Dwight's Agent: "Dwight won't sign an extension"
I'm just sick of this drama, I hope it ends soon, but now his damn agent says that he won't sign an extension with anybody and will become a Free Agent. His agent said,
"He fully intends to explore free agency at the end of next season, regardless of what team trades for him, including Brooklyn."
So this takes the Lakers out of it, who combined with his iffy back and reluctance to commit long term hopefully realize that they're better off with Bynum than taking this gamble, or unless they wait it out to the point where Orlando just wants him out, and just does a Bynum-Howard swap without a commitment.
But the most realixtic destination is Houston, who have been willing to rent Dwight all along. Now the reported deals we've heard are all false, Daryl Morey isn't stupid enough to give up all of those assets. He's willing to give up D-Mart, Parsons, 3 first rounders, Patterson, and one of their rookies. In the end I think the Rockets will have to give up Montie, Lamb, and White plus picks, but I hope this ish ends soon.
Have there been any updates on Howard's back?
I don't know why more people haven't been talking about this...
I heard that the doctors said it's fine, but Dwight's camp was trying to spread rumors that it wasn't fine to scare off potential suitors.
I hope he just sticks with that. Period, full stop, no matter what, I'm not signing an extension. No discussion. You ask me this question again, I punch you in the face. Just end this stuff. Make a decision and be done with it.
He could still end up in Houston then because Houston has assets to burn (all those PFs and some picks). He could also still end up as a Laker since the Lakers are poised for a title run with Nash and the window gets smaller every year as Nash, Kobe and Gasol get older while OKC has two more years before salary cap issues cause them to lose players. The Nets will also pay for a one year rental since you never get a second chance to make a first impression and they know they can win a free agent resign war if they get Howard with his Bird Rights attached.
If Dwight goes to Brooklyn we would assume he will resign there, other teams like the Lakers might take the gamble as Bynum is an FA next summer and could always move on ( might Bynum be annoyed that no extension has been offered to him and that he always seems to be on the trade block). If the season goes on then Howard for Bynum straight up might become more realistic if Bynum would look to commit to Orlando.
Could the Thunder perhaps be a wildcard with big extensions due for Harden and Ibaka plus maybe even Westbrook available if we assume that KD is off limits then they have rookies, fillers and picks to build a deal up quite easily to pair D12 with KD if say one of Harden or even Westbrook were sent to Orlando with Perkins for D12 and Turko perhaps.
It could even be D12 might be doing a CP3 waiting to become an FA to get the best possible deal available to him.
I can't be mad at Howard for not wanting to sign an extention. Deron Williams did the same thing.
IF I'm the Lakers, I just go for it and hope that a deep season title run, the Lakers' winning tradition and all of the increased marketing opportunities is enough to convince him to stay.
Its not the extension, its the indecisiveness and bad work by his agent and publicists. Deron never opted in and he didnt go around saying I will sign with this team but not that one, he basically just let everything play itself out, became FA, narrowed down to Dallas and Brookly and stayed with Brooklyn.
All people want is some decisiveness, dont say your heart is in Orlando but you dont want to sign there. Dont say one week the only teams you will sign extension with are Brooklyn and Dallas, then say you wont sign extension with anybody, including Brooklyn. Shouldve never opted in, and if he did, then opt in and STFU until you become FA. This one foot in, one foot out business is what makes it too risky for anyone to take a chance on him until he becomes an FA.
As an owner or GM I would not be in the business of acquiring someone then convincing them why they should stay on. You find a player that wants to be there and work from that. Other than that its too risky.
Also remember Dwight was virtually pressurised to opt in which no other recent major potential FA has been made to. Teams will probably try and force Orlando's demands down with something we base this trade on the chance that Dwight will opt out.
That's what I would do. Why would I give up all that for a guy who likely will leave, particularly if I'm the Rockets. The Deron Williams situation was slightly different because they got him for more than one season, but that would've been awful if he didn't re-sign. The Nets gave up Derrick Favors, the number 3 pick that became Enes Kanter, and at least one other number one pick. If Williams left knowing that you let go a chance of two early lottery talent big men would have to sting badly.
forced him to opt in?Come on , I mean no one put a gun to his head
If I'm the Rockets I wouldn't trade Motiejunas for Howard without some sort of assurance he's re-signing, which he isn't giving. Motiejunas is a legit 7 footer with good strength and speed. Motiejunas already has a decently polished offense for his age (22). That's something that doesn't come along all the time.
It doesn't make any sense to trade so many assets AND take on bad contracts for a guy that is likely to leave your team when the season ends. Dwight is screwing the Magic with his Indecision and they have to hope the Rockets or Nets are still ok with adding him without any guarantee of his return.
At this point, I wish Howard and his agent would shut up. If you were not going to sign an extension with anyone then you should not have signed the extension last year. You would be with Brooklyn right now. Now the only way Brooklyn can get you is with help, but after all the big deals they just signed, it's not likely they can trade for him unless their trading partner loves a max deal for Brook Lopez or is interested in overpaying Gerald Wallace, Kris Humprhies or Joe Johnson. If you are going to be a free agent then just play for whoever has you under contract.
