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  • #32205
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    tuck243
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    First off let me start off by saying this isn’t my website and I don’t contribute to ish on here…

    Now, nbadraft.net has been around since like 99 or 2000… I’ve been a regular visitor to this site since 2001… That’s 10 freaking years!!! The first site to ever do player comparisons and mock drafts… They even included high school players… Lenny Cooke, DeJuan Wagner, D’Angelo Collins… Melo was compared to Glen Robinson? Or Antoine Walker…  LeBron was compared to Magic Johnson… Anyway…

    I say all that to say this, I’ve been gracing this site for a long time, although I can be very rude majority of the time I’m right… (Yes I’m being Cocky right now because it pissed me off)…  I understand it’s the off-season with a lockout, but it’s too much ish going on right now in the world of basketball to be talking about LONDON FLETCHER on the home page… And the reason is the lockout?  Its more things to talk about NOW than during the regular season… I’ve been reading some of you guy’s posts most of yall don’t even know about players that played before 2000… Some of yall 2005… Go on YouTube and watch game footage (NOT HIGHLIGHTS) of MJ, Nique, Bird, Magic… Go watch current NBA players in HS… Go look at stats for legend players; find out who Adrian Dantely is… Know how many All-Stars Wilt played with… Know that when he scored 100 points the player that was guarding him was a 6’6 rookie… Know why KG went from SC to Chicago; know who Ronnie Fields was…

    Expand your basketball knowledge; give me something that I don’t know…  You should love basketball that much shouldn’t you?  You type on this website nearly every day talking about it, right? So, why in the hell is LONDON FLETCHER a topic on here?  One of you fools said Kendall Marshall plays like Jason Kidd…  If you don’t go back and look at game footage of the younger Ason Kidd (Cuz he didn’t have a J)…  Kendall Marshall couldn’t even bring the ball up to half court at times… This how I know yall don’t know ish about history…  Yall probably think Dirk is a top 3 player right now huh?  He’s at least top 15 for his career right? Even though as a PF he averaged 7 boards this season… Really? Stop being a prisoner of the moment and do some research… Stop disrespecting older players that you know nothing about. Stop relying on other people knowledge and go find out if Bird was as good as they say… Or Rick Barry… Worthy… 

    I’m not trying to be any of yall bread snatchers father, but I am appalled that LONDON FLETCHER is a topic because it’s boring in the world of basketball… But yet folks comparing Kendall Marshall to Jason Kidd?

     

     

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  • #580947
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    surve
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    I feel you bruh…but there are some good posters here that know about players before 2000.  I try to make some interesting threads, but sometimes I dont follow through because I know that the majority of the readers wont be able to relate some of the players I am most familiar with.  I like the NBA now and watch games when I can and follow some players, but not like when I was growing up.  I came in around the time Dr. J won a championship in Philly, and I saw Magic win the national championship and watch him his whole career.  I was fortunate enough to see MJ from the moment he got to UNC til he retired.  Just in that short period, which is known as the Golden Age to folks on here, there was a helluva lotta history.  I think that our knowledge of seeing these players mixed with the knowledge of some of the younger members can benefit the site as a whole if people here truly value good insight and use some of the older members here as a resource.

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  • #580714
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    surve
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    I feel you bruh…but there are some good posters here that know about players before 2000.  I try to make some interesting threads, but sometimes I dont follow through because I know that the majority of the readers wont be able to relate some of the players I am most familiar with.  I like the NBA now and watch games when I can and follow some players, but not like when I was growing up.  I came in around the time Dr. J won a championship in Philly, and I saw Magic win the national championship and watch him his whole career.  I was fortunate enough to see MJ from the moment he got to UNC til he retired.  Just in that short period, which is known as the Golden Age to folks on here, there was a helluva lotta history.  I think that our knowledge of seeing these players mixed with the knowledge of some of the younger members can benefit the site as a whole if people here truly value good insight and use some of the older members here as a resource.

