[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Minnesota, Philadelphia, New York, Miami, they did well.

Boston, maybe Dallas, who else didn’t do well.  Dallas drafted Chandler Parson’s backup, Boston drafted small guards when their roster is mostly small guards anyway.

 

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

I’m ok with the Celtics pick because everyone they wanted didn’t drop to them. I know they tried to move up, but just couldn’t. Terry does have the talent to be a starting PG in the league, and a lot of potential so they went with that. This pick might have proved it that they made a mistake taking Marcus Smart.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

I’m ok with the Celtics pick because everyone they wanted didn’t drop to them. I know they tried to move up, but just couldn’t. Terry does have the talent to be a starting PG in the league, and a lot of potential so they went with that. This pick might have proved it that they made a mistake taking Marcus Smart.

[BleedGreen808Participant]

Honestly I like Smart a lot more than Rozier.  I had him going in the 2nd round which was probably too low.  But even still I don’t think you needed to take him at 16.  I think Tyus Jones, Jerian Grant,  and Delon Wright were all better prospects than Rozier.  Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens said he was the best player on the board at 16.  I think Bobby Portis is a much better player and he was still available.  I would have rather taken Jerian Grant if we wanted to take another point guard.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

Honestly I like Smart a lot more than Rozier.  I had him going in the 2nd round which was probably too low.  But even still I don’t think you needed to take him at 16.  I think Tyus Jones, Jerian Grant,  and Delon Wright were all better prospects than Rozier.  Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens said he was the best player on the board at 16.  I think Bobby Portis is a much better player and he was still available.  I would have rather taken Jerian Grant if we wanted to take another point guard.  

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 Kris Dunn should have come out. I thought he should have, and he could have been available at 16 for the Celtics. He would have been the best value for me at point at that selection.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 Kris Dunn should have come out. I thought he should have, and he could have been available at 16 for the Celtics. He would have been the best value for me at point at that selection.

[r377Participant]

Draft picks are like buying new cars. Everyone will pay a premium to get one, but once it is used it loses it quickly loses its value….

In last years draft Gordon @4. Smart @ 6. Stauskis 8. Vonleh @ 9. Imagine trying to trade for the same value as this years or any future years draft. eg. trying to trade Gordon for a 4th overall pick or Smart for a 6th pick in this year (Boston did try)

[r377Participant]

Draft picks are like buying new cars. Everyone will pay a premium to get one, but once it is used it loses it quickly loses its value….

In last years draft Gordon @4. Smart @ 6. Stauskis 8. Vonleh @ 9. Imagine trying to trade for the same value as this years or any future years draft. eg. trying to trade Gordon for a 4th overall pick or Smart for a 6th pick in this year (Boston did try)

[sheltwon3Participant]

 This draft appears to be better than last year.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 This draft appears to be better than last year.

[r377Participant]

Agree 100% with bleedgreen taking Rozier with the 16th pick was dumb.

Tyus Jones, Grant and Wright would all be better. Grant and Wright are bigger and stronger than Rozier, they can guard PG and SG. Grant also is a better shooter.

I would of even took Vaughn or Portis over Rozier. In fact I would of taken quite a few more players before Rozier who I had going to Nets late first.

Trade rumors leading into this and now taking Rozier is not going to do much for Smart’s confidence….

[r377Participant]

Agree 100% with bleedgreen taking Rozier with the 16th pick was dumb.

Tyus Jones, Grant and Wright would all be better. Grant and Wright are bigger and stronger than Rozier, they can guard PG and SG. Grant also is a better shooter.

I would of even took Vaughn or Portis over Rozier. In fact I would of taken quite a few more players before Rozier who I had going to Nets late first.

Trade rumors leading into this and now taking Rozier is not going to do much for Smart’s confidence….

[DC FrazParticipant]

Clear winners were the Wolves, Rockets, and Heat. Wolves got the obvious choice with Towns, then pull off a trade to get Jones who can be a quality backup out the gate for Rubio and allowing LaVine to play more at the 2. Rockets got two steals Dekker and Harrell at lower spots than projected. But Miami got the steal of the night with Winslow dropping to 10.

I don’t like what the Sixers did. I get the Okafor pick, since you’re were taking the best player available, but they just kept drafting bigs the whole night. 3 centers and Holmes come on now. I know a couple of them are stash players, but are they just going to ignore the PG position?? Maybe they can pull off some trades, because as it stands right now, the team looks like a scrambled mess.

[DC FrazParticipant]

Clear winners were the Wolves, Rockets, and Heat. Wolves got the obvious choice with Towns, then pull off a trade to get Jones who can be a quality backup out the gate for Rubio and allowing LaVine to play more at the 2. Rockets got two steals Dekker and Harrell at lower spots than projected. But Miami got the steal of the night with Winslow dropping to 10.

