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deron williams is the best point guard in the league

quickness, athletic, jump shot, size, sick crossover, and destroys cp3 evertime he plays him


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hes the best scoring pg in

hes the best scoring pg in the league but i give Paul the slight edge because of defense and playmaking.

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hes not even an allstar :) i

hes not even an allstar :) i love dwill and it still amazes me he hasnt made the allstar game yet

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I wouldnt complain

I would not complain if I had either of them on my team. Both great pick and roll PGs as well. D will a little more physical and bigger. CP3 slight edge on the defense and playmaking so I say toss up.

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paul gambles a lot on

paul gambles a lot on defense similar to iverson but d will has size, qiuckness, and strength to stay in front of the ball

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agreed

The reason why Deron Williams isn't an all star is because he plays in a small market like Utah. I've seen him play CP3 a couple of times and he is the better of the two when they play. Chris Paul had that great year in 2007-08 but D-Will has the perfect combination of size and speed.

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"That great year"
Chris Paul had one great year? Paul had his best season last year and has had the best start to a career of any point guard since Magic Johnson.
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Naww

The reason he wasnt an all-star THIS season, is because he was hurt and he wasnt as good as he was the year before. He isnt the best PG either, Chris Paul is definitely better. Once again (like the Wade v. Lebron agruement) its close but Cp3 is better

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watch out chalmers

Mario Chalmers needs to worry about not losing his spot to Chris Quinn before being considered better than D-Will.

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Finally

a post about my fav point guard. Yes he is the best and most underrated point guard in the L. he gets no credit for wat he does for his team and becuase of my lakers he is always being ousted in the playoffs. but if u notice whenever he plays in the playoffs against the lakers he always has a fantastic series and leaves hs mark on the opposing teams point guard. I can guarantee deron williams would not have been destroyed by chauncey billups this year in the playoffs the way CP3 was. Another reason he doesnt get a lot of accolades is because of the system the Utah Jazz have. they run an offense where the ball is moved around a lot where as CP3's offense is pretty much predicated on CP dribble driving and dishing and scoring. D-Will deserves his 1st all star appearnce this year and if he is healthy he will get t

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Chalmers the best? WTF?

dis iz a joke rite? and dude how long hav u been watchin' NBA games 2 come with that idea

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underrated...how u

underrated...how u figure..they talk about dwill all the time..hes far from underrated people know about him game and gives him the respect..he wasnt a all star this year because he was hurt..last year he didnt play as well on top of being in the west..(paul,nash)

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D-will

na he's reely good but he's not better than cp3, even tho he duz own cp3 wen it comes 2 head to head match ups, and for his size he doesn't rebound that well and as far as point guards only CP3 can and has put up like 30 pts. 11 ast. 5-8 rebs. and like 2-4 stls.

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CP3

I like playing with D-Will on 2k9... But really? Chris Paul was 2nd in MVP voting last year... This dude provides things that D-Will don't... Who had the most triple-doubles? At 6 feet that says alot... He won more games than D-Will, have more accomplishments than D-Will, and a better OVERRALL game than D-Will and you dare to say D-Will is better? Am I dreaming? D-Will is nice, but he's not there yet... I was talking to Bob Huggins in Cincinnati maybe a year ago and he said CP3 is the best PG he's ever seen... I wouldn't go that far, but hopefully you would understand how much better CP3 is than D-Will...

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I am a big Deron Williams

I am a big Deron Williams fan and have been since his college days, as Illinois is one of my favorite teams. He is a great and underratedplayer. I think at this point and time, Paul is the better player. I think he makes those around him better than Williams does. I would take either one. It's pretty much a coin toss. I do believe within the next 2 seasons, Derrick Rose will be mentioned in the same sentence, and you would need a three-headed coin to choose the best point guard in the NBA. Rose is a winner and brings the most athletisism to the position I have seen. Their match-ups in the future will be fun to watch.

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you cant sleep on Rose hell

you cant sleep on Rose hell be a beast in a few years.

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order

The order goes:::
Williams
Paul
Billups
Westbrook
Rondo
Derrick Rose
Nelson
Parker
Chalmers
Devin Harris
B. Davis
Aaron Brooks
Mike Bibby
Rodney Stuckey

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you cant put Chalmers ahead

you cant put Chalmers ahead of Harris. Chalmers is the better defender but Harris doubled his scoring avarege.

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D-Will

I like D-Will better because he not only has the same skill level of cp3 but he is also much stronger which allows him to funnel guards into the weakside help. He's so strong he'll just chest his man out of the paint and allow help to come over so he doesn't need outstanding lateral quickness. CP3 doesn't play defense like that, he just picks off passes, he's so short and weak that during the play-offs chauncey had his way because he coudn't contest his jumper, or close off his drives. Deron doesn't receive a lot of attention because he doesn't run the show 48/82, if Deron were forced to create like Paul then he would probably put up the same numbers.

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Deron Williams

D-Will doesn't get as many rebounds because he gets back on defense instead of going for the offensive rebound. That is what Jerry Sloan wants from his point guard.

That's why guards are called guards. Because they guard the backcourt.

If Sloan was 30 years younger he might want D-Will to rebound instead of guard the backcourt but he is too old to change his ways now.

I think Deron Williams is better than Chris Paul. But I'm a jazz fan so I might be biased.