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  • #580948
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    MJBrown
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    I totally understand what you’re saying. I’m only 32 years old, but I think my basketball history knowledge is pretty good. If you’re a fan of the game, you should be a fan of the history of the game too. But…
    It is an open forum and people can write whatever they want. I don’t understand why it makes you so angry to see a post on London Fletcher. If it bothers you that much, just ignore it. There are far more important things in life to worry about than getting frustrated that kids who think they know ball, only know what they see on youtube.
    Its funny that you mention watching older ball games. The game that Larry scored 60 vs Atlanta was on yesterday. He shot 22/36 from the field and 15/16 from the line. Every shot that he made that game was jaw dropping. There were no stand-still wide open ones from the pocket. I can honestly say it is the greatest shooting exhibition that I have ever seen.
    Hope that cheers you up 🙂

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  • #580716
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    MJBrown
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    I totally understand what you’re saying. I’m only 32 years old, but I think my basketball history knowledge is pretty good. If you’re a fan of the game, you should be a fan of the history of the game too. But…
    It is an open forum and people can write whatever they want. I don’t understand why it makes you so angry to see a post on London Fletcher. If it bothers you that much, just ignore it. There are far more important things in life to worry about than getting frustrated that kids who think they know ball, only know what they see on youtube.
    Its funny that you mention watching older ball games. The game that Larry scored 60 vs Atlanta was on yesterday. He shot 22/36 from the field and 15/16 from the line. Every shot that he made that game was jaw dropping. There were no stand-still wide open ones from the pocket. I can honestly say it is the greatest shooting exhibition that I have ever seen.
    Hope that cheers you up 🙂

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  • #580951
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    KDThunder35
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    Tuck I see that you are pissed.  What do you bring that makes you right all the time?  Who would you compare Kendall Marshall to? (my personal is Marcus Williams from UConn)  I have been coming to this site since its birth as well.  Yes, Aran will be off with player profile comparisons a lot, but also he is spot on a lot, that’s what makes this site interesting and worthwhile.  No one is going to get everything right.  

    I do agree with you on everyone hopping on the Dirk wagon big time.  If he didn’t win a championship this year everyone would still be calling him soft.  Just because of the chip he gets labeled a great leader now.  I don’t see any real leader qualities from Dirk other than him being the teams best player and handling himself on & off the court with class.  Mavs real leader was JKidd if you ask me. He’s always been a great leader and I’m sure he was the most respected guy on the team.

    And awesome fact on the 6’6 rookie guarding Wilt when he scored 100, never knew that little factor.

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  • #580718
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    KDThunder35
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    Tuck I see that you are pissed.  What do you bring that makes you right all the time?  Who would you compare Kendall Marshall to? (my personal is Marcus Williams from UConn)  I have been coming to this site since its birth as well.  Yes, Aran will be off with player profile comparisons a lot, but also he is spot on a lot, that’s what makes this site interesting and worthwhile.  No one is going to get everything right.  

    I do agree with you on everyone hopping on the Dirk wagon big time.  If he didn’t win a championship this year everyone would still be calling him soft.  Just because of the chip he gets labeled a great leader now.  I don’t see any real leader qualities from Dirk other than him being the teams best player and handling himself on & off the court with class.  Mavs real leader was JKidd if you ask me. He’s always been a great leader and I’m sure he was the most respected guy on the team.

    And awesome fact on the 6’6 rookie guarding Wilt when he scored 100, never knew that little factor.

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  • #580952
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    McDunkin

    Tell em how you really feel! Put em on the glass!

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  • #580720
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    McDunkin

    Tell em how you really feel! Put em on the glass!

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  • #580958
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Man, I hope some people listen to you, because I can not seem to get through to many of them. If people actually did their research, this site would be so much better than it already is. I think we have a great message board, but there are people on here who constantly get it twisted because of not working with resources right in front of their face. You want to contribute at a high level, do some research before comparing so and so to what’s his face. Least you could do, and it saves us the boredom of reading garbage posts. There is an off-topic board, I like it, you can post off-topic things on there. Not everyone will see it, but at least it will not drown out people wanting to talk about basketball on the main board.

