donald sterling is racist
the clippers owner has long been rumored to be a closet racist. His former gm elgin baylor said sterling was racist but most turned their head becasue baylor had been there 20+ years despite not excelling at his job and figured it was sour grapes once he was finally fired. but now there is recorded audio of stern spouting ignorance. Here are some excerpts:
-- "It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you’re associating with black people. Do you have to?" (3:30)
-- "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games." (5:15)
-- "I’m just saying, in your lousy f******* Instagrams, you don’t have to have yourself with, walking with black people." (7:45)
-- "...Don't put him [Magic] on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. And don't bring him to my games." (9:13)
my question is does this impact the clippers ability to attract and keep players going forward? Will this result in fan backlash?
edit: and to put the original post into context, it was a conversation sterling was having with a girl he was seeing discussing with how he didnt appreciate her posting pictures of herself with black people. The story is on tmz where i found it.
This isn't anything new. One of the worst quotes I've ever read about him from a reporter was when he supposedly walked into the locker room after a game with 2 women and told them to "look at all that beautiful black meat" while the players were showering.
He's a disgusting human being.
I see no reason for this thread honestly. Everyone knows he's racist and hates pregant women and poor families. There's already been evidence shown in the past about how horrible of a human being he is. It hasn't lead to backlash before, and it won't now. Especially now that the Clippers are title contenders. Players want to win. Coaches want to win. A horrible owner won't push people away. Especially when they're already known for it.
becasue there has been tons of reports without proof. Rumors and supposed comments that came from someone who heard something that someone told them. Now their is audio proof in a day and age where media jumps all over this stuff. If you dont think an active nba owner being openly racist is thread worthy, then go click on another "look at my mock draft" thread.
This just in.... Nevermind old news. Where did you find those quotes I'd like to hear the audio?
I was wondering the same thing because he highlighted times for us to refer back to but no audio links are available.
He's had a long history of racist behavior, and it hasn't seemed to have affected the franchise's ability to sign talent. I doubt this changes anything on that front.
Fans are resilient. A player can slam his pregnant girlfriend's head on a staircase, threaten to kill a fan while shouting racist and homophobic slurs, or impregnate a 13-year-old girl; fans will defend these players as long on they're playing well.
Nobody likes Donald Sterling, but the man could have been caught on video burning puppies while wearing a Nazi uniform with no significant hit as far as the team's fan-support is concerned.
Yeah, this isn't anything new. At fiirst I was annoyed that this was getting so much coverage, because this is NOTHING new from this scumbag. But, maybe this will finally get enough traction to force him to sell the team. One story that popped into my mind was that of Baron Davis claiming that Sterling was screaming the N-word at him, claiming that he stole his money when Baron signed with the Clippers (then gave a darn good pick to Cleveland just to take him off their hands).
Hes like the modern day Calvin Candy from Django Unchained and the LA Clippers and Staples Center is his Candyland. Sterling doesnt care anyways he could probally buy tmz a 500 000 times. Pretty much what you would expect from a 150 year old jewish billionaire (not to affend any jewish people but Sterling grew up during terribly rascist times).
He is JEWISH so what can we expect?
Why Donald? Why? As a long suffering Clippers fan throughout the years now more than ever isn't the time to stir up drama while the Clips are in the playoffs. The last thing u want is for reporters to ask the Clips players and coaches about having a racist as their boss while their trying to put a team away. I have listened to the audio of this conversation and "the Donald" comes out as an insecure old man more than anything. Honestly, his girlfriend kept baiting him about the whole "black people" thing and the Donald just took the bait everytime. This man sounds like he's in the early stages of dimentia doesn't appear to be all there all the time.
We live in friends..............racism still exists in every sector of society...............don't teach it to your kids and you've done your part.
Jewish Hollywood will try to bury this story, and some posters here will tell us Hollywood isn't a Jewish monopoly. Chosenism = Supremacism, no different than the KKK but with an eternal victimology thrown in. Psychological projection.
Yiddish terms to know:
schvartze = n!gg*r
goyim = non-Jews = cattle
shiksa = non-Jewish female = filthy whore
shonde fer die goyim = giving God/Jews a bad name in front of the non-Jews/cattle
In a sentence: Sterling committed a shonde fer die goyim by talking about schvartzes with his shiksa girlfriend.