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what about Nash

Why isn't Steve Nash in that list you can't tell me that Aaron Brooks or even Russell Westbrook is better than the two time NBA MVP. Nash should be no lower than 5.

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Nash

He kind of fell off everybodys radar when Phoenix didn't make the playoffs.

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josh and tuck

josh ucant seriously say that williams gets more exposure than cp3? hell derrick rose, tony parker, rajon rondo, chancey billups all those guyts got more exposure than deron did this year. the only guy on telelvision 2 guys on television that truly give deron his due are mark jackson and charles barkley. but u are right he was hurt most of the year nd that did have an effect on him. as for tuck u said cp game is better. cp does finish better than deron. he damn sure cant shoot better than deron!! and as 4 his accomplishments again u have to look at the offenses. as daballa said earlier deron does not have the ball all the time. once deron passes the half court line the ball starts movin and everyone is setting screens including deron. Cp on theother hand runs pick and roll every play or isolations. he controls the ball the entire game. put deron in a different offense where he gets more free reign and u may be suprised at wat numbers he puts up

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D Will

I've been a huge D Will fan ever since his days at Illinois....i loved how his game has progressed over the years. while i respect CP3s game, i am not as a big fan. but if you look at stats, CP3 is considered the "best" point guard in the NBA, he's had 2 of the best years for a pg in history. but i just think D Will has shined just as good when CP3 gets all/most of the love from everyone. how many guys can say they were 2nd team all NBA and not make an all star team? he'll make his 1st all star team this year for sure, continue to lead the Jazz and hopefully get them deep into the playoffs as well. the debate of the best PG will go on for years but D Will got my vote

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great point

dwill did make 2nd team and wasnt in the all star game. i feel like fans just havent seen enough of him until he is playing the lakers in the playoffs. at the same time i think if they ever show dwill vs cp3 when their teams play each other that may jus be sumthing that gets deron over the hump. it will be another destruction case

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DWILL

I have watched 99% of the jazz games since 1981. DWill is a great pointgaurd I don't care about recognition. The last 3 years dwill has been overlooked for the so called Allstar game Dwill lights the fire within! and has a superstar 2nd half of the season. As a Jazz fan I hope Dwill gets overlooked every year!

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its because dwill was hurt

its because dwill was hurt for alot of the first half of the season...the other season he either wasnt ready at first or nash and paul and parker were putting up better numbers...it was just a log jam thing..

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dwill

is a team player. The first half of the season he observes the players on the team, learns their tendencies so the will play down the strech as a team.

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Deron

Deron is good,but I don't see him getting any better,he peaked if he is the best it won't be for long

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huh..when did you see me

huh..when did you see me type the words dwill gets more exposure then paul????..i said dwill isnt underrated..people know about him the leauge knows about him..he didnt make the olympic team because no one knew about him...the first half of this season he was hurt alot...he is a great team player ..sometimes he does need to take over the game more because utah needs that so hes too unselfish sometimes....people dont realize when you say someone should make the all star team that means for the most part someone from there position has to be taken off...in the past nash was a beast as well as paul and parker...this year woul dhave been dwills year if he wasnt hurt since nash took a step back and will probably take another one next year...patience grasshoppers patience

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dwill

Rose had to under cut him in a pre season game to gain recognition! Josh I understand what your thrower out. Last year was supposed to be dwill's year. Nash is done with allstar games. Parker is a spur. Paul is Paul an allstar. If Dwill is hurt this years first half who is the other point gaurd all star.

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maybe kidd if hes still in

maybe kidd if hes still in the west..paul will be there as well as parker.....maybe westbrook,baron davis(if healthy)..chauncy billups

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Is Devin Harris even a true

Is Devin Harris even a true point guard?

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ummm yeah..he finds the open

ummm yeah..he finds the open man creates oppurtunity for them as well as getting 7assist a game when he doesnt have alot of scores around him.

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wait a min...

what u mena not a lotta scorers? he had VC, so a legit wing, n brook lopez, a big man with an actual inside game... what else does a PG need??

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Oh ok. Don't watch many

Oh ok. Don't watch many games from him. I just always see him score a lot of points.

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vince is one..brook avered

vince is one..brook avered 13pts a game...i guess if you call that a great threat on offense..if thats the case there are aloooooooooooot of scores in the nba

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scorers...

i was talkin more bout the TYPES of players with scoring ABILITY that lopez had around him... just bec he averaged 13 ppg doesnt mean he cant score... look at his minutes played... prorate that over 48... he did pretty well...

stats like ppg are so overrated... if lopez had been more than the third option im pretty sure he'd have scored more... but i digress... basically i reiterate the point that harris had everything a PG needed to average his assist numbers.. it wasnt nethin spectacular... he had a talented wing, a big who liked the post and had a multifaceted game... people to run on the break with him n spot up 3 shooters for whn harris would drive n kick... so not seeing how he wa slacking of weapons...

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yeah that 48min prorated

yeah that 48min prorated thing is overratted also..this wasnt about who has scoring ABILITY because most nba players have that this is about who actually does it...harris didnt have alot of guys whoSCORED on a consistant bases other than vince..and brook on a lower level which made harris assist numbers look that much better who he only has one other real scorer...in conclusion like the point i made before harris is a pg point blank...and thats the end for me on this fourm

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