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  • #580726
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Man, I hope some people listen to you, because I can not seem to get through to many of them. If people actually did their research, this site would be so much better than it already is. I think we have a great message board, but there are people on here who constantly get it twisted because of not working with resources right in front of their face. You want to contribute at a high level, do some research before comparing so and so to what’s his face. Least you could do, and it saves us the boredom of reading garbage posts. There is an off-topic board, I like it, you can post off-topic things on there. Not everyone will see it, but at least it will not drown out people wanting to talk about basketball on the main board.

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  • #580964
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    M-DYMES
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    +1

    But to be appalled over this is far to much.  We are all sports fans and this was bound to happen in a lockout of one of them.  Another takes its spot momentarily. 

    If you are appalled…ignore it…don’t click on it…deal with it…or find something better to do.  Its not gonna kill you to have to not click on a topic. 

     

    But this does bring up another thought…

    We have all these folders for different types of threads…nba…nba draft…college ball…misc.

    Its about damn time those were utilized.

     

    *To label this thread…DISRESPECT…smh…smh.  Not a big deal bro…for me i just don’t click on the thread.  I certainly don’t feel disrespected or appalled.  SMH…WASO.

    WASO= Wit a Smile On

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  • #580732
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    M-DYMES
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    +1

    But to be appalled over this is far to much.  We are all sports fans and this was bound to happen in a lockout of one of them.  Another takes its spot momentarily. 

    If you are appalled…ignore it…don’t click on it…deal with it…or find something better to do.  Its not gonna kill you to have to not click on a topic. 

     

    But this does bring up another thought…

    We have all these folders for different types of threads…nba…nba draft…college ball…misc.

    Its about damn time those were utilized.

     

    *To label this thread…DISRESPECT…smh…smh.  Not a big deal bro…for me i just don’t click on the thread.  I certainly don’t feel disrespected or appalled.  SMH…WASO.

    WASO= Wit a Smile On

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  • #580970
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I do not find it to disrespectful, especially seeing that this is a rather slow news time. Still, I like that it was brought up. I am actually cool with the poster that did it (The London Fletcher post), and I feel he knows his basketball pretty well, but nonetheless, when something is on the main board, and it is not basketball related, it kind of sucks. I have a hard time not clicking on it, plus it moves things further down the board that might actually be basketball related. That is why I feel that what he said at least does not hurt, and that there are a lot of people on here that could use the advice handed out at the top of this thread.

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  • #580738
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I do not find it to disrespectful, especially seeing that this is a rather slow news time. Still, I like that it was brought up. I am actually cool with the poster that did it (The London Fletcher post), and I feel he knows his basketball pretty well, but nonetheless, when something is on the main board, and it is not basketball related, it kind of sucks. I have a hard time not clicking on it, plus it moves things further down the board that might actually be basketball related. That is why I feel that what he said at least does not hurt, and that there are a lot of people on here that could use the advice handed out at the top of this thread.

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  • #580980
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    M-DYMES
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    Believe I am def. happy he posted this.  It needs to be said at times.

     I wish people would use the specified folders…especially for topics with no basketball relevance what so ever.

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  • #580748
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    M-DYMES
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    Believe I am def. happy he posted this.  It needs to be said at times.

     I wish people would use the specified folders…especially for topics with no basketball relevance what so ever.

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  • #580982
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    M-DYMES
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    Theres alot of anger in this man

     

     

    Based on his two posts in the Fletcher thread and this…Turk is a dude u do not want to piss off. Particularly on the internet.

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  • #580750
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    M-DYMES
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    Theres alot of anger in this man

     

     

    Based on his two posts in the Fletcher thread and this…Turk is a dude u do not want to piss off. Particularly on the internet.

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  • #580994
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    WizardofOz
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    I’m a young dude. I’m only 15-years-old, and I started watching basketball in 2004, so my basketball history isn’t great. Of course I would’ve wanted to watch players like Jordan, Bird, and Wilt in there prime, but I don’t have a time machine to use to travel back in time.