This moron should have brought the LA Kings instead, seems like he'd enjoy it more.
That video was so absurd it barely seemed legit.
Ari Emanuel, the top agent in Hollywood and inspiration for the Ari Gold character in Entourage, was putting together a movie about Navy Seals a few years ago. Somebody suggested Wesley Snipes. Ari said that was a stupid idea, because everybody knows blacks can't swim. Look it up.
The PC police that make 6 Holycau$t movies a year will never tell you about their own primative tribal attitudes toward tribal outsiders.
RACHEL: Hollywood’s run by Jews. I was advised by an American agent when I was about 19 to change my surname. And I said “Why? Jews run Hollywood.” He said “Exactly.” He had a theory that all the executives think acting’s a job for shiksas.
EMMA: Of all the self-loathing Jews in the world, the most self-loathing are the Hollywood Jews. They don’t want to see images of themselves on screen. That’s why Lauren Bacall had to hide her identity, and Winona Ryder changed her name from Horowitz.
RACHEL: In some way acting is prostitution, and Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate. Also, there’s an element of Portnoy’s Complaint — they all fancy Aryan blondes.
"RACHEL: In some way acting is prostitution, and Hollywood Jews don’t want their own women to participate."
She's talking about the casting couch.
Feeling the Hate in Jerusalem:
Notice how Sterling tries to make his girlfriend feel like the bad person. Narcissists and collective narcissists like The Jewish Community never blame themselves for anything, always the victim, and nothing ever matters more than THEIR suffering, real or imagined.
Judaism breeds collective narcissists with indocrtination that Jews are more moral, smarter, more civilized, and on and on and on. Chosen shmozen.
This is mainstream secular Jewish family values: http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/notes-on-my-racism-part-1.html http://mondoweiss.net/2010/08/notes-on-my-racism-part-2.html http://mondoweiss.net/2010/10/notes-on-my-racism-part-3-my-people.html
Israel's Chief Rabbi:
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” he said during a public discussion of what kind of work non-Jews are allowed to perform on Shabbat.
"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat," he said to some laughter.
"With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,”
I like how you decided not to quote the part where it says:
The American Jewish Committee condemned the rabbi’s remarks in a statement issued Monday.
"Rabbi Yosef’s remarks — suggesting outrageously that Jewish scripture asserts non-Jews exist to serve Jews — are abhorrent and an offense to human dignity and human equality,” said AJC Executive Director David Harris. "Judaism first taught the world that all individuals are created in the divine image, which helped form the basis of our moral code. A rabbi should be the first, not the last, to reflect that bedrock teaching of our tradition."
Yes it's disgusting that Donald Sterling is this way but lets be honest, anybody will tell you that racism is still alive and well especially among the older generations. However to turn around and start attacking Jewish people is just as bad. Donald Sterling is an individual, and as an individual he is responsible for his own words and deeds. Malik Zulu Shabazz called for the deaths of every "Zionist" in Israel, including babies and old women, but that doesn't make all black people hateful and bloodthirsty. SMH that a thread about Sterling being a racist has simply brought out more racism.
Criticizing the ideology of Jewish supremacism is not racism, but Jewish supremacists will call it racism even though 90% of Jews like Sterling are white. Arab Jews tend to be less supremacist, because they know what it's like to be brown.
When you tell a kid that his tribe is Chosen, and his tribe is better than all the goyim, intellectually and morally, eternally, that's supremacism.
Supremacists always believe that THEIR supremacism is simply fact, not repugnant like all the other supremacists they criticize.
This ideology is simply central to Jewish religion and Halacha (Jewish law), which is why we haven't seen a real Jewish Reformation that involves a real schism. The AJC isn't about to cut off money to orthodox communities who are supremacist, because those orthodox are just following the Torah and Talmud, and the AJC is still Jewish nationalist/supremacist.
Israel: NO BLACKS ALLOWED! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irhw6bj5pa0
Jewish Girl Prank Calls Her Parents
Watch, the media will only refer to Sterling as "white", and never as Jewish. Just like The Wolf of Wall Street's Jordan Belfort. When Sterling talks about his "culture" in the convo with his girlfriend, he's talking about his Jewish culture, not some generic white culture.
