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Dump a scrub NBA amnesty clause 2.0

NBA has already stated they are putting an amnesty clause into the cba, basically they can pick one player and get pay them their contract but it won't count towards their salary cap

Boston- depends if Rashard Wallace's 7Millions dollard contract is still in play this is probably a good time to dump it, if that doesn't count then they should stay put.

Nets- Travis Outlaw- owed 28 million over the next 4 years, and played horribly last season on a bad nets team, nets get even more money to help convince dwill to stay

Knicks- Stay Put they basically have like 5 players haha

76ers- Elton Brand- old, injury prone,and 36 million over next 2 seasons, 76ers better thank god for this miracle

Raptors- They could go a few ways, they could dump jose calderon's 20 million over next two seasons, or they could get rid of Bargs(i think about 40million over 4 years). I would go with Jose, Bargs if disappointing next season(hope not) can still get decent trade value Jose on the other hand not so much

Bulls-stay put

Cavs- Baron Davis- Irving is the future and you can still keep ramon sessions, and get rid of davis' estimated 30 million dollar contact over the next 2 seasons

Pistons- RIP Hamilton- 24 mil over 2 seasons, and I think hes done in detroit

Pacers- James Posey 7 mil contract, I completely forgot he played for the pacers, i thought he retired haha

Bucks- Toss up John salmons or Corey Maggette both overpaid and have same contract 20-22 mil over 2 years.

Hawks- I know this is going to have a bad response by you guys but Joe Johnson's max contract, He is there best player, but not worth a max contract at his age its a matter of time before he starts declining and taking up unnecessary salary cap space

Bobcats- Boris Diaw not producing results, was out of shape, time to let go of his 9 million dollar contract

Heat- Mike Miller- about 24 mil over 4 years, heat can use that money to buy some quality role players the heat desperately need

Magic- Agent Zero 60 something mil. Gilbert be prepared to take a hefty paycut if you get signed at all. Magic use that money wisely and spend it on some good players instead of injured, or overated players. btw Hedo you better thank god every night that this is not you

Wizard- Easy Rashard Lewis, 23 million a year wizards don't need that contract can spend in free agents to improve their team

Dallas- Brendon Hayward- estimated 35-40 mil over the next 4 seasons, Dallas escape with even more room to defend their title

Rockets- Thabeet- they will probably keep him, but his rookie contract will be off the books if they don't i think about 4 mil each season

Griz-Stay Put

NOH- Trevor Ariza- 21 million over 3 years, avg only 11 ppg last season wont cut it, should have just stayed with the lakers

Spurs- They could stay put.... or get rid of RJ 13 million dollar a year contract... i would get pick choice 2

Nuggets- Al Harrington- making 28 million over 4 years, denver is in rebuilding mode so I think that extra money can go to better use

Minny-........Hell those it matter Khan just gonna F@CK up again haha... but darko....yeah

Blazers- unfortunatly Brandon Roy about a 80 million dollar contract, bad knees, its a sad story but the blazers were trying to convince him to retire earlier this summer, you know they will use it on him...still a great player, wish somehow he can get back where he was at.

Thunder-Stay Put...no westbrook isn't going anywhere

Jazz- Al Jefferson- jazz can get rid of a huge contract about 30 mil, and then wait til next season for okur's contract to end and they will have a true fresh start in rebuilding,also frees up room for milsap,favors, and kanter front court

GS- Andris Biedrins- no brainer GS been waiting years to get rid of him, heres there chance, 27 mil off their salary cap...interesting tosee where he ends up

LAL-.......hmmmmm many options steve blake, Luke walton.. or they stay put

Suns- will most likely buyout Carter, so they will probably use this on Josh Childress, payed 28 mil over next 4 years, and disappointed this season

Kings- Francisco Garcia not sure of exact number of his contract now but I know he signed a 5year 29 mil contract a few years ago.. he might be the most likely player dumped

Alright thats my opinion on who teams should use their amnesty clause on, if you disagree with any of them just comment who you think it shoud be or if they should just stay put


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Maggette got traded by

Maggette got traded by Milwaukee to Charlotte on draft night. They also traded Salmons BACK to Sacramento. So the more likely choice would be either Capt. Jack or Gooden IMO. LAL will probably use the amnesty on Luke(even though I'd personally prefer Blake or even Artest).

BTW, I don't think that it's out of the realm of possibilities that ATL buys out Joe Johnson given his age and pay, but i think Marvin Williams or Josh Smith are more realistic.

BTW, I'm really liking LAL's chances at a decent player thanks to the amnesty. Roy, Arenas, or Baron could all be good in a reduced role playing beside of Kobe,Gasol,Odom, and Bynum.