I don’t like what the Sixers did. I get the Okafor pick, since you’re were taking the best player available, but they just kept drafting bigs the whole night. 3 centers and Holmes come on now. I know a couple of them are stash players, but are they just going to ignore the PG position?? Maybe they can pull off some trades, because as it stands right now, the team looks like a scrambled mess.

[r377Participant]

In true Hinkie style they traded Hernangomez (who I think will be a handy player) for another two second round draft picks (because having 100 second rounders isn’t enough for him).

Then also drafted Tokoto on the condition he play overseas or d league.

What is the point of collecting assets and having 20 players when you cant even put them on the roster…..

[r377Participant]

In true Hinkie style they traded Hernangomez (who I think will be a handy player) for another two second round draft picks (because having 100 second rounders isn’t enough for him).

Then also drafted Tokoto on the condition he play overseas or d league.

What is the point of collecting assets and having 20 players when you cant even put them on the roster…..

[XYRYXParticipant]

Absolutely. The Okafor pick was okay to me. D’Angelo was off the board and if they don’t like Mudiay that much you can do this, even if Hezonja might have been another pick worth considering but that’s just my opinion. 

You can go BPA or BT(Talent)A in the top 3 but only going for big men in the 2nd round since Tokoto is expected to beeing stashed overseas or in the league – really? 

At one point you have to assamble a real roster in Philly, you just can’t throw on players like you want and both Gudaitis and Mitrovic are not very likely to come over at all. 

What’s the idea to have all this picks if you basically don’t want to use them or can’t get any trades done? 

And there still have been guys not beeing drafted at all in Alexander, Frazier, Harrison, Upshaw, Wood, Holmes, Hunter, Jaiteh, Petteway or Walker from Florida… This would have been bis men too but this is nonsense to me since I really don’t see any progress at all with this roster as a unit, only assabled talent. 

I hope Saric stays for two more years and can negotiate a contract on his own the Sixers don’t want to pay and are forced to trade his rights. smh

 

[XYRYXParticipant]

Absolutely. The Okafor pick was okay to me. D’Angelo was off the board and if they don’t like Mudiay that much you can do this, even if Hezonja might have been another pick worth considering but that’s just my opinion. 

You can go BPA or BT(Talent)A in the top 3 but only going for big men in the 2nd round since Tokoto is expected to beeing stashed overseas or in the league – really? 

At one point you have to assamble a real roster in Philly, you just can’t throw on players like you want and both Gudaitis and Mitrovic are not very likely to come over at all. 

What’s the idea to have all this picks if you basically don’t want to use them or can’t get any trades done? 

And there still have been guys not beeing drafted at all in Alexander, Frazier, Harrison, Upshaw, Wood, Holmes, Hunter, Jaiteh, Petteway or Walker from Florida… This would have been bis men too but this is nonsense to me since I really don’t see any progress at all with this roster as a unit, only assabled talent. 

I hope Saric stays for two more years and can negotiate a contract on his own the Sixers don’t want to pay and are forced to trade his rights. smh

 

[TrillaParticipant]

 Yeah why not take a flyer on a couple of the shooters in the second round instead of adding more and more centers. Tyler Harvey, Joseph Young, Michael Frazier are guys that could play a decent amount on next years roster, and potentially develop to fill a desperate need that this team doesnt have. Shooting. They have 8 bigs already, take a flyer on a scorer compared to a European  who drew comparisons to Aron Baynes.

Or, they probably couldve traded 35 and 37 to a team like the spurs for 26 to take RJ Hunter, a guy who could be a long term starter for them, and let the spurs take 2 foreign center who we may or may never see in the leage

 

[TrillaParticipant]

 Yeah why not take a flyer on a couple of the shooters in the second round instead of adding more and more centers. Tyler Harvey, Joseph Young, Michael Frazier are guys that could play a decent amount on next years roster, and potentially develop to fill a desperate need that this team doesnt have. Shooting. They have 8 bigs already, take a flyer on a scorer compared to a European  who drew comparisons to Aron Baynes.

Or, they probably couldve traded 35 and 37 to a team like the spurs for 26 to take RJ Hunter, a guy who could be a long term starter for them, and let the spurs take 2 foreign center who we may or may never see in the leage

 

[r377Participant]

Actually the Knicks did good on draft day. They aquired Hernangomez who is actually teammates with Porzinga. This will be great for chemistry both on and off the court. Will be hard in a foreign country whose fans are so fickle…

They also got away with theft. Jerian Grant for scrub Hardaway.