    I watch many classic NBA games on NBA TV, but they only show the legends BEST games. They never show the games where they struggled or faced any adversity. If LeBron makes the HOF, by the time he’s retired, you think NBA TV is going to show his 8-point game in the Finals? Never. I know legends like Jordan, Bird, and Magic struggled too, but I never saw it, so I can’t really judge their careers off of NBA Hardwood Classics. All people my age have of these legends are basically YouTube highlights. I’m not saying that’s a good way to judge how good someone was though. I know some young guys that will say that someone is better than the other just because they had a bette, flashier highlight tape, but I’m not that guy. Those kinds of people piss me off too.

    So I’m sorry that I’m disappointment to you for not being born in your generation. I don’t know that much NBA history, but I don’t pretend like I do.

    And I agree with mikeyv about posting those kind of topics in the "Off-topic" board.

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  • #580761
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    WizardofOz
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    I’m a young dude. I’m only 15-years-old, and I started watching basketball in 2004, so my basketball history isn’t great. Of course I would’ve wanted to watch players like Jordan, Bird, and Wilt in there prime, but I don’t have a time machine to use to travel back in time.

    I watch many classic NBA games on NBA TV, but they only show the legends BEST games. They never show the games where they struggled or faced any adversity. If LeBron makes the HOF, by the time he’s retired, you think NBA TV is going to show his 8-point game in the Finals? Never. I know legends like Jordan, Bird, and Magic struggled too, but I never saw it, so I can’t really judge their careers off of NBA Hardwood Classics. All people my age have of these legends are basically YouTube highlights. I’m not saying that’s a good way to judge how good someone was though. I know some young guys that will say that someone is better than the other just because they had a bette, flashier highlight tape, but I’m not that guy. Those kinds of people piss me off too.

    So I’m sorry that I’m disappointment to you for not being born in your generation. I don’t know that much NBA history, but I don’t pretend like I do.

    And I agree with mikeyv about posting those kind of topics in the "Off-topic" board.

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  • #581008
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Man, it is no problem not being born in a certain time period. I understand that many people will see things from a different perspective because of when they were born or introduced to the game. I think what Tuck was trying to say was that there are resources and abilities to learn more and expand ones horizons. You can see what other players accomplished, their statistics, percentages, video of the way they played.

    I urge everyone that if you want to compare players to someone from back in the day, go to basketball-reference.com and see if you are really comparing them to the right person. Look at video and see, do they really play that much alike? Kendall Marshall is a great passer, but he seems to have nowhere near the quickness, athleticism or handle of a Jason Kidd. Is he really going to accomplish what Kidd did in the NBA? Is he going to be a defensive force that shuts down a nice percentage of the court during his prime?

    Yes, these are just comparisons, but I think there are probably better ones that one could find if they do their research. It is fine to compare every player tearing it up in college or with major potential to an NBA Superstar or Hall of Famer, but the odds are that in most drafts, you are only getting a couple of those guys and maybe a few more All-Stars. Just something to take into account. I for one use basketball-reference all of the time just to be sure the information I think I remember is correct, or maybe to get even more insight on what a player was like. Everyone who posts on this site is on the internet in some form or another, so I do not think it could hurt to use basketball-reference or google as a research and educational tool on finding as much information as possible to educate yourself on players you may not know very much about.

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  • #580775
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Man, it is no problem not being born in a certain time period. I understand that many people will see things from a different perspective because of when they were born or introduced to the game. I think what Tuck was trying to say was that there are resources and abilities to learn more and expand ones horizons. You can see what other players accomplished, their statistics, percentages, video of the way they played.

    I urge everyone that if you want to compare players to someone from back in the day, go to basketball-reference.com and see if you are really comparing them to the right person. Look at video and see, do they really play that much alike? Kendall Marshall is a great passer, but he seems to have nowhere near the quickness, athleticism or handle of a Jason Kidd. Is he really going to accomplish what Kidd did in the NBA? Is he going to be a defensive force that shuts down a nice percentage of the court during his prime?