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Maggette plays for the

Maggette plays for the Bobcats now, and Salmons for the Kings. Also, I don't think anybody would disagree with you about nullifying Joe Johnson's contract. Also, Darko is good value for what he does, and Minny doesn't really have a problem with overpaid players. Oh and finally, Westbrook doesn't have an issue with being overpaid, he's still on his rookie contract.

That came out pretty negative in hindsight, but the rest of the list is pretty solid.

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I dont really agree with the

I dont really agree with the Amensty clause. For example if the Blazers use it on Roy. They will pay him the rest of his contract and then they have to pay another guy to be the backup sg to Matthews. So thats about 10 million MORE they have to spend instead of just keeping him since they have to pay him anyway

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Roy is owed over $15 million

Roy is owed over $15 million next year and over $68 million for the remaining four years on his contract. His career is done. You can't be a basketball player without cushioning in your knees. Why let his salary hurt the salary cap? OF COURSE the Blazers should use the Amnesty Clause on him IF they're allowed to. It makes perfect sense.

And they wouldn't necesarily HAVE to sign a backup shooting guard. They didn't last season when Roy missed all of those games. Batum is clearly capable of backing up both the two and the three. He's a better defender than Roy anyway, plus he'll have no problem playing off of Aldridge or Felton. And then there's Williams, who's still in his rookie deal, who'll play the shooting guard as well.

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And the Pacers aren't going to use the Amnesty Clause to waive Posey lol. That'd be like using a bazooka to kill an ant. His deal is expiring this season. I'd rather put him in a trade with a couple of other pieces and try to bring us back a legit starting power forward.

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Bulls to stay put?

They need to dump Boozer! He plays no defense, had a mediocre scoring year, is injury prone, and he loves to gloat for some reason. Dump him and get David West! His mid-range game is the best at this position (besides Dirk, of course).

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I totally agree with that.

I totally agree with that. Boozer was a mistake from the beginning he is over paid injury prone and doesnt play any defense at all.

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Tyrober, I see what you are saying. But, these guys are incredibly rich, and it will not count against the salary cap. Plus, Paul Allen is the richest owner in the league, so I am not exactly worrying about his finances. Personally, I am fine with the amnesty clause and I feel like teams who do not feel the need to use it will probably get some kind of kick back or save money in the process. Also, they more than likely might be the beneficiaries of signing someone released from a long term contract to a pretty decent deal. The owners want these contracts to be shorter term, and I think this would be part of that coming to fruition with more than likely releasing some bad, long term contracts.

I like the idea Scotto, here would be my choices for who to use the "Allan Houston clause" on:

Atlanta Hawks: I have a feeling that many of these contracts will get rolled back, so I am sure Joe Johnson's will as well and become slightly more reasonable. It is true, Joe is not worth what he is being paid, but releasing him for nothing would more than likely just set this team even further back. To release him would also probably mean, well, he would not be signing back with Atlanta. I guess this is where the old system put teams in a bind. While a hard cap might prevent teams from signing these long term deals, it would more than likely just mean that Atlanta would give up their best player scot free. I guess that is why I believe the Hawks would probably lean towards releasing Marvin Williams. His contract is much more reasonable, but he does have that 2013-14 player option. I feel they keep Joe, maybe even hope to get something in a trade for him to sustain atleast middle of the pack play-off ability, and dump Marvin.

Boston Celtics: Rasheed was bought out, so they really have no one to use it on right now. Unless they wanted to use it on Paul Pierce, who has three years left on his deal, but I know they would not do that to him. So, I have a feeling they would stay put and either be given some salary cap or trade exception incentive to do so.

Charlotte Bobcats: I see this as a two horse race between DeSagana Diop and Tyrus Thomas. Diop has a player option in 2012-13 for 7.5 million, but Tyrus Thomas still has a number of years being paid definitely more than he is worth. While he is not making double digit money, he is close. I know he is still a young player, but I think it has been established that he is little more than a role player with an incredibly limited offensive game. I would go with the longer term deal in Charlotte's plan of rebuilding, and that is Thomas. The reason I do not even consider Diaw is because he is in the last year of his deal, which either means he could be a trade chip for a team looking to dump cap space, or a guy who they can just let go at the end of the year to obtain cap space.

Chicago Bulls: Many might want to dump Carlos Boozer, but I do not know what good that does the Bulls, as he would again probably just go to the next highest bidder. I am sure there would be some rule in place for teams not being able to just re-sign guys they have let go, I feel that was part of the last amnesty clause as well. I know that teams have traded players who have been released and re-signed to their original teams, but that would not be the case here. So, I think the Bulls bite the bullet and keep their team intact. It might be tough to trade Boozer's deal, but I truly doubt they would be able to sign anyone as a valid replacement as they do not have the cap space, even with Boozer off of the books.

