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  • #66662
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    SlickBouncePass
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     I rewatched the 2016 Hoop Summit and McD AS games.  I came away not as high on Fultz as I once was…here’s why:

    I love the pass, its the favorite part of the game.  I love watching the ball move, and efficient shots and scoring.  To make good passes you have to get the ball out of your hand quickly, and have an excellent field of vision.

    Lebron James for example and Ben Simmons, I’d say have 180+ degree field of vision.  They can see everything in front of them and to their sides, and probably also somewhat behind them, and gets the ball in the right player’s hands at all time.

    In this draft, that player in Lonzo Ball.  Josh Jackson the co MVP of McDAAG, was giving credit to Lonzo saying he is ‘a heck of a player’.  He obviously has a high IQ and a great field of vision.

    Less than 180 but still very fluid in his passing, meaning he can’t see fully across but probably more like 120 degree vision, is Josh Jackson.  JJ is great at making the touch QB-like passes, but more importantly the ball gets out of his hands quickly in addition to hitting the player in stride.  So not quite as great a tablesetter as Lonzo, but still very very good.  This is important because it really helps in team ball, team passing is critical.

    Why I’m scared about Fultz is, that the ball stops in Fultz hands longer than it should.  I think Fultz instinct is to create with the ball in his hands. This is a good trait, the ability to penetrate and dribble first then pass, is very good when you have Ben Simmons playing beside you, but it will get frustrating to watch Fultz create and stop the ball, especially the way the 76ers were playing last year.  I’d say Fultz has a 90 degree vision, meaning he is a reliable QB but he sees only the one passer in front of him.  Fultz instinct is to hold the ball, penetrate, shoot if the shot is there, if not he will find the open man in front of him.  Its part of the reason he is very good off screens.  Off a screen his option is score, or pass to the roller.  I don’t like Fultz field of vision…I just think Jackson and Ball are better at it.

    Its true the Sixers need a scorer, but maybe Monk is the better fit due to his ability to just be a spot up shooter and I think Monk is a slightly better passer.  

    I am knit-picking here, but I honestly think Ball’s field of vision and IQ are top notch…before UCLA I remember watching MCDAAG for the first time and coming away impressed with Ball.  Jackson is second best, but Jackson is an excellent defender and competitor with an all around game.

    Fultz is a great triple threat player, but I think he’s the QB that only sees the 1 receiver.

    To put it in QB perspective, I think Ball is like Tom Brady.  Josh Jackson is like Aaron Rodgers, and Fultz is like Mike Vick.  

    It depends on your team need, but for a ball movement offense where stars are needed to make everyone around them better, I like Jackson the best, followed by Ball, then Fultz.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

      

     

     

     

     

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    negguary
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    THAt would make harden cam newton? Lol 

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  • #1101194
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    Danielcmccarty
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     The ball wont stop with Brett Brown at coach. If you havent followed the sixers since hes been there(I have watched nearly every game the last 2 years as a die hard smh) hes a spurs prodigy. "Defense, Pace and Space" are the boxes the sixers are looking to check bringing in any type of player whether it be purchasing a free agent, building though the draft, or developing organically what they have already had. Ben simmons will move that ball and push the pace and Fultz will hopefully space the floor. 

    But if theres one thing Brett Brown hates, its a ball stopping isolation jump shooter. That was why when the sixers were at pick #3, I was concerened about a guy like jayson tatum because he naturally sizes up his 1 on 1 matchup off the catch, then gets back to the team concepts if he doesnt like what hes got. Brett Brown would rather you react off the catch in what he calls the (point 5 world) where you make your decision of shooting, driving or passing within half a second of the catch. Thats the culture he is building and he will mold Fultz right into that *point five world* without having to break bad isolation habits built up over a few seasons by similar players like D’angelo Russell. 

     

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    • #1101252
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      SlickBouncePass
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      i’m a die hard also, a lot of suffering.

      You just have your concerns and although he’s a really good passer, meaning he gets it to the guy he sees open, I don’t think he ever looks crosscourt or finds the 3 point shooter.  Also his first instinct is to dribble drive, penetrate, or stepback jumper it up.

      Anyway, I’m with you on BB, I was NOT a believer at all.  In fact, I can name you the time when I felt he had arrived, which was that last second game winner he drew up for a fading to the basket Robert Covington.

      After that, I and everyone that pretty much knows basketball or is a fan, loved the ball movement and playing hard to the whistle type game.

      In fact, I dunno how our starting unit is going to play, but if our bench plays the same way, with TJ running point, I will look forward to that.  TJ Dario TLC Holmes and maybe Justin Anderson as your second unit knowing how to play together…will be sick.

       

       

       

        

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    dancudi
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     Drew Brees = Steph Curry

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