Derrick Rose To Seek Max Contract
"Derrick Rose has told he will seek a max contract worth nearly $150 million over five years this offseason in free agency from the New York Knicks. Rose will only be able to sign a four-year deal with a rival club".
Wow. He's either totally insane or has weird kind of humor. The salaries are way off to ridicoulos numbers to bad/average players, but C'mon Derrick...
If he just wanted leverage I think he's rather scaring teams off...
At best, he's as valuable as Deron Williams was joining the Mavs after being cut from Brooklyn. And that's not even close to the max, may 130.000 All Star voters won't agree, but that's also stands by me.
If I was a team I wouldn't touch him. At this point he's clearly overvaluing himself and is really only adding to the drama that seems to follow the Knicks nowadays. Yeah it's sad that injuries prevented him from being the player he used to be and could've been, but the game's a business
So in the same day there's news that Derrick Rose was thinking about quitting basketball altogether yesterday and that he expects a max contract next year?
The guy is just really annoying to me. I know he has had a very tough career with his injuries, but he's got to tone it down with the self-pity and drama, he's not the only one in the league with serious injury problems, somehow others handle it much better.
Either Rose is the world's biggest optimist or is completely out of touch with reality. I'd be surprised if he gets anything more than a two year deal (mutual option for second year) considering all the issues he's had over the past five years. I don't know if he's a head case or just a moron who is completely oblivious to how the rest of the league views him as a player and professional.
I believe Derrick Rose has a social disorder , Ive been around him a few times early in his hs days and pro career a lot of different traits of his that gives me the impression he has a mild form of autism or something close to it.. I dont want to get into specifics of how I know because hes a good person.. He just doesn't know how to handle the media and attention.. Ever wonder why hes been sheltered and protected by his brother? Or why someone else took his ACT?
Hey Robb C - you often post insider info on a player or situation on here. Just wondering how you're so connected to basketball at the AAU, HS & college level?
I grew up around the game, Which allowed me to information at very young age.. I always have been extremely passionate about the game of basketball, which naturally allowed me to make friends around it.
He does display signs of Anxieties/ Mental issues. if so I hope he doesn't use it as a excuse. We have already been set back on this issue with the damage that players like Royce White did. (This is a real ailment that needs to be treated seriously)
For me, even though still serviceable, he's one of the worst starting PGs in the NBA, and thus will not get a contract that pays him north of maybe 10-12 million annually and definitely not longer than 2 years due to injury concerns unless he dramatically improves his defense and 3-pt shot in the second half of the season. I'm not overly optimistic, though. And he's not helping himself with these shenanigans.
Sadly for us Knicks fans Phil Jackson is so dumb I bet he probably gives it to him.
Lol, Phil Jackson dumb? Why because he gave Melo a contract instead of letting him walk? Okay, that was dumb, but you probably would have been pissed had Melo left for nothing.
Is he dumb because he drafted Porzingis? I'm sure you were booing him on draft night.
Phil Jackson has taken a piss poor, overrated and terribly run franchise and made them better. Not great, but let's be honest... Knicks have only ever been great a handful of times in their long history anyways.
Lol yeah 17-22 is so much better. If he would have had a top 3 pick in the draft that year he would have certainly taken Okafor or Russell over Porzingis. And I did not boo. I loved the pick you can go back in my posts on this site and see that. Unfortuntely that's about the only good thing he's done.
The Tyson Chandler for Calderon, Larkin, Dalembert, Ellington and two 2nds (Cleanthony Early and Greek Freak's bro) was a disaster. None of the players in that trade are currently on the roster, and handicapped the team from making other moves in the years that they were (Calderon specifcially). Meanwhile Denver traded an inferior player at the time, Timofey Mozgov, to the Cavs for 2 (!!) first round picks the next season.
He then proceeded to give away JR Smith and Iman Shumpert for absolutely nothing of value. They went to the Cavs and became integral pieces of a championship roster in Cleveland.
I won't even go into the Melo resigning because I can't really fault him, but it's been not even been half a year and the huge contracts he's given out in free agency to Joakim Noah and Courtney Lee have been abject disasters, and will hamstring the team and the development of Porzingis for years to come.