Cleveland Cavaliers: Baron Davis. Really easy one. He has that player option he would definitely pick up and it put them in a much better spot come summer of 2012.

Dallas Mavericks: Agree on Brendan Haywood. They are going to re-sign Chandler, and while the duo gave them incredible length, it was clear that Chandler was the money player. Marion still has a few years left, and he could be a possibility, but he played such a crucial role. I guess if they feel Butler is up to it, they may try to do something regarding Marion, but Haywood's deal is more money, more long term and seemingly at less of a role than Marion plays.

Denver Nuggets: If the lockout is solved, this team might be screwed come next year. I know that CBA contracts are guaranteed and have no escape clause, plus I have heard that if a player breaks their contract, than their team forfeits every game. This seems like a harsh and ridiculous rule, but Kenyon Martin, JR Smith and Wilson Chandler all must be kind of hoping their is no NBA season, otherwise, they are probably staying in China. Nonetheless, the Nuggets will have a lot of cap space, and even more if they dump the 4 remaining years of Al Harrington's remaining deal. They will have money to sign Nene and probably fill a couple of the spots of their missing players.

Detroit Pistons: They have a few bad deals, but I think that Richard Hamilton wins out. They have been trying to unload him for a while, and it just does not seem to be working. He only has two years left, but I think they would be glad to take a step towards rebuilding with a younger base. Ben Gordon and Charlie Villaneuva would be possibilities, as they both were pretty bad deals as well, with an extra year and player option. I could honestly see them using it on Charlie V, but Hamilton is a safe bet to finally end his tenure with the Pistons if the clause is put into place.

Golden State Warriors: I agree with Andris Biedrins, though I think David Lee makes far to much money for much to long a period of time. Still, he could probably be dealt somewhere, whereas Andris has been injury prone and not lived up to his 9 mil per year contract.

Houston Rockets: Do not know why people negged Scotto, because he had the right idea for the most part. Hasheem Thabeet seems like a very logical contract to drop. Yes, he has only played two years, but you have seen no signs of him being worth near what even his rookie contract gives him. Just cut your losses and try to sign a Center in free agency.

Indiana Pacers: James Posey would be the best choice. Though, I might just keep him as a role player than let him walk at the end of the year. They already have a ton of cap room as is, and James could play a role for one year, or even be used as a trade chip for some team that is willing to give up some young talent for a nice role player. This guy has not played incredibly well the past couple years, but he was crucial to the championship runs of the Heat and Celtics.

LA Clippers: Guess this was the team Scotto missed. It is between Mo Williams and Ryan Gomes. If they are really serious about free agency in summer 2012, I think they might have to let go of Mo Williams. He makes 8.5 million per year, will more than likely take his player option for 2012-13 and could save a lot of money to possibly free up some cap space to sign a banner FA. Mo could play a nice role, but I am sure some Clippers fans might prefer having Eric Bledsoe play more minutes and maybe signing a decent back-up for less than half of what Mo makes.

LA Lakers: Think that it is probably Luke Walton. He barely played at all last year, making him much easier to get rid of than Steve Blake, who has a much more reasonable salary for his role.

Memphis Grizzlies: They have a cheap owner, so it must kill him to be in this spot with a clause like this. While I honestly believe that most likely person they would use it on would be OJ Mayo, I think they do in fact stay put. Rudy Gay's contract is huge, but I think letting him go for nothing would be a massive mistake as far as this team looking to go further in the play-offs.

Miami Heat: Mike Miller had a tough year last season, but I think injuries killed him. Nonetheless, they are not going to let him go unless they absolutely are forced to. They are not going to find a better role player for less money, so this team stays the course and hopes for better luck next year (hopefully, if there is a next season).

Milwaukee Bucks: The ultimate hope of this team is to have obtained some eucalyptus leaves from the bigger, fatter Koala bear owners. Once they hopefully have, they tell Beno Udrih to hit the road. 7.8 million dollar player option in 2012-13? No thanks.

Minnesota Timberwolves: Their are no contracts that are too awful, even Darko for that matter. He is making pretty average bucks, and while he may be a below average starter, he is a decent role player. I say they probably get rid of Brad Miller's last two years, or even stay put as they are not in a horrible cap situation. More of a horrible team situation.

New Jersey Nets: Travis Outlaw seems to be a contract they wish they could take back. I was a big Travis fan on Portland, though I always wanted him to maybe go to a team that could use him more. It appears that team does not exist, as Travis has been incredibly underwhelming as a Clipper and Net. Portland does not need him back, but I am sure some team could use him for a more reasonable fee that 7 million per year over 4 more years.