I'm just gonna go ahead and leave this here for maximum lulz
Man that girlfriend must of really had enough of it so record that and get those responses out of him. In the court room we call that entrapment but not in the court room... Puuure gold.
This is nothing new. Everybody knew this guy was a bigot. Glad someone finally caught it on tape for the whole world to hear.
This might be too soon to think about for those close to the situation. But how are black clipper fans supposed to feel? What about the black clipper players and the black clipper coach? I know how it would make me feel in my place of employment, I would quit. But I imagine no players, or fans or coaches will skip a beat on this. People will still buy tickets and the players will continue to play making him rich. The problem in society isn't racism anymore ( though don't get me wrong it does still exist) because for the most part the bigots have been weeded out by the masses who have progressed into accepting people for who they are. The real problem is the value that people place on money. They place it above their own ethics, values and morales and as despicable as this act was.... He won't face any consequences because the people still just want their money.
Aside from the obvious reasons like actually winning championships this is the main reason LA will never be a Clipper town because their owner won't help them.
This is the guy you are lining the pockets of with endless amounts of money clippers fans and players...... Be proud of yourselves.
So I just saw a webpost/petition saying that Clippers games from here on out should be "Black Outs", in which only people of color can buy tickets and be allowed into games, with the purpose of scaring Sterling out of the building/to give him a heart attack...ROFL
As we have said over and over again, this is expected behavior. He is the REAL question we should be asking, which is worse? An 80 year old billionaire racist or a Golddigger who dates/ associates with a guy like this?? Clearly she is beautiful on the outside, but how morallly bankrupt is she that she would be seen with him?? Everybody has got a price. I remember someone asking Stephen A Smith about a free agent signing with the Clips, due to an incedent with Sterling, He said " the players could care less,show me the money". And he was 100 percent correct!
I mean she is basically dating him for his wealth but he is doing the same for her youth and beauty. It is intellectually bankrupt to call the person in the conversation questioning rascist comments and ethics, morally bankrupt, if the other person is Donal Sterling spouting veiled and unveiled racist remarks.
Just heard on the radio that Adam Silver will address the Media tonight here in Memphis..I'm sure he'll talk about this matter..But there isnt much they can do but give him a hefty fine for detrimental comments..Becuz by laws protect them from forcing him to sell the team. without him doing anything criminal .....Sponsers and fans boycotting his product might force him to sell the team...
Read online where some are calling for Doc Rivers and the players to refuse to play for him...Not sure they'll do that....I remember when those Marge Schottz racists comments came out over a decade ago,people expected the Reds players to quit the team..But All Star shortstop Byron Larking said the organization is much bigger then her ,it was there long before she became the owner and it'll be there long after she's gone and he wasnt playing for her.......
Racism is among us... This does not surprise me
Have been calling him out for being a racist @sshole for years. Should not have been, yet am, a little surprised that this has been used as a platform to go on a deep, anti-semitic rant. Congrats, arambone. By the way, am a white, secular Jewish male. Who thinks that Donald Sterling is a despicable, racist and dislike his actions and practices greatly. Not to mention, know very many others who do not think like him who just so happen to be categorized as "Jewish".
Donald Sterling and some of the other figures, practices you have mentioned may believe certain things that are misinformed, ignorant and/or flat out racist. Just do not know why it has to be categorized to the point where you pretty much include everyone in their race or religion. That is pretty sad. Just throwing that out there, while still thinking Donald Sterling is a horrific owner as I have for a long time for so many reasons.
What's sad is that the vast majority of US Jews support an officially Jewish supremacist government for the Jews (Israel), but preach diversity for all the non-Jews of the world. Totally hypocritical, and it just shows that Jewish values change depending upon the circumstances, and what's "good for the Jews".
22 out of the 24 top Hollywood execs are Jewish, according to JJ Goldberg of the Jewish Daily Forward. But a non-Jew is almost universally called an anti-"semite" if they point this fact out. I don't see many or any Jews advocating for the celebration of democracy by diversifying Hollywood and the media giants that run this country and decide elections and promote wars for Israel.