These 3 – Porzinga, Hernangomez and Grant could actually all start for them in the next couple of seasons. Grant and Zinga wil prob start at some time this season. H-gomez will take some time to come over and develop

[r377Participant]

Actually the Knicks did good on draft day. They aquired Hernangomez who is actually teammates with Porzinga. This will be great for chemistry both on and off the court. Will be hard in a foreign country whose fans are so fickle…

They also got away with theft. Jerian Grant for scrub Hardaway.

These 3 – Porzinga, Hernangomez and Grant could actually all start for them in the next couple of seasons. Grant and Zinga wil prob start at some time this season. H-gomez will take some time to come over and develop

[XYRYXParticipant]

Yep I like what the Knicks did there. 

Porzingis is not only a great talent but also a really nice guy, I just hope the fanbase who went for the booing has some patience with him. He really deserves a chance and I think many will be suprised when he steps on the NBA floor. The Hernangomez pick is really underrated to me, my only knock is that they again managed to trade away two future 2nd rounders and I’m not sure the Knicks have any picks left for the next couple of years. I think you could have a similar pick for a little cash from other teams as well. 

If they would have kept some of them, they could easily have drafted a player like Hernangomez by themselves. 

But to get away with this three players form draft day seems like a good day for this franchise. 

[XYRYXParticipant]

Yep I like what the Knicks did there. 

Porzingis is not only a great talent but also a really nice guy, I just hope the fanbase who went for the booing has some patience with him. He really deserves a chance and I think many will be suprised when he steps on the NBA floor. The Hernangomez pick is really underrated to me, my only knock is that they again managed to trade away two future 2nd rounders and I’m not sure the Knicks have any picks left for the next couple of years. I think you could have a similar pick for a little cash from other teams as well. 

If they would have kept some of them, they could easily have drafted a player like Hernangomez by themselves. 

But to get away with this three players form draft day seems like a good day for this franchise. 

[n3xParticipant]

 Kristaps can speak with Calderon and Shved in russian (most Latvians know russian pretty good)

[XYRYXParticipant]

You know that Calderóns first name is José and that he is from Spain? 

[XYRYXParticipant]

You know that Calderóns first name is José and that he is from Spain? 

[n3xParticipant]

 Kristaps can speak with Calderon and Shved in russian (most Latvians know russian pretty good)

[XYRYXParticipant]

I like the Mavs draft. 

Anderson and the big Singh are nice pickups for the spots they had in this draft without the need to make any moves. 

I really like what Cleveland did with the Jones trade to bring in Cedi Osman and Rakeem Christmas. Very cheap contracts and Osman is on of several young turkish prospects who will have a great future in my opinion. Christmas is basically what Hickson was when he was on his rookie contract with the Cavs. 

The Rockets got Decker at 18 and Harrell at 32 and both are very good picksups at this sports and are really nice fits for them. 

I still have mixed feelings about what the Celtics did there. I think they tried very hard to move up and couln’t get this done and now have an overly crowded backcourt. Maybe they clean out the house if/when they are going for the big name free agents and I would really like to know what Sully is thinking now after he obviously thought he got traded to the Hornets…

[XYRYXParticipant]

I like the Mavs draft. 

Anderson and the big Singh are nice pickups for the spots they had in this draft without the need to make any moves. 

I really like what Cleveland did with the Jones trade to bring in Cedi Osman and Rakeem Christmas. Very cheap contracts and Osman is on of several young turkish prospects who will have a great future in my opinion. Christmas is basically what Hickson was when he was on his rookie contract with the Cavs. 

The Rockets got Decker at 18 and Harrell at 32 and both are very good picksups at this sports and are really nice fits for them. 

I still have mixed feelings about what the Celtics did there. I think they tried very hard to move up and couln’t get this done and now have an overly crowded backcourt. Maybe they clean out the house if/when they are going for the big name free agents and I would really like to know what Sully is thinking now after he obviously thought he got traded to the Hornets…

[CynthiaParticipant]

Thunder are losers.

Payne is an excellent player, but the Thunder already have Westbrook & Augustin. Everyone’s draft grades I’ve read so far keep saying "Thunder really needed a backup PG", it’s like people forget they have D.J. Augustin that came along with the Kanter, Singler & Novak trade. Augustin has been regarded as one of the best backup PGs in the league for a few years now. So the pick of Payne is an absolute head-scratcher to me.