New Orleans Hornets: Trevor Ariza is probably the best call. Believe me, I think Emeka Okafor has a more ridiculous deal over a similar time frame, but this team needs all of the front court help it can get at the 4/5. Chris Paul is gone anyway come 2012, so might as well destroy and rebuild. Either Trevor or Emeka would be a good start to doing that, but in terms of maybe at least feigning the interest of remaining competitive, Ariza would be the better drop.

New York Knicks: I would say Renaldo Balkman if anyone, but I think they do indeed stay put.

Okalahoma City Thunder: I think if they cut anyone, it might be Thabo Sefolosha, but his deal is incredibly reasonable. I would think they do indeed stay put.

Orlando Magic: Gilbert Arenas. I know they "still think he can be a star", but teams will say lots of things when they are locked into a contract that insane.

Philadelphia 76ers: Elton Brand is probably the logical choice. I also think Andres Nocioni is a possibility, though they just probably choose not to re-new his team option. Losing Elton would suck in a way, I see Thad Young as more of a SF than PF, but it actually puts them in decent cap position for the 2012 FA drive. They would take a step back, but it could lead to a big step forward.

Phoenix Suns: Vince has a team option, so they just will not re-new it. They were in the process of a buy out regardless. However, Josh Childress' play last year definitely makes him a sweet target to get off of the books. I am not sure that they want to see how things go with him playing any further, but I think they would be glad to look in other places.

Portland Trail Blazers: This is the worst one yet, but one would have to think it would be Brandon Roy. I do not know how you could handle this without looking like the worst people in the world, but I am guessing Paul Allen does not really care what a majority of people think about him anyway. Brandon will be a constant obstacle unless they find a way to give him cartilage in his knee so as not to make it bone on bone. The guy will be hurt constantly and has lost a lot of his explosiveness. Ultimately, his contract will be bought out one way or the other, and while this has to make one sick, this might be the best way to do it.

Sacramento Kings: While John Salmons' contract goes down over time, and he is a nice scorer at the 2/3, I think his contract being potentially 4 years long makes him the choice. The Kings are in a decent cap situation as is, but Salmons could give them even more freedom. They might be a worse team, but they are still in the rebuilding process and will more than likely be alright with another season of tanking for lotto position.

San Antonio Spurs: Richard Jefferson. Done. Move on, sign someone on the cheap and hope that Kawhi Leonard fits in. Either way, they have some interesting options on the wing, RJ just does not seem worth 8 figs.

Toronto Raptors: Someone yesterday was saying that they thought it would definitely be Calderon, and while that is of course intriguing, I pick Linas Kleiza. Kleiza makes less money, but he has that pesky extra year player option, and I feel he is pretty much untradeable. It is tough to trade Jose's deal, and he has not been worth the money, but he is one year away from that last year, and when that happens, players become very tradeable. I think the Raps can put up with one year of Jose, whereas any opportunity to dump Kleiza seems like a winner.

Utah Jazz: They did basically give up next to nothing for Jefferson, so I guess letting him go would not be the end of the world. Still, I have a feeling they would stay put. Al could be a possible trade chip, and having that extra year of his contract is not the end of the world. If it would be anyone, it would be Al, but I think the Jazz might be just as well off staying put.

Washington Wizards: "The Allan Houston rule" I do not even believe was used on Allan Houston. Still, I think this new one would be called "the Rashard Lewis rule" and should be used on him accordingly.

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Lakers would be dumb not to

Lakers would be dumb not to use this on Metta World Peace

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Really?

I mean, I know that Ron had an awful year, but do you really want Matt Barnes and Luke Walton at 3? The fact is, Metta World Peace is still a powerful 3 man who can make some noise on defense. I do not know what good it would do the Lakers to drop him instead of Walton, whereas with Luke you could at least maybe have a roster spot for either a young player or more of a contributor. I still feel like Ron-Ron (it feels so weird calling him Metta) can play a nice role on a team, and I do not think his contract is outrageous. Unless the salary cap plays a huge role in the Lakers having to drop him, I think it would make them a straight up worse team if they dropped him. He played better in the play-offs than he did in the regular season, and he was actually really useful in their run to the 2010 finals. Plus, he is the kind of guy who would honestly give up his player option, which would kick in next year, if he were unhappy or maybe wanted to be somewhere else. I say drop Walton and let the dice roll on Metta World Peace, who at the very least plays hard and solid defense on the wing.