If Orlando was smart they would not have let this thing drag out and would not have played games with Dwight. They should have just traded him last year even if it was only for cap relief by throwing in Hedo and whoever else they could, but they don't know what they want to do. They are too busy overpaying people. When Jameer opted out, that was a blessing. The problem is that Orlando decided to overpay him again for 3 years. Orlando and Howard are both killing this franchise.
next season. Play the Nets in the first round and lose in 4-5 games. Then sign with the Nets the next offseason and win a NBA championship.
This is worst than "The Decision" by Lebron.
One thing I will say about LeBron is that he was unrestricted. He'd served his time in Cleveland without complaining or pouting.
yes, Lebron situation was better. Dwight and his agent are doing some of the worst P/R damage control job I have ever seen in the sport. I dont think he shouldve opted in, because he knew he didnt want to be there, but if he decided to opt-in, so be it....just play that year out. We are still at the same point when all this madness begins, and it holds up Orlando's forward progress....majorly.
Why would the Lakers be scared? If they are basically only offering Andrew Bynum (who would be a free agent as well), then what is the fear?
because the Lakers have a better chance of retaining Bynum. also, if Bynum plays like he is supposed to, the Lakers probably feel like its not worth the trouble. Bynum is the 2nd best Center in the league...replacing him with Dwight doesnt guarantee a better team or championship. The Lakers would love to have Dwight, but they are in the position where they dont have to be so thirsty to get him.
My take is that where would Dwight go? He doesn't want to go to Cleveland or Houston, Dallas may not have enough cap space next summer, and Brooklyn is way capped out. Dallas is the only place, and after their singings the past week I think they're out as well, so I do believe LA that there is very little risk in LA.
And as per my understanding, Bynum has expressed a desire to stay in LA, he just doesn't want to sign an extension because he could get traded to Orlando and be stuck there.
I think Dwight doesn't want to sign an extension because he wants to see where Chris Paul is going to go next season, Dwight bas expressed interest in playing with cp3 as he wanted to go to the clips last year. I guess this is his plan B
drama queen 12 has gotten what hes wanted all eyes on me dog i dont trade for him if im the lakers better chance bynum stays and even if bynum is leaving i dont trust what drama queen 12 would bring too the table for a year in la all this drama bs hes pullin makes think it would b easy for him too lay down and b a bytch all year and just leave and go sign wherever his drama queen azz wants
Basically, he and his agent are doing more harm than good by not just keeping their mouths shut. Dwight isnt saying he wont play for the Lakers or Brooklyn after this year, he is just saying that he wont sign an extension to do it. He wants to play out his contract. Nothing wrong with that, but the media spin makes them look like fools and look wishy-washy. Why do you have to come out and say that you wont sign an extension? Just dont say ANYTHING. Play the contract out....and be done with it.
as a lakers fan and basketball fan i am completely over this howard drama. if he isnt willing to be traded there, id like for us to move on with bynum going forward because as Kobe and Gasol get older, Bynum needs to be there to help continue the Lakers as a dominant team and if we trade him or make him feel unwelcome in LA, we might ultimately screw ourselves over. Howard needs to grow up and make a decision and get the hell out of Orlando, where he clearly has no intentions of staying.
While I'm a huge Howard fan in terms of what he does on the court, but Bynum is still developing and right now is the more complete offensive player. He also rebounds nearly as well as Howard (and the difference might be the difference between having Gasol and Anderson as your PF pair). So I don't think there is a huge upgrade between Bynum to Howard. Not nearly as big a move as bringing in Nash.
now dwight is just being a big cry baby bout the whole not trading him to where he wants to go
dwight maybe an incredible athlete but as for dwight's maturity dang he has the maturity of a 3 yr old he has no proffesionalism whatsoever if he gets traded by orlando and goes to a good team he should definitly give them the nod that he would resign again for maybe a multi year contract
Igetbucket's makes a good point could D12 look to link up with CP3? If CP3 stays with LAC then joining up with him and Griffin would surely appeal to D12. Also that trio would have move longevity than say going to the Lakers, if LAC could do a deal around Jordan to pull an S and T next summer then Orlando might be interested as the Clippers would not have cap room otherwise.
LAC could send Jordan to Orlando or even to a 3rd team who would send them a pick or two these could then be combined with a LAC pick or two to give Orlando a decent package.
To clear up an earlier post on this topic - I'll admit that D12 was not forced to opt in but he was told he would be traded and this was never done to STAT, D-Wade, Bosh or LeBron in 2010 for example.
In hindsight it may well have been better for Orlando and Brooklyn to have done the deal in March based around Brooklyn's pick they sent to Portland in the end. This and Lopez plus another pick or two would have given Orlando a nice rebuilding point and they may have had Barnes or L.illard in plae by now.