And that's just the transactions. He's carried himself like a complete buffoon, picking fights with the league's top stars and his own players, and insisting the team stick to a preshistoric system that went out of style over a decade ago.
But yeah he's doing a great job bro.
All the people who defend Jackson as a good GM only bring up him drafting Porzingis as a reason why. It's really annoying, give the scouts credit for that.
And as said above, they ignore all his BONEHEADED blunders. I still can't believe there is a GM in the right mind who would give up JR Smith AND Iman Shumpert for basically nothing. Shumpert had so much value then he was actually rummored to be on the block for KENNETH FARIED.
And then he gave up the player back then everyone hoped to have on their team which is a defensive anchor in Tyson Chandler for CALDERON AND LARKIN. Wow. Chandler for Calderon and Larkin, think about that.
Phil Jackson is a stupid GM and I can't believe there are still these people like Magic Jordan defending him. Crazy.
Agreed. A lot of people forget that Porzingis made it loud and clear where he wanted to play before getting drafted (Knicks). And had the Knicks got a pick inside the top 3, they likely wouldn't have drafted him.
Jackson's decision making is questionable on many axes that's true. But he clearly said the coach he wanted was Steve Kerr, arguably a good one. Both Fisher and Hornacek were kind of backup options. He still should be able to net a better coach than that but a lot of the issues come with his triangle stubborness.
In the draft, despite Porzingis I would say that Hernangomez was a very decent pick in the second round as well. Jerian Grant, Cleanthony Early and Thanasis more questionnable ones but bets I still think were good ones. So far his draft selections have been good.
The Derrick Rose trade to me was a decent bet. It's not going that well but it's not an issue with him a FA this summer.
The Joakim Noah contract has been the stupidest thing ever. Since day 1. He should have waited a lot on this one to see where contracts would stabilize in the summer. Too much hurry.
All in all that's far from good so far. I want to see him solve the issues this team have fast. If he somehow can trade Carmelo and/or Noah without giving up major assets: great.
I also think he should perhaps take the good risks. I know I may sound hypocrit with this and how much I trashed the guy, but I genuinely think that if this year Knicks pick is not top 10, he should trade it for Jahlil Okafor. Okafor struggles yes, but he still is a better project than someone outside the top 10 and Philly desperately would accept that kind of trade. It might even be a better time to call it now and get rid of Lance Thomas contract in the process.
All in all, he has done more bad than good that's for sure, but nothing terrible apart from Noah's contract. But this alone is not acceptable.
Derrick Rose is an idiot. Some of the things he says has me question his abillity to think.
Max contract? Where, China..?
Magic Jordan seeks max contract in 2017.
It's almost like he is trying to get the Knicks to trade him.
at first i thought he must be crazy thinking he will get that. but then i start to think about some of the front offices around the league and think there is a chance one might give him around max money trying to make a big splash. but even so its still unlikely. he seems to be struggling mentally as of late. i hope he can get some help. i am no doctor but robb c i can see why you would think that. from what i see of him i do see some mild autistic traits.
and yet you can't even show up for a job that doesn't require you to work for the whole year? GTFO dude.
His numbers are literally RIGHT BEHIND Mike Conley's who got a similar contract to the one he's asking for ......just saying
Not saying Mike Conley should be getting paid $153 million dollars but he is much more valuable to the Grizzlies than Rose is to the Knicks and would be worth way more to any team than Rose would be to any team. The game is more than numbers.
He's a worse passer (4.4 APG to 6 APG), can't shoot the 3 ball (averaging 0.4 threes a game on 25% shooting to Conley's 2.3 threes a game and 41% shooting) and is a poor defender while Conley is one of the best defensive PGs in the game.
There's a pretty wide gap between the two without even taking into account the intanglibles that Conley brings to that Grizzly team.
Bulls should have taken Westbrook lol
I wasnt using Conley's contract to justify him wanting the max. I was simply saying if he sees someone like Conley getting huge deal like that then he could get one or close to it. And yes Mike Conley IS overpaid even in the new CBA.