    Yes, these are just comparisons, but I think there are probably better ones that one could find if they do their research. It is fine to compare every player tearing it up in college or with major potential to an NBA Superstar or Hall of Famer, but the odds are that in most drafts, you are only getting a couple of those guys and maybe a few more All-Stars. Just something to take into account. I for one use basketball-reference all of the time just to be sure the information I think I remember is correct, or maybe to get even more insight on what a player was like. Everyone who posts on this site is on the internet in some form or another, so I do not think it could hurt to use basketball-reference or google as a research and educational tool on finding as much information as possible to educate yourself on players you may not know very much about.

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  • #581032
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    NO EZ BUCKETS
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    lmfao! you just made my day with that vid.

    And I agree with what wizardofoz said. I’m around his age and i’ve only been following the NBA since 2009 or so. I do know alot about the past players and I am always trying to learn. I agreee that some of us need to go back and see game footage and stats, but there is only so much game footage to see. I guess what I just tried to say was that nowadays I will watch(or at least try to watch) every game that’s being broadcasted, so I get a really good feel for a players game. The younger guys here didn’t/don’t have enough oppurtunities to watch older players play.

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  • #580800
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    NO EZ BUCKETS
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    lmfao! you just made my day with that vid.

    And I agree with what wizardofoz said. I’m around his age and i’ve only been following the NBA since 2009 or so. I do know alot about the past players and I am always trying to learn. I agreee that some of us need to go back and see game footage and stats, but there is only so much game footage to see. I guess what I just tried to say was that nowadays I will watch(or at least try to watch) every game that’s being broadcasted, so I get a really good feel for a players game. The younger guys here didn’t/don’t have enough oppurtunities to watch older players play.

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  • #581042
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    aamir543
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    Yeah, I am only 14, and I started watching in January of 2003, and the first game I ever watched was the first matchup between Shaq and Yao.

    I completly agree with you, cause there are many things about guys like Larry, Magic, and Nique that I have no clue about. I have tried to watch actual game footage, and that has tremendously helped my view of them, but there are still many things i don’t know about them, which is why i refrain from making false assumptions about them. But yes, It is a problem that we have stupid 14 year olds like McBasketball Guru(Not to be confused with Basketball Guru 24) assuming things and thinking that they know everything, to the point where they think they are the smartest user on NBA Draft.net.

    I personally think that although I still have much to learn about the game, that I have a pretty good and well thought out understanding of the history of the game, and the game in general. Although I can never really comment on an old timer’s style of play, I feel that I can analyze and disect and comprehend the games of the players from my time era.

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  • #580810
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    aamir543
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    Yeah, I am only 14, and I started watching in January of 2003, and the first game I ever watched was the first matchup between Shaq and Yao.

    I completly agree with you, cause there are many things about guys like Larry, Magic, and Nique that I have no clue about. I have tried to watch actual game footage, and that has tremendously helped my view of them, but there are still many things i don’t know about them, which is why i refrain from making false assumptions about them. But yes, It is a problem that we have stupid 14 year olds like McBasketball Guru(Not to be confused with Basketball Guru 24) assuming things and thinking that they know everything, to the point where they think they are the smartest user on NBA Draft.net.

    I personally think that although I still have much to learn about the game, that I have a pretty good and well thought out understanding of the history of the game, and the game in general. Although I can never really comment on an old timer’s style of play, I feel that I can analyze and disect and comprehend the games of the players from my time era.

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  • #581044
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Well i’m 33, i’ll will be 34 NEXT TUESDAY AUGUST 2nd!!!

    I’ve followed basketball for years..I remember when Jordan played at UNC..Where i was when Len Bias died..When Dr. J retired..Lorenzo Charles put back dunk…Where i was when Magic Announced he was HIV positive..So basically i know about those topics and i can talk about the conversations people had when those subjects came up…

    But dont have much to say when people start talking about the Lakers 33 game winning straight..Wilt’s 100 point game..Becuz i dont know much about those subjects,except for what i read..

