Duke's Achilles heel every year

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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 5:15pm #47692

IknoBall12
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Disappointed duke fan here and it’s seems to be the same thing year after year. Why is it we can never guard the quick point guards or elite level 2 guards? It’s starting to become annoying because year after year we get put out the tournament by a team because of our inability to defend the perimeter players. From Greg Paulus to Seth curry it just doesn’t end. I’m starting to wonder why is it always the same old same old. I thought Quinn would be able to contain Russ smith and maybe sheed could guard siva but things just didnt work out. Plumlee and Kelly also disappointed me. They were truly exposed for their lack of lateral quickness. Like i said every year it’s the same thing. Something has to change. Hopefully next year our really athletic roster will change things……
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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 5:31pm #759262

samosas
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because you tend to have four year guards and people who stay in college for four years don’t have elite athleticism, or else they would have went to the NBA. duke doesn’t have a good track record for producing successful pros in the league. the elite athlete gets that 50/50 play in crunch time about 75% of the time vs. an OK athlete (see four year duke guards).
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- Posted on: Tue, 04/02/2013 - 5:04pm #759748
  
  Blizz78
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  Plumlee could’ve went pro as a freshman, to say he isn’t an elite athlete is just crazy. watch his stock rise just like his brothers did when he has a 40 inch vert at the combine. Sulaimon would be a 1st rounder if he went this year. Think Cook could be 2 in fact I think Quinn will be the best pro off this team. Next year he will be the man when he doesn’t have to defer to the seniors. This team just lacked toughness, Lville went on a run they gave up it wasn’t the first time I seen it happen this year.
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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 5:49pm #759265

Memphis Madness
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They don’t get the elite point guards. Kyrie Iving was elite, as was Jason Williams but that is about it.
They are also losing top recruits to Coach Cal, plus the other good recruiters/ coaches. Duke doesn’t get many loaded classes.
It also seems like Duke can’t beat a team better than them. They lack an extra gear or something.
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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 5:51pm #759266

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Not to go all racial on you guys (Bracing myself for european baller to unleash on me) but the fact is, this was somewhat true when Greg Paulus and JJ Redick couldn’t guard people. But the fact is, with Cook, Thornton, and Suliamon, there is really no excuse for why Duke can’t guard people out there. I totally agree that killed them today, but its not a valid excuse based on that personnel. I doubt many other backcourts of good teams would be that much better defensively to be honest. And lets also remember that Duke won the title in 2010, had a really good team in 2011 that’s chemistry was off because of the injury to Irving, and lost to Arizona in a game they shot the lights out. Last year, their team clearly wasn’t as talented as usual, and this year, well, theres really no shame in the run they had. They lacked a true star of the team. It was the revolving Plumlee, Curry, and sometimes Kelly door that just wasn’t quite as good as some of the other team’s best players. Even Curry, who was having a great tournament showed today that he just can’t always get going if he can’t get his 3s off. I just think next year, with Parker and Hood they have a better chance of having NBA level players who can take games over, not specialty players like they had this year.
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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 5:53pm #759267

Mkadoza
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You mean like 3 years ago, when they won the national championship with Scheyer and Nolan Smith. You know what Duke fans problem is? They think there’s a problem with Duke if they don’t win one in ever say, five years. Year after year, you get knocked out of the tournament… because you have really good teams! Sometimes they’re the best in the country. Most of the time they’re top 5. They have the winningest coach of all time. What else can you really ask for? Especially in a win or go home, 6 round tournament?
Congratulations to Duke for having a great year. Its too bad you got seeded with the real #1 team in the country. I feel like if they were in the brake with say Gonzaga, things may have been different.
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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 5:59pm #759269

Ghost01
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What really doesn’t make sense, is why the NCAA changed the way they seed. Duke shouldn’t have been in the same bracket as Louisville, they weren’t the 8th best team in the country, they were 5th or 6th. I don’t get why they changed that just to help gear it more so the higher seeds play close to home, regardless. And even with that, Cal was a 12 and basically played UNLV and Cuse at home.
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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 6:24pm #759275

i’m jus so offended
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Perfectly said @mkadazoa.
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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 6:45pm #759278

PabloFiasco
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I’ve been a Duke faithful since I was 8yrs old and I think the biggest problem with Duke every year is the lack of depth and lately the fact that our guards don’t aggressively drive the lane as often as most guards around the country
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/01/2013 - 5:30am #759324
  
  ph90702
  How do you not have depth at Duke?
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  - Posted on: Mon, 04/01/2013 - 5:19pm #759500
    
    PabloFiasco
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    You obviously don’t watch the games or seen the roster
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Posted on: Sun, 03/31/2013 - 7:09pm #759280

BlueRivers25
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He doesnt adjust during the games against the pick and roll very well. Duke should have packed it in and let Louieville shoot from outside. Instead, K plays the pick and roll by using Mason to try to force the ball handler wide. Which doesnt work, when you are playing against ultra quick PGs.
See K against UConn and Khalid Alimin in 99, Arizona and Momo Jones in 2011. There are countless other times that K refuses to pack in the defense and gets burned by PGs in tournament time.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/01/2013 - 5:06am #759322

Scotty5000
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Yup, dook getting out atheleted, not surprising at all. And I must say I LOVE IT!
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Posted on: Mon, 04/01/2013 - 5:31am #759326

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From a UNC fan, it just seems like Duke lives and dies by 3. This year they finally had a really good post player in Plumlee, however whenever he would go up against a quality big man he would struggle.
I don’t think PG play is the problem this year. Quinn Cook is very solid and will be an All-ACC player next season.
I think if Hairston or MP3 step up they would be the favorite to win it all next season. I like them better than UK due to experience. Not many teams can put the talent of Cook, Sulaimon, Hood, Parker, and Hairston out on the floor. (Hairston is obviously the big question mark). That is not a live by 3 die by 3 team. But Hairston needs to step up and get out of scrub mode.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/01/2013 - 5:50pm #759507
  
  Ghost01
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  They really will be loaded next year yet with a huge question mark at center. Interesting to see what direction coach k goes with it..
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  - Posted on: Tue, 04/02/2013 - 1:23am #759552
    
    alinge
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    Could Amile Jefferson play center otherwise it looks like it will be Marshall Plumlee. Also is Andre Dawkins playing next year because that would give them great depth at guard.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/01/2013 - 6:18am #759338

IknoBall12
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Agree with many. And yes we do have a stereotype for having basically white perimeter players who can’t guard but that excuse can’t be used anymore because of the players we had this year. I think it’s simply an aggressiveness issue and answering the challenge. Also I was nervous about this years team coming in because of the fact that we had no real star power like years before.
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