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I should have done more

I should have done more research on this topic, I was staring at a website, that had each teams roster along with salary, so I didn't realize the roster was outdated(it said 2011-2012 but I should have known better)

btw some further explantion-the westbrook thing was a joke, not to be taken seriously due to the neg comments about him, even if he wasn't on a rookie contract his trade value would be better off then just getting his contract off the book

Thanks MikeyV for fixing my mistakes, and providing some further insight, I've heard some people call this amnesty the "The Curry Cure" in honor of our great friend Eddy Curry

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Actually Mikeyv, WizKid hit

Actually Mikeyv, WizKid hit the nail on the head in regards to Metta World Peace. He is still a good defender, but his ballhandling has become abismal, he has no lift causing him to be a horrid inside scorer(even break away layups), and STILL needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He simply is NOT a good fit beside of the KGB (Kobe, Gasol, Bynum) and Odom. His D is still very good on the likes of Pierce and Melo, but given how many good players are going to be amnesty cut or already free agents. I'd actually be willing to play Barnes and Ebanks as my main SF's if it meant LAL getting out of World Peace's contract. Just too long and his best days are behind him, and were his first year in LAL as well.

LAL's offense just doesn't run efficient enough with Artest on the floor. And I know that normally D beats out O, but Metta's TEAM D just isn't good enough. He constantly gives up the TEAM D so that he can try and shut his man down. Again, the team runs FAR more efficiently when they can get out on the break and get easy points. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ariza in purple and gold again if he were in fact cut by NOH simply for his transition points and ability to cause turnovers.

Walton seems like the obvious choice for the "Rashard Leiws rule", but he only has this year and next left on his deal. Play out the one year and hope his ending contract can be of some use in getting someone back next year in return, whereas either Blake and Metta both have deals far too long. Hell, even Blake's deal is too high a price tag given that he became a HORRID player last year having to play off of the others not being allowed to run P&R. Though I do think he'll have a bounce back year thanks to the P&R friendly offense Mike Brown plans to run.

My personal choice would go to one of those guys though personally. +1 WizKid

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artest only has 1 year longer

artest only has 1 year longer then walton and they both make about the same annually. Ron is a solid contributor while luke is no longer healthy enough to even be in the nba.

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He may only have one year

He may only have one year longer, but that one year could be the difference make in allowing LAL to pick up another player. Do you really think that Artest is going to be playing aat a good level in 3 years with the way his game has fell off the past 2?I'd rather know that as Gasol and Kobe age, there will be money available to pay a youthful player that has the legs to compenaste for Kobe/Pau as they age. Ron's D was severely average last year. He was terrible at closing out on shooters because he's gotten slow and heavy legged, and can no longer guard players outside of the 3 and some 4's. Not to mention Quicker 3's have began to burn him consistently now. Just because a guy can produce a little, doesn't mean he's worth keeping another year a 7.7 mil in his final year where he will more than likely be an average defender against most, unable to score and won't be a good fit at all. Doesn't help his cause when he's openly admitting that Mike Brown will probably bring him off the bench.

Face it, LAL was at their best defenbsively when they were able to play more zone and get out on the break. It's why Ariza was suxh a perfect fit and why Barnes ended up stealing quite a bit of Artest's minutes this past season until he got his leg injury. Also why Ebanks seems to be such a good fit. Especially if his jumper has developed which based on video ffrom the summer it seems to have.

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i agree with most of that,

i agree with most of that, but for all the negs you give artest at least he plays. Walton is litteraly just sitting there taking up a roster spot. Lets not get too carried away with how much ron has fallen off. He was the best player on the court in game 7 vs boston. Ill eat 1 extra year of salary if it means keep a ctributor vs someone who wont see the court.

Plus keep in mind that even with the amnesty clause, the salary is still held against the lakers salary cap. They can not just go out and spend that money. Ron wil still be listed as making 7 mill 3 years from now and it will still count against the cap. The lakers just won have to pay any luxury tax on his 7 mill. It doesnt actually add any spce for bringing in new players or create salary cap space to the best of my knowledge.

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"Amnesty"

LLPerez, I agree with you on Artest, but the "Amnesty Clause" does indeed mean that it would NOT be held against ones salary cap. Otherwise, it would not be amnesty. While I think iguapops is pretty wrong in his assumption that cutting Artest over Walton gives the Lakers a better chance of signing anybody, as they would be in the same situation. Still, if you let a player go and are given amnesty, it means you are given a free player to cut and not be held against the salary cap. That is the reason this clause would exist, otherwise there would be no real point in cutting these players. You still have to pay them, but you receive "amnesty" from the player counting against your cap.