    So what i’m saying i cant get upset when teens talk about Dirk’s run to a ring..Kemba taking UConn to a title..

    But i can tell guys they are wrong for riding player’s bandwagon..Now they’ll saying Dirk is the league’s best player and he’s a top 3 player..And he’s not…Last year folks were riding Durant after he helped TEAM USA win the medal..Saying he was the league’s best player…

    My complaint is with guys jumping on Bandwagon and dont know the knowledge about the game…

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  • #580812
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Well i’m 33, i’ll will be 34 NEXT TUESDAY AUGUST 2nd!!!

    I’ve followed basketball for years..I remember when Jordan played at UNC..Where i was when Len Bias died..When Dr. J retired..Lorenzo Charles put back dunk…Where i was when Magic Announced he was HIV positive..So basically i know about those topics and i can talk about the conversations people had when those subjects came up…

    But dont have much to say when people start talking about the Lakers 33 game winning straight..Wilt’s 100 point game..Becuz i dont know much about those subjects,except for what i read..

    So what i’m saying i cant get upset when teens talk about Dirk’s run to a ring..Kemba taking UConn to a title..

    But i can tell guys they are wrong for riding player’s bandwagon..Now they’ll saying Dirk is the league’s best player and he’s a top 3 player..And he’s not…Last year folks were riding Durant after he helped TEAM USA win the medal..Saying he was the league’s best player…

    My complaint is with guys jumping on Bandwagon and dont know the knowledge about the game…

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  • #581058
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    kevnix5
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    Hey Rudeboy same birthday buddy just 10 years younger.

    I agree with you guys. My knowledge of basketball is pretty limited before the 90’s.  I first started watching basketball when Jordan retired the first time actually. I remember being a Penny Hardaway fan when he first came into the league and being devastated when Hakeem Olajuwon and the Rockets swept the Magic. I remember watching Jordan’s last shot as a bull and thinking there would never be anyone even close to him again. In the early 2000’s I became a Clippers fan during the Q-Rich/D-Miles days (very exciting team to watch but wins were few and far between). I’ve tried to read lots about the history of basketball especially the NBA (Bill Simmons Book of Basketball is the most interesting book I’ve ever read). I’ve played ball my whole life and I love it more now than ever. This lockout has everyone frustrated.

    I completely agree with hating on bandwagon jumpers. I was really hating on people who jumped on the Clippers bandwagon this year because I’ve been with them for almost 10 years now and never met another fan until this winter.

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  • #580826
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    kevnix5
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    Hey Rudeboy same birthday buddy just 10 years younger.

    I agree with you guys. My knowledge of basketball is pretty limited before the 90’s.  I first started watching basketball when Jordan retired the first time actually. I remember being a Penny Hardaway fan when he first came into the league and being devastated when Hakeem Olajuwon and the Rockets swept the Magic. I remember watching Jordan’s last shot as a bull and thinking there would never be anyone even close to him again. In the early 2000’s I became a Clippers fan during the Q-Rich/D-Miles days (very exciting team to watch but wins were few and far between). I’ve tried to read lots about the history of basketball especially the NBA (Bill Simmons Book of Basketball is the most interesting book I’ve ever read). I’ve played ball my whole life and I love it more now than ever. This lockout has everyone frustrated.

    I completely agree with hating on bandwagon jumpers. I was really hating on people who jumped on the Clippers bandwagon this year because I’ve been with them for almost 10 years now and never met another fan until this winter.

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  • #581060
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    surve
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    there is no substitute for being in the magnitude of the moment, then you can have a greater appreciation…for example…I remember when KG was drafted.  I was kinda on the fence about it, because growing up I saw Moses and Dawkins play when…and although I dont remember when they were drafted, I knew they skipped college.  On one hand, I thought that if Moses did it, then others could do it.  On the other hand, I felt it was a huge risk.  Then again, on another hand…I thought that if scouts were that high on him…then why not select him #1?  Incidentally, not only was he better than the 4 drafted ahead of him, but he was the best player in the entire draft. 

