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- Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 2:24pm #26819
OhCanada-ParticipantDerrick Williams is not a SF and will never be a good SF in the league. He is not comfortable playing the position, and never really has. He plays out of the post effectively, and abuses opposing frontcourt players with his great athletisism for a frontcourt player. He will always be an undersized PF with great athletisism, that does not mean he should play SF to compensate for his weakness’s. Teams selecting him should take notice of this, and also take notice of the fact that he will most likely never average more then 8-rebound per game. I would like to compare him to a more athletic, poor mans, David West. I have no clue why he is number one on this sites mock draft but I gaurentee that will change, as I also gaurentee he does not get drafted 1st overall and likely slips to 6th or 7th.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 2:42pm #509237
kobyzParticipantdefinitely a PF, i think i found a good comparison for him: shorter Rasheed Wallace.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 2:55pm #509241
llperezi was saying last year he would be better ioff as a sf in the nba, but i have completely changed my mind, he will be a pf in the nba. And to kobyz, dont really like the rasheed comparison, dwill is all about moving around the court and finding the holes in the defense and taking guys off the dribble using his speed.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 3:02pm #509242
kobyzParticipantllperez what you describe that was the young Rasheed Wallace who used to play in the post taking guys of the dribble, money with his midrange jumper and also could shoot threes…0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 3:03pm #509243
llperezi watched rasheed entires career, his biggest strength was never ball handling and blowing by slower pfs
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 3:11pm #509245
kobyzParticipantso you think Amare Stoudemire compariosn is better?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 3:16pm #509247
llperezamare is a solid comparison in terms of style althoug we are getting ahead of ourselves to suggest dwill will be on amares overall level as a player. i dont know, dwill is just kinda unique.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 3:17pm #509248
The lake show2I agree. People just wont admit it just like they won’t admit Perry Jones is or ever will be a SF. He’s not Tmac or Odom. He takes it coast to coast once or twice and everyone wanted to label him a SF even though his handles are shaky with pressure and his jumper has no consistent range nor does he have any moves on the perimeter.
Derrick at least has a jumper but he hasn’t shown consistently that he can operate away from the basket just like Perry Not that it matters since both are tall and long enough to play PF
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 3:19pm #509250
OhCanada-ParticipantKobyz how do you immediatly go from Wallace to Stoudemire, stop guessing and watch him play a couple games lol. Although Stoudemire is a good comparison as far as how he gets his points and where, he will never be that athletic, tall, or productive. A shorter, less athletic, poor mans Stat is an okay comparison. I just think Williams gets alot of..non prety buckets from grinding down low, and relies on the post alot. Reminds me of an athletic West.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 3:50pm #509275
ilike.panochasParticipantLol @ the Rasheed Wallace comparison. Wallace was/is so much longer than Williams, at 6’11 he was actually long enough to play some Center.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 3:59pm #509282
MkadozaParticipantI’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. Derrick Williams is exactly like Antawn Jamison in body type and skill set.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 4:00pm #509283
llperezjamison is a great comparison
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 4:35pm #509295
juicejc1ParticipantHe’s just a basketball player, if your a team you draft him and figure the rest out later, the guy just knows how to play.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 5:59pm #509324
esperanzafleet69Participanti hate to say it but if david west was more athletic he would be so so good.. the comparison of a more atheletic poor mans david west doesnt really make much sense.. theres no player in the league like derrick williams that i can think of, and hes not really like david west at all.. he was like a way better, more atheletic version of george lynch in terms of style of play…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:08pm #509326
ilike.panochasParticipantThere was one but he’s long been retired, LaPhonso Ellis. And George Lynch was a defensive specialist more than anything
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:10pm #509328
OhCanada-ParticipantMore athletic Davud Wesr but a less skilled David West, less work ethic, less ball IQ, etc. I dont like Jamison as a comparison, I think Jamison has alot more SF skills then Williams. Jamison is also thinner, longer, and taller.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:40pm #509334
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantKeep sleeping on that man, I hope he proves a lot of people wrong about him…lmao u guys compared him to Jamison…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:52pm #509336
Dale WorthingtonParticipantScare Crow, mah man, Jamison has put up a really nice career.
Any team drafting Williams would be very happy with him putting up Jamison numbers.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 7:14pm #509340
ghettosermonParticipantHe reminds me a ton of Jeff Green at Georgetown. The thing that I think might make Williams more successful is that he’s longer than Green and a better rebounder. Funny thing is as a prospect I thought Green was a surefire PF in the Jamison mold. Now though it appears that Green can be a very good pro SF and is too undersized to be a consistently great PF. Williams however I think can be an effective pro PF.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 7:43pm #509347
MkadozaParticipantJamison had the same level of SF skills as a junior that Williams does now. And I hope Williams isn’t shorter than 6’7.75" without shoes. But again, their soft touch around the basket, quick leaping ability, offensive rebounding and deep range puts him in the Larry Johnson/Glen Robinson role. Or an Antoine Walker who cares. Or a Z Bo in shape. His skill set leads itself to many paths. How much he hones his skills will determine what kind of player he becomes.
0- Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 11:12pm #509368
TheLastWordParticipantI like Williams, but for his supporters tell me how is his game different than Beasley’s? I guarantee they are the same size, so it seems he will struggle to rebound and score in the post much like Beasley has. With Minnesota, Beasley has moved to SF where he has became slightly above average, hardly worth a top 5 pick though. Convince me Williams won’t follow the same fate as Michael Beasley.
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- Posted on: Sat, 03/12/2011 - 11:20pm #509370
llperezdont know who will be better but beasley and williams are compeltely diffenet players, dont play alike.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/13/2011 - 4:13am #509374
kobyzParticipanti think at best case scenario he is Amare Stoudemire(a little smaller) but i think at the much realistic scenario he is Shareef Abdur Rahim
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/18/2011 - 1:38am #510880
HeroescantdieParticipantDerrick can play the 3 position in the nba, but the only knock on him was his lateral quickness, he can’t stay in front of elite sf’s like lebron james and kd, but he can play the 3, I like the beasley comparison, they have the same game pattern which is inside and ou. Beasley paly Pf in college and now he is learning to play the 3 in the nba, i hope that derrick transition to sf in the nba would be smooth like Beasley. I know that they produce differently in college, beasley was a beast and williams is just an avg star player but they hane simmilar games
0 - Posted on: Fri, 03/18/2011 - 3:18am #510884
delfamParticipantanyone think he should lose some weight? Would make him quicker and be able to guard NBA SF’s.
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