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i know thats not the way it

i know thats not the way it was done last time mikeyv. The amnesty is that you dont have to pay the luxury tax associated with the player. Dallas cut michael finley last time and his 20 mill per was counted still counted every year against the team, the mavs just didnt have to pay the tax on that 20 mill. Maybe they changed or intend on changing it this time. Either way it wont help the lakers sign anyone new becasue even if the entire salary does not go against the cap, the lakers are way more then 7 mill over the cap. Only way they are signing free agents is through the mid level exception and bi anual exception.

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actually i just looked it up

actually i just looked it up and found this article according to the oregonian:

“Two NBA sources told me Tuesday that they believe there’s consensus among owners on a few important lockout issues. One of those issues being an amnesty clause that would give NBA teams the ability to release one player, pay his salary, take no luxury tax liability, and also, not have that player count against the season salary cap. This is different than the last round of amnesty, which didn’t give the cap relief. And if true, it would likely allow Portland to strongly consider releasing three-time All-Star Brandon Roy, creating an additional $15 million in cap relief next season. Which is only to say, the Blazers need a general manager in the chair now, as this develops, if they’re going to fully maximize the advantages of making such a powerful play.”

so i stand corrected. It states the previous amnestly clause did not take the players salary off the teams salary cap but that this time it would. I was thinking it would be the same as last time.

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It looks like while im

It looks like while im getting negs im getting points on this thread, I appreciate the few people who gave me feedback,while im still questioning what other readers think about it haha I guess this is just neutral

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That's the only reason I was

That's the only reason I was saying Artest, because he Blake and Gasol/Kobe are only one's signed in Ron's final year. That's the only reason.

But I do feel Ron fell off quite a bit since that game 7. It's really just a thought for the future to cut Ron. Personally I'd like to keep him and bring him off the bench to lockdown behind a guy like Ariza or even Kobe if LAL found a good 2 guard who could start.

Doesn't really matter because LAL will ultimately cut Luke IMO.

BTW, Mikeyv, the salary does in fact matter for the one year when Ron will be making almost 8 million more that year as the THIRD highest paid Laker. You have to actually be a fan of LAL to fully take in what I'm trying to say. Not to mention, Ron is one of Phil's guys, and Jim Buss is trying to slowly get PJ's guys out and bring his in. It's a show of power. I personally am one of the few people who actually back Jim Buss, as I respect his value of athletes and D over offense first triangle guys.

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Thanks to Mikey V for

Thanks to Mikey V for pointing out that Scott had mentioned the amnesty before I floated the idea in a later post. All the names mentioned are the consensus ones for all teams and if they did not count against the caps going forward then teams under luxury tax level would benefit from it.

Also it would create a nice market in decent FA's if the likes of Artest, Brand, Arenas and even Jefferson were waived. You'd have some very good players potentially signing for a lot less given they will have recieved a buy out or still have a team paying their salary.

I'd assume that something would be put in place to stop a player being brought out and then returming to the same team for next to nothing. Imagine if say Kobe, D-Wade, Melo, Johnson etc were all paid off and returned to the same team for something below MLE you'd potentially have teams having major cap space in some cases.

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IF I'm the Bulls, I dump

IF I'm the Bulls, I dump Boozer and go after Eric Gordon next summer.

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Atlanta Hawks: Marvin

Atlanta Hawks: Marvin Williams

Boston Celtics: Stay put

Charlotte Bobcats: Diop.

Chicago Bulls: Kyle Korver. No way they dump boozer this early, right?

Cleveland Cavaliers: Anderson Varejao. Baron Davis is the easy answer but Varejao has that long contract that will kill them. Baron accepts his option, sure, but its only 2 years and they wont be good in those years anyway.

Dallas Mavericks: This is a tough one. Haywood or Marion. I think Haywood is the guy tho. Marion only has 3 years at a cheaper price and Butler is coming off knee surgery. Haywood is out.

Denver Nuggets: Has to be Al Harrington.

Detroit Pistons: Richard Hamilton. Atleast the other bad contract players play.

Golden State Warriors: I would go with David Lee. He is a numbers guy. Biedrins is still a young center. With less years at less money, it would be easy for me to keep him and let Lee go.

Houston Rockets: I doubt they woukl do it but I would let Scola go. It gets our younger guys on the court and we get more athletic up front. Good player but on the wrong team.

Indiana Pacers: Dahntay Jones. Posey has only 1 year left and this team isnt winning a championship soon. Let Jones go and save about 3 mil the next year.

LA Clippers: Ryan Gomes. Eric Bledsoe isnt ready and Aminu is a solid hustle 3 man.

LA Lakers- Metta World Peace- Dude has 3 years left and is simply not the player he once was.