If the Thunder were picking in their usual range of 25-30 I wouldn’t care if they picked up a third PG, however there was some serious talent available at 14 that could have addressed a need. They’re trying to ship out players so they can afford to resign Kanter & Singler, I can understand Kanter being a priority but Singler isn’t that big of a deal. I was hoping they would draft someone like Devin Booker(unfortunately was taken one spot above them), Sam Dekker, Kelly Oubre, even Justin Anderson to fill that backup roll for Durant, and just used their money to resign Kanter and let Singler walk. Don’t get me wrong I’m a fan of Singler and was before he joined the Thunder but when money is this tight I feel like he isn’t a huge deal to resign when you could draft someone just as good or better to fill his spot.

But alas, they take a PG…If someone can give me a justifiable reason for this pick then by all means knock some sense into me. But if it stands as-is then Payne is either going to have a career life of the DLeague or they’re going to brush aside Augustin, either way it’s going to be a huge waste of talent.

Presti seems to have a fetish with getting these young guys with potential and stashing them in the DLeague so they never get any NBA experience, and then trading them away 2-3 years later. It’s an absolute waste of talent.

As far as the second round pick I don’t mind Dakari Johnson, I kind of like the guy, but he won’t make the team. If they’re able to resign Kanter then they have a bunch of Centers already in Kanter, Adams, McGary, and Collison plays a lot of Center. So really the Johnson pick was another head-scratcher, if he somehow manages to make the team he will never play behind 3-4 other Centers.

My Final Thunder grade would be a smoothe D+

 

 

 

 

 

 

[n3xParticipant]

 I think they were in for Devin Booker, but then Suns picked him and siht went bad.

[CynthiaParticipant]

Fully agree, I think they were sure Booker would be available and got blindsided, but they should have had a better backup plan. Booker and Dekker were my top two choices, I knew at least one would be available by the 14th pick.

If Presti intends on moving Payne or Augustin then I’ll be happy, but Presti almost never makes moves, the big trade last year was a surprising fluke. He tends to stand pat with his draft picks.

 

[CynthiaParticipant]

Fully agree, I think they were sure Booker would be available and got blindsided, but they should have had a better backup plan. Booker and Dekker were my top two choices, I knew at least one would be available by the 14th pick.

If Presti intends on moving Payne or Augustin then I’ll be happy, but Presti almost never makes moves, the big trade last year was a surprising fluke. He tends to stand pat with his draft picks.

 

[n3xParticipant]

 I think they were in for Devin Booker, but then Suns picked him and siht went bad.

[CynthiaParticipant]

Thunder are losers.

Payne is an excellent player, but the Thunder already have Westbrook & Augustin. Everyone’s draft grades I’ve read so far keep saying "Thunder really needed a backup PG", it’s like people forget they have D.J. Augustin that came along with the Kanter, Singler & Novak trade. Augustin has been regarded as one of the best backup PGs in the league for a few years now. So the pick of Payne is an absolute head-scratcher to me.

If the Thunder were picking in their usual range of 25-30 I wouldn’t care if they picked up a third PG, however there was some serious talent available at 14 that could have addressed a need. They’re trying to ship out players so they can afford to resign Kanter & Singler, I can understand Kanter being a priority but Singler isn’t that big of a deal. I was hoping they would draft someone like Devin Booker(unfortunately was taken one spot above them), Sam Dekker, Kelly Oubre, even Justin Anderson to fill that backup roll for Durant, and just used their money to resign Kanter and let Singler walk. Don’t get me wrong I’m a fan of Singler and was before he joined the Thunder but when money is this tight I feel like he isn’t a huge deal to resign when you could draft someone just as good or better to fill his spot.

But alas, they take a PG…If someone can give me a justifiable reason for this pick then by all means knock some sense into me. But if it stands as-is then Payne is either going to have a career life of the DLeague or they’re going to brush aside Augustin, either way it’s going to be a huge waste of talent.

Presti seems to have a fetish with getting these young guys with potential and stashing them in the DLeague so they never get any NBA experience, and then trading them away 2-3 years later. It’s an absolute waste of talent.

As far as the second round pick I don’t mind Dakari Johnson, I kind of like the guy, but he won’t make the team. If they’re able to resign Kanter then they have a bunch of Centers already in Kanter, Adams, McGary, and Collison plays a lot of Center. So really the Johnson pick was another head-scratcher, if he somehow manages to make the team he will never play behind 3-4 other Centers.

My Final Thunder grade would be a smoothe D+

 

 

 

 

 

 

[machu46Participant]

As a Bucks fan, I’m surprised nobody thought we were one of the losers after the trade we made.  I’m not sure about Rashad Vaughn either.  Bit of a rocky start to the offseason.

[machu46Participant]

As a Bucks fan, I’m surprised nobody thought we were one of the losers after the trade we made.  I’m not sure about Rashad Vaughn either.  Bit of a rocky start to the offseason.

