Is Derrick Williams a SF or a PF?
I have been wondering this for quite awhile now. ESPN has him listed as a
small forward, but he clearly plays power forward for Arizona. His natural
position is at the power forwrad position, if he measures in at 6-7 or 6-8 that is
too small to play power forward in the NBA. So, is he capable to play the
small forward position in the NBA or is he going to be a Paul Millsap type of
player and be an undersized power forward for some team? Williams is going
to go in the top 10 most likely the top 5, so I am wondering is he capable to
play small forward in the NBA or what position do you think he is going to
he can play SF in the nba.. but he needs to hone his perimeter skills to do so
he has the length and athletism to do it
That's the way the scouts look at him. Just a talent who they feel they can plug in most situations and he'll find a way to be effective.
I think that he'll be a SF in the NBA. He has the skills to do it and most scouts will see him as a 3 than a 4.
He can be both, just depending on the system and the personel around him and which team drafts him. To me, he's better suited to be a SF, he can be a match up nightmare for smaller SFs. Defensively is where he might have problems, because he doesn't have enough lateral quickness against athletic SFs, and he doesnt have the bulk to guard PFs, but offensively he should thrive.
I agree with 4th dimension, he can play both. He would be ideal for Washington since both Blatche and Lewis do not plan on staying there long. Both could be gone in the offseason.
I heard that he should be around 6'8" or 6'9. I can't see why he can't be a David West type player.
i think he will end up playing pf. He will never be a big intimdating pf, but he will do plenty of other things to make up for it. He can step out and take bigs off the dribble and he as good as it gets making tough shots from different angles around the basket when he isnt able to simply go through his opponet.
But David West was/is a 6'8 PF who is not afraid to bang and has a refine skillset of post moves coming out of college, Derrick Williams is a face up post player, almost like Michael Beasley.
derrick williams does plenty of damage in the paint. He gets to the foul line more then any player in america and loves contact. Hes not simply sitting on the perimiter.
But what your talking about are allyoops, dunks, and using his athleticism to will against his opponents inside. I'm talking about real post moves (hook shots, backing down defenders, positioning yourself inside) and Williams doesn't posses those, David West did when he came out of Xavier, that's the difference between the two.
dissagree about the positioning himself inside part. He gets a very low base and goes up strong. But i agree that it wont be a part of his game that stands out in the nba. Hes gonna get baskets but he wont be doing much posting up vs nba bigs.
David West is 6'9 and closer to 6'10. West also got a massive 7'4 wingspan that allow him to not only play PF but C on occassion because of his length and strength.
Williams is going to measure out at about 6'9 in shoes but won't possess that massive wingspan. I see him being an Antawn Jamison type player in the leauge. Jamison played a lot of small forward early on because of his athleticism. But he also played PF because of his inside scoring prowes and craftiness around the basket. Jamison eventually put the necessary weight on and became a stretch 4. Williams career could project to arc the same. Williams does not shy away from contact under the basket and has great body control and enough strength to get shots off and draw fouls. If he goes to Washington I could see him playing the 3 spot until they move Blatche then he will move into the 4 spot. He got enough lateral quickness to guard the big 3's in the league.
David West measured 6'8 1/4" at the pre-draft measurements. He isn't close to 6'10".
I think Derrick Williams is more of a PF with some SF type skills, and I think he will be able to guard SF's as well as PF's in the NBA. Offensively if he plays PF he will create problems for opposing PF's who aren't accustomed to guarding on the perimeter. He will struggle defensively against big PF's like Gasol and will be better suited guarding guys like David West or Elton Brand. He will be able to guard bigger SF's in the league, but quick ones will give him troubles.
he is a basketball player who cares what position he plays..he will be successful whichever one he plays
Joe Alexander was also a hardworking basketball player, I think it DOES matter, specially when your projected as a top 5 pick.
he'll be a 4
Gone are the days where PFs really played with alot of for lack of a better term "power"
How many 4s is he really going to get physically dominated by? Most PFs nowadays spend most of the time at the high post, playing pick and pop. How many PFs really drop into the low box and go to work inside.
Some people talk about how he would struggle defending Gasol....Newsflash, Gasol is a top 3 PF in the NBA, not alot of guys guard him very well. Everybody struggles to guard Gasol, Griffin, Stoudemire, Nowitzki etc.
The NBA is a smaller league now. There arent physically daunting Power Forwards anymore and dominate with their size and brute force. Williams will be a 4.
And Arizona will have another top 5 pick in Derrick Williams...he is a good starting forward, nuff said...
The guy is a basketball player, he will find a place to play. He moves really well and while he may not have optimal skills for playing the 3 or the bulk you may want for someone playing the 4, he causes match-up problems with anyone guarding him on either position. Defense will be a possible set back for Derrick, but he is a smart player and has a lot of desire. He is a very fluid athlete though, moves incredibly well for a player of his size and that is why I think he finds a place in the starting line-up for some lucky team. He is incredibly efficient and works very hard, plus I think he will be content with playing a role in the NBA rather than being a player that demands the ball. I do not know if he is a franchise guy, but he is versatile and can fill a need at either position which makes him very valuable in this draft. He does not have the offensive skill set of Michael Beasley, but I find his versatility may be similar and that he will probably be much less of a defensive liability. If I need a forward in this draft though, I would be very happy taking Williams as a top 5 team.
Antawn Jamison anyone?
Antawn Jamison anyone?
Actually David west is a good 6'9 closer to 6'8. And 6'7 isn't too small to play PF or even Center in the NBA these days