to sign there if the Knicks could not put together a deal that the Nuggets would accept. Meaning that Melo just wants out of Denver as quickly as possible. Denver is not going to give up Melo just for Curry, Chandler, Gallo and 1 pick and that's exactly what the Knicks offer is. Besides how could you not want to sign in New Jersey when you get the chance to play alongside Dwill? and he will get to play in New York eventually just not with the Knicks. If the Nets play their cards right they can still get Melo, and if Utah gets involved in the deal as well they can actually win out.

Yeah your deal is pretty good too but with Millsap and Jefferson why would we need Favors and Murphy? Murphy would serve as a nice backup to Millsap but that is a pretty pricy backup, and that will further decrease his value which will make it harder to trade him. Favors would be nice but again he's not going to develop sitting on the bench and that's exactly what he will do because of Millsap and Jefferson. I honestly think my deal would be much better. We get the role players that will really help us out and a 2012 draft pick that is lottery protected. Afflalo and Humphries are just the kind of players that are perfect for Utah. Hard workers, good defenders and good rebounders. That 2012 lottery pick would really help Utah plus their own from this year and their own in 2012, this trade could actually help Utah as well as New Jersey, Denver, and Orlando.

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Wait when did Melo say he

Wait when did Melo say he will not sign with the Nets? Not sources saying this and that I'm talking about Melo actually saying it? Hopefully you aren't putting all you're eggs into the "sources" since most of the time they have been wrong. When will people learn from this past summer

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Wait when did Melo say he

Wait when did Melo say he will not sign with the Nets? Not sources saying this and that I'm talking about Melo actually saying it? Hopefully you aren't putting all you're eggs into the "sources" since most of the time they have been wrong. When will people learn from this past summer

Melo and NJ met, he wants to sign with the Knicks, but Ric Bucher has stated Melo will sign the extension with New Jersey if DEN and NY don't get it done.

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Yah!

This is unrealistic in about 1,000 ways...

But we should trade him to the Timberwolves for Ricky Rubio and some draft picks.

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Like i said MELO hasn;t said

Like i said MELO hasn;t said anything just a reporter saying what he heard from someone else.

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Here we go again...

Here we go again...

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But name the last time a

But name the last time a player ever reported his own stuff to the media like that? That's a little unrealistic to say that about EVERY situation.

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Exactly oh Canada....Here we

Exactly oh Canada....Here we go again . Summer of 2010 all over again with some fans hearts being broken once again when things don't turn out the way they thought it would because they believe any report that benefits there team

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I agree, trade him to

I agree, trade him to Minnesota for Rubio and this years lotto pick. Minnesota would accept and Utah would gain a nice core of a good 1,3,and 5. Solid rebuilding tactics. I doubt they even make te playoffs this year the way things are falling apart, and Kahn is the type of guy that is waiting for a trade like that to fall in his lap.

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Thats something the Jazz

Thats something the Jazz front office would do just to piss DWill off too. lol

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Lakeshow I just cant stand

Lakeshow I just cant stand how every rumour starts with New York. why is New York the only team players would want to go to? How would New York trade for Williams if they trade everything they have for Melo, I mean we tlk about how we believe Melo will eventually be traded to new York in one thread then talk about Williams being traded to New York in another. This wont be the only retarded WIlliams to New York thread we see, its hilarious how easily the media gets us to eat up their "New York" B.S.

Williams is under contract to Utah for 3 years...If Utah wants to trade him then great, they wont trade him for New Yorks Felton, Galinari, and Chandler just because hes whining. If Utah wants to trade him they will trade im wherever the best offer is because Williams has no say in it at all, especially with the new CBA involved.

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Williams is under contract to

Williams is under contract to Utah for 3 years...If Utah wants to trade him then great, they wont trade him for New Yorks Felton, Galinari, and Chandler just because hes whining. If Utah wants to trade him they will trade im wherever the best offer is because Williams has no say in it at all, especially with the new CBA involved.

LOL....HIGHLY INCORRECT. Williams has this season, then next season then he's a FA

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Williams is under contract

Williams is under contract for this season and next. Then he has a player option for the year after that.

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http://hoopshype.com/salaries

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/utah.htm

Yea, end this season. That means he has 1 year with a option, then he opts out. So you pretty much have 1.5 seasons if you think he's gonna leave

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I'm not so sure what to

I'm not so sure what to believe. I guess we will just wait and see.

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Hoopsype is pretty credible

Hoopsype is pretty credible

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Ok and what did they say

Ok and what did they say about him leaving? Im not surprised their is alot of talk about stars leaving their teams. Even Howard is in rumors about leaving Orlando and going to L.A. Its the new trend. The media plays into it and makes things out to be somthing their not.

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Ok and what did they say

Ok and what did they say about him leaving? Im not surprised their is alot of talk about stars leaving their teams. Even Howard is in rumors about leaving Orlando and going to L.A. Its the new trend. The media plays into it and makes things out to be somthing their not.

Hey, I feel you. But as a Jazz fan answer me this: Why would Deron Williams stay in Utah? They aren't a top 4 western conference team and with team building looking for one more piece.....why would he stay in Utah

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Mello never said he wouldn't

Mello never said he wouldn't go to the Nets, but the trade offer has been on the table since the offseason. Its been basically the same deal and it was rumored again in January, whats the hold up in the deal then. If Mello has no problem playing for the Nets this would'nt be an issue even. Of course every big name player being mentioned is rumored to go to the Knicks because they've had cap room and are a big market. Now they actually have a top player in Amare too.

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Mello never said he wouldn't

Mello never said he wouldn't go to the Nets, but the trade offer has been on the table since the offseason. Its been basically the same deal and it was rumored again in January, whats the hold up in the deal then. If Mello has no problem playing for the Nets this would'nt be an issue even. Of course every big name player being mentioned is rumored to go to the Knicks because they've had cap room and are a big market. Now they actually have a top player in Amare too.

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They were a top 4 team

They were a top 4 team earlier this year. Remember this team has a whole new look to it, and its their first year as a group playing together. They been playing without Memo Okur all year also., hopfully we can come back and contribute as that big off the bench, and space the floor. I think they will get better this team has some talent on it. That being said we probably are a 5th or 4th seed at best out West, enless somthing changes. We still need some help at sg. D-Will and big Al are a good duo and Millsap, A.K. and good starters in this league. Be we still need a healthy Memo and some scoring on the wing.

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That being said we probably

That being said we probably are a 5th or 4th seed at best out West, enless somthing changes.

Your like 8th now. Tied with Memphis for the 8th spot. It's not a lock you guys make the playoffs this year...

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I said at best. We wont

I said at best. We wont finish 8th i garentee that. 5-7 I would guess.

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Alright, let's go with 5-7

Alright, let's go with 5-7 seed. You really think Deron Williams wants to stay on a team that can't get into the top 4 of the West? A team that rotates player, never changed up the style?

Like I said before, the only reason I believe Williams is leaving Utah in 2 years is not because it has to do with NYK, but because realistically, your not gonna win in Utah.

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Utah does need to rebuild

4th or 5th seed is pushing it. More 7-8, however this season, I don't see playoffs for them unless they get better at home and in general. Deron is most definitely not going to remain a Jazz player when his contract expires. Okur is a major question mark, Kirilenko is a FA and who knows if he's gonna stay with as up and down his tenure in Utah has been. They lack shot creators at both wing spots, and their defense in the paint isn't where it needs to be, Jefferson is simply not good defensively and Millsaps can be overmatched. They lack quality depth, size, and general talent so I think Williams is definitely available in a trade if it's a great one. The Jazz simply do not attract great FA's and that needs to be taken into account.

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