Memphis Grizzlies: I would stay put here.

Miami Heat: I would dump Joel Anthony. Atleast with Mike Miller on the court, you have to guard him. I think Anthony takes away from the offense. HE doesnt have to be guarded and really isnt a threat to catch and finish. His defense is solid but he is still undersized and didnt make a difference against Dirk.

Milwaukee Bucks: Beno Udrih. No explanation needed.

Minnesota Timberwolves: Nikola Pekovic. Some people think he has game but I would rather keep B Miller as a veteran in my locker room.

New Jersey Nets: Travis Outlaw. Too expensive for his skillset. Damian James can become a similar player.

New Orleans Hornets: Stay put, atleast try to have a solid season and keep Chris Paul. But the league owns them so Emeka might be the choice.

New York Knicks: Balkman. He doesnt play so may as well save the money.

Okalahoma City Thunder: BJ Mullens, they give up on him with Perkins signed long term and Aldrich as a backup.

Orlando Magic: Chris Duhon and pray Gilbert has a great season and D Howard stays.

Philadelphia 76ers: Elton Brand. The Sixers catch a huge break and release their biggest albatross.

Phoenix Suns: Josh Childress. He just seemed lost on the court last year after his stint overseas. Just cut him and move forward. This would be the first move of many the Suns would need to make to become a contender again.

Portland Trail Blazers: Brandon Roy. It pains me to say it but if Portland wants to be relevant in the near future, he has to go.

Sacramento Kings: Francisco Garcia. John Salmons can contribute on this team. Garcia will be playing sparingly. I would go with Gracia.

San Antonio Spurs: Richard Jefferson. Kawhi Leonard is in town now and the RJ experiment failed.

Toronto Raptors: Amir Johnson. I know they just signed him but Ed Davis is nice and with Jonas coming, I dont see paying Johnson that much to be a bench player.

Utah Jazz: Raja Bell. Its not much but take what you can get. Play Burks and Hayward.

Washington Wizards: "The Allan Houston rule" I do not even believe was used on Allan Houston. Still, I think this new one would be called "the Rashard Lewis rule" and should be used on him accordingly. I could not have said it better. And the exception was used on jerome Williams not Allan Houston. lol

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Not sure why everyone is

Not sure why everyone is figuring SAS to dump RJ. They literally JUST extended him. They have no desire to let him go. They have transitioned into a fast paced scoring team. That just so happens to play to RJ's strength's. Not to mention he was actually one of the top 3 point shooters in the L this past year. I mean, it's possible they got instant buyers remorse, but I wouldn't believe it until I see it.

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The RJ experience has been a

The RJ experience has been a bust...

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SAS must not have gotten the

SAS must not have gotten the memo, thus the reason they gave him the 10 a year over 4. I agree he's barely an MLE player, but his shooting percentages from deep and his athletic D is what they pay him for I suppose. FAct is, he just isn't that good without a pass first PG like Kidd.

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Anyone think it's too

Anyone think it's too far-fetched to think Memphis uses it on Conley? I know they JUST re-signed him, & they're coming off a great season with a solid core and lots of room to grow. But is he a PG you're comfortable giving $9 mil a year to over the next 5 yrs? Especially when they just paid Gay & Randolph, have to pay Gasol a good amount this offseason and have a decision to make a decision on Mayo next summer. They could sign one of the veteran casualties of the amnesty clause(Baron) to a 1 yr deal, and with next year being a solid PG draft...they could maybe get their hands on a Kabongo, Turner, or Marshall and not really lose a beat.

Just an idea to think about...as they're gonna have a lot of money tied into their starting 5 for the next 4+ years.

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I sicerelky doubt they let

I sicerelky doubt they let Conley go. From what I've read, they're quite high on him and expect even more production next year and throughout his 4 years remaining. The kid is only going to get better IMO. No reason to amnesty him.

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The RJ experience never

The RJ experience never failed...SPURS were the best team last year in the Western Conference. Sure the overpaid for him, but he was not detrimental to the teams success. Last year he actually made vast improvements to help San Antonio. Its one thing to say they overpaid for him, its another to say s presence was a failure.

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@iguapops420 and OhCanada-

RJ wasn't worth the four years and almost $39 million they gave him. RJ opted out of $15 million (after the worst season since his rookie year) and due to that, R.C. Buford rewarded him with a long term deal. I mean, Jefferson opting out of that deal save the Spurs big time luxury tax money. I wouldn't be surprised if the deal was pre-arranged... I mean, what 30 year old on the decline and after his worst season since his rookie year, opts out of $15 million?