Like I said, there's no schism in the Jewish community. The orthodox bigots are embraced by even secular Jews, who circle the wagons when outside criticism strikes. I don't doubt you're a decent human, and I know younger generations of Jews are more humane and less tribal and supremacist. But the toxic ideology will go on with or without you, and I hope you'll understand and perhaps someday even join in the fight against jewish supremacism, if only because many Jewish supremacists have so much power to do so much wrong to the goyim.
I'm a bit confused about all this jewish stuff. So are the elder jewish people like an evil illuminati group ?
I've been studying this issue for 11 years, I used to be a Judeophile, a non-Jewish jewish supremacist basically.
The illuminati includes people of different religious and racial backgrounds, but Jewish individuals play the leading role.
Just in this country alone, Jews make up 1.5% of the population, but make up 33% of the Supreme Court, 40% of America's billionaires, 75% of national campaign donations, 95% of Hollywood executives, etc. The past three heads of the Federal Reserve have been kosher, while incredible amounts of wealth have been transferred.
Most concerning is the wars, and the bankrupting effect they have on our souls and our national solvency. And 9/11, which relates directly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
Arambone, I'm glad you are passionate and read up on something. I don't have an opinion on your comments because quite frankly, I'm not reading your posts. But this topic is an interesting one and potentially can lead to good discussions. But it needs to stay basketball related. You are hijacking it at this point and spewing anti Semite talk. Please quit.
Ok, understood. We could talk about Adam Silver, which law firm his father was a partner of, and how many of the pro sports leagues they run, but I hear you and I'd rather talk sports as long as most everybody already knows the sky is blue.
No wonder the Clips ordered their black superfan to remove the Clippers logo from his superfan attire. http://clipperdarrell.com/2012/02/29/i-am-devastated/
Imagine the things running through everyone's head that next time he goes to a Clipper game. If I were the players, I wouldn't play the rest of the season and boycott to send a message. I understand that they worked their butts off for the chance to be here but Sterling is a poor excuse for a human being and I can't see myself represent a franchise and it's ownership that discriminates my race. I don't even know HOW you can be racist and be an owner of a basketball team. Good thing Sterling showed me how.
Also, I vote Sterling to sell his ownership as soon as possible.
F*** that, u should never let someone else's actions stop u from going after what u want in life. CP3 and the rest of the Clippers have busted their @sses this season to get to where they are. For them to give up now would be a huge spit in the face to all the fans that supported this crappy franchise throughout the yrs (me included). I been a Clips fans since 1997 back when Mo Taylor and Rodney Rogers ran the show, and trust me I have seen many of my favorite Clips come and go (Brand, Miles, QRich, Bledsoe) and still have stuck with them to this day. But I can honestly say if they gave up on the fans by boycotting the games then I'm done being a Clippers fans. Truth be told, I could really care less about DTS everyone has known for yrs he's a racist David Stern is partly at fault for not removing him as the owner a long time ago. If I'm Doc I tell my team that champions fight through adversity and don't give up when things get tuff.
If I'm a clipper, I state that I'm playing for myself, my teammates and the millions of clipper and basketball fans worldwide. Quitting would hurt them far more then it would hurt sterling. He is 80 and on his way out soon regardless. Hopefully the nba steps up and expedites that process.
I haven't read all of these posts, but it has been widely known that he was a racist. It seems as if people forgot about the whole thing with him not wanting to rent to blacks and mexicans. Back when that was known, I could not believe people would want to play for him.
The problem is that there are only so many NBA jobs and millions of dollars at stake. Even if you are just one of the everyday workers like a janitor, this is a bad situation. These people are going to have to come to work.
If I'm a Clippers fan of any color I just stay home and watch the game on tv. If I'm a player I am publicly demanding a trade once the season is over if Sterling still owns the team. If I am Doc Rivers I am asking out. Not saying that is how it plays out because there is lots of money at stake, but sometimes you have to stand up for things that matter even if it costs you.
The players like playing in Los Angeles, and they can't act too shocked about Sterling's latest. These guys, Doc included, do not have Rosa Parks style of principles. I laughed when Doc threatened to quit two days after he left for the Clippers.