[dbeal23Participant]

 Minnesota took a mid season trade for a 2nd round pick and there own 2nd round pick and a future 2nd round pick and turned it into a 1st round pick and selected hometown kid Tyus Jones. Flip is just killing the NBA with his moves. Being a Minny fan I can express how awesome it is to have somebody making moves you actually trust! 

[dbeal23Participant]

 Minnesota took a mid season trade for a 2nd round pick and there own 2nd round pick and a future 2nd round pick and turned it into a 1st round pick and selected hometown kid Tyus Jones. Flip is just killing the NBA with his moves. Being a Minny fan I can express how awesome it is to have somebody making moves you actually trust! 

[NBAexpert82Participant]

 Obviously the Timberwolves got the best player in the draft but if you look at where the Rockets were drafting they did a very good job.  At 18 they drafted Sam decker, a clutch small forward with size.  At 32 they got the steal of the draft grabbing Montrezl Harrell in the second round when he seemed to be a clear top twenty.

 

[NBAexpert82Participant]

 Obviously the Timberwolves got the best player in the draft but if you look at where the Rockets were drafting they did a very good job.  At 18 they drafted Sam decker, a clutch small forward with size.  At 32 they got the steal of the draft grabbing Montrezl Harrell in the second round when he seemed to be a clear top twenty.

 

[sheltwon3Participant]

 People forget that there is also Free agency and also not eveybody values unknowns like some of us do. OKC is a very good team when Healthy and could possibly chanlenge the GSW to win the West.  Singler is a very consistent shooter and in the way that is a huge need.  Payne is a playmaking.  DJ is more of a shot maker.  OKC will be find they are a team and front office that tends to make a lot of good moves.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 People forget that there is also Free agency and also not eveybody values unknowns like some of us do. OKC is a very good team when Healthy and could possibly chanlenge the GSW to win the West.  Singler is a very consistent shooter and in the way that is a huge need.  Payne is a playmaking.  DJ is more of a shot maker.  OKC will be find they are a team and front office that tends to make a lot of good moves.

[kobyzParticipant]

 Top 5 winners: 76ers(Okafor, the best go to guy player in the draft and a future superstar at 3), Heat(Winslow at 10 is a gift, Miami found great consolation one year after losing Lebron), Rockets(Dekker so underrated, if he wasn’t white he would’ve been a top 10 pick, Harrell in the second round also could be a steal if he become focus), OKC(Payne, high level and true PG at 14, can’t ask for more), Wolves(best player)…

[kobyzParticipant]

 Top 5 winners: 76ers(Okafor, the best go to guy player in the draft and a future superstar at 3), Heat(Winslow at 10 is a gift, Miami found great consolation one year after losing Lebron), Rockets(Dekker so underrated, if he wasn’t white he would’ve been a top 10 pick, Harrell in the second round also could be a steal if he become focus), OKC(Payne, high level and true PG at 14, can’t ask for more), Wolves(best player)…

[ditotayParticipant]

surprised by the Bulls’ pick, but I also think is a great pick. Although I think there are going to be moves in order to open minutes for the young ones. 

[ditotayParticipant]

surprised by the Bulls’ pick, but I also think is a great pick. Although I think there are going to be moves in order to open minutes for the young ones. 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 Believe it or not but the Nets won big to be undervalued with what was brought in. Losing out on Thaddeus Young due to opting-out, the replacement is by far a solid filler in Rondae Hollis-Jefferson via trade.

Although Mason Plumlee was my guy, Chris McCullough is a late-round 1 steal in a sense of potential for the near future on top of having the athleticism to compete right away. Hopefully, the hometown pick will rid those off-the-court distractions early, now that he is financially stable.

Pat Connaughton gives us more grit and grind from the wing spot athletically as well, aside from Markel Brown being the only elite athlete on the team prior to the draft.

All-in-all. I am very pleased with the moves Billy King has made for once.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 Believe it or not but the Nets won big to be undervalued with what was brought in. Losing out on Thaddeus Young due to opting-out, the replacement is by far a solid filler in Rondae Hollis-Jefferson via trade.

Although Mason Plumlee was my guy, Chris McCullough is a late-round 1 steal in a sense of potential for the near future on top of having the athleticism to compete right away. Hopefully, the hometown pick will rid those off-the-court distractions early, now that he is financially stable.

Pat Connaughton gives us more grit and grind from the wing spot athletically as well, aside from Markel Brown being the only elite athlete on the team prior to the draft.

All-in-all. I am very pleased with the moves Billy King has made for once.

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