RJ played better last season, but STILL isn't worth that contract. He shot a lot better from three, but isn't the athlete he once was. He's north of 30. Not rebounding. Not a great defender. He's not the player the Spurs thought they were getting. I don't know ONE Spurs fan who was happy with that extention and that's one of the first times I've heard anybody question R.C. Buford.

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SPURS were the best team last

SPURS were the best team last year in the Western Conference

Yea... And they lost in the first round to an 8th seed. RJ's stats? 6.5 points, 4.2 rebounds, 0.8 assists, 0.5 steals and 0.5 blocks... .38 FG% and .35% 3-PT. The second post season in a row he stunk it up in the playoffs... He hasn't performed this bad in the playoffs since his rookie season. He's clearly on the decline and not the same player.

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If I'm Chicago, I use it on

If I'm Chicago, I use it on Boozer and go after Dwight. I know it's crazy, but Noah at PF, Dwight at C, NO ONE is coming into that paint. Plus you got Brewer and Bogans and Deng's D on the perimeter, and of course their Star, DRose. I think that IF the new cap system puts them in a chance to get Dwight, than they gotta go all out on him.

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RJ, with the exception of the

RJ, with the exception of the one seaosn with the bucks, has declined in play every year since leaving new jersey. He needs a pg to set him up in order to flourish(as Jkidd did) RJ wasn't worth the contract he was given and as IndianaBasketball said is on the decline. They have leonard now so he's more expendable.

@aamir543 the problem with that is there is no guarantee that d12 would sign with the bulls(remember all the Lebron hype), also Noah and Dwight wouldn't be unstoppable because noah is extremely injury prone(played only 42 games last year). They would be a better team with dwight, but they also would need a SG(thier main weakness). That is the only reason i didn't put boozer on my list

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I like how you guys keep

I like how you guys keep saying oh well they got Kleonard now so blah blah blah. WTF has he proven to be able to do? Can't shoot, can't dribble, and may not even see his crazy rebounding translate that quickly either. IMO, SAS isn't exactly so over the hill that they need to rely on a rookie 3 who can't shoot. No spacing whatsoever. Leonard,Blair and Parker in the same starting line? Yeah, right, that'll work. Not to mention they have big plans for Tiago this upcoming season. Just doesn't sound logical to me.

You saw I claerly said RJ wasn't much more than an MLE player now, but to say that the Rj expirement failed, is unfair and absurd. So Metta World Peace's 8 Million is OK because he has a history of lockdownD but has become a slightly above average defender and TERRIBLE offesive player, but RJ's average D and at least ability to shoot the long ball isn't worth overpay.

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when i say they have leonard,

when i say they have leonard, it means they a replacement, now does that mean he is going to come in and do what RJ can't now not persay but at the same time SA traded george hill( a great young piece for the future) in order to get him, so They must have saw something special in him in order to move up. the amnesty is about getting away with mistakes(maybe SA wanted to give RJ one last shot, and they had to sign him long term, well now they can fix it as he may not fit into their future plans now)

As for Metta World Peace, Ron Artest whatever you want to call him, In my list i didn't mention at all, he is a great defender, did he lose a step yeah but everyone is prone to an off year. Lakers should still keep him.

As for who deserves to be overpaid no one deserves to be overpaid, thats the reason there is a lockout is in the first place and why we're here arguing about which players contract should be voided(salary cap wise) instead of talking about where FA signed, how rookie performed in the summer league, who we think has improved, and excited about watching future preseason games.

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I agree to the fullest that

I agree to the fullest that RJ is overpaid as is Metta whatever the hell his name is and about 75-80% of L. Just dont think the RJ experiment wasa complete bust. Just not 9mil a year good.

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Look at what RJ has done in

Look at what RJ has done in the playoffs the last two seasons with the Spurs... IF that's not a bust, what is?

I mean, when Timmy, Manu and Parker needed RJ, he was absent... I couldn't even tell he was on the floor vs Memphis.

The Spurs thought they were getting the RJ from his last season with the Nets and first season with the Bucks, but they ended up getting this bum...

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Well, by your logic, Tim

Well, by your logic, Tim Duncan has become a bust. Or perhaps he's overpaid now too, because had I not witnessed Z-Bo eating him alive I'd have had no idea he was on the court either.

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We all know Timmy is 35 and

We all know Timmy is 35 and on his last legs... He did nearly put up 13 points, 11 boards, 3 dimes and 3 blocks vs Memphis though. Z-Bo killed everybody he faced. Neither Perkins nor Ibaka could handle him either.

An aging Timmy is the reason RJ was brought in... To help him. RJ hasn't done that the last two postseasons. He's been a BIG disappointment.

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