    After that, jumping from HS became the norm, so then it was nothing special about it.  To me, Garnett was a pioneer….he was the Malone of my time.  So this is not a bash to the youngsters, but to be in the moment of when KG became the 1st player out of HS in 20 years, then to watch him develop into what he has become, I can have a much greater appreciation for him. 

    Its funny because to the people that consider me a youngster, they tell me, that such and such wasnt as good as so and so…and being that I never seen the player that was before my time, I would dismiss it.  Like where do these Dirk to Bird comparisons come from?  I’ve seen them both in their primes, and as unstoppable a force as Dirk is offensively, he is not even CLOSE to Larry Bird.  Thats the problem I have, anyone that tries to compare the two obviously havent seen both play…thus shouldnt attempt to even make that comparison.

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    there is no substitute for being in the magnitude of the moment, then you can have a greater appreciation…for example…I remember when KG was drafted.  I was kinda on the fence about it, because growing up I saw Moses and Dawkins play when…and although I dont remember when they were drafted, I knew they skipped college.  On one hand, I thought that if Moses did it, then others could do it.  On the other hand, I felt it was a huge risk.  Then again, on another hand…I thought that if scouts were that high on him…then why not select him #1?  Incidentally, not only was he better than the 4 drafted ahead of him, but he was the best player in the entire draft. 

    After that, jumping from HS became the norm, so then it was nothing special about it.  To me, Garnett was a pioneer….he was the Malone of my time.  So this is not a bash to the youngsters, but to be in the moment of when KG became the 1st player out of HS in 20 years, then to watch him develop into what he has become, I can have a much greater appreciation for him. 

    Its funny because to the people that consider me a youngster, they tell me, that such and such wasnt as good as so and so…and being that I never seen the player that was before my time, I would dismiss it.  Like where do these Dirk to Bird comparisons come from?  I’ve seen them both in their primes, and as unstoppable a force as Dirk is offensively, he is not even CLOSE to Larry Bird.  Thats the problem I have, anyone that tries to compare the two obviously havent seen both play…thus shouldnt attempt to even make that comparison.

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    Dude there’s way bigger things to worry about than what people are posting on this site. not everyones a basketball genius such as yourself but everyone does have the right to an opinion, right or wrong.

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    Dude there’s way bigger things to worry about than what people are posting on this site. not everyones a basketball genius such as yourself but everyone does have the right to an opinion, right or wrong.

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    I’m 40 and I’ve followed the NBA on and off for 25 years, mainly in the last 7 or so years. But when I was getting back into the game I just read up on players I might not have been aware of and with youtube and other online sites, I watched a lot of older games or ones that I missed and thus got up to speed. When Doug Collins returned as a coach, the name was certainly familar but I could not recall what he had done and a quick search revealled that he was MJ’s first NBA Head Cosch, played in the famous 1972 Olympic Final etc.

    I’ll say if I don’t know a lot about a player or may not have seen much of him so any opinions can be taken in that context.

    The one thing that does bug a lot of people is when posters start coming up with radom trades which are lopsided or maybe feature 3 all stars etc. I will post trade opinions when players are in play lets say Melo when NY were after him last season or even if you want to take it down a few levels lets say Rip Hamilton who is widely considered as being on the block.

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    I’m 40 and I’ve followed the NBA on and off for 25 years, mainly in the last 7 or so years. But when I was getting back into the game I just read up on players I might not have been aware of and with youtube and other online sites, I watched a lot of older games or ones that I missed and thus got up to speed. When Doug Collins returned as a coach, the name was certainly familar but I could not recall what he had done and a quick search revealled that he was MJ’s first NBA Head Cosch, played in the famous 1972 Olympic Final etc.

    I’ll say if I don’t know a lot about a player or may not have seen much of him so any opinions can be taken in that context.

    The one thing that does bug a lot of people is when posters start coming up with radom trades which are lopsided or maybe feature 3 all stars etc. I will post trade opinions when players are in play lets say Melo when NY were after him last season or even if you want to take it down a few levels lets say Rip Hamilton who is widely considered as being on the block.

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