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- Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:22pm #21336
Charlie SheenParticipantTop 5 teams to win the NBA Championship in order
1. Lakers
2. Celtics
3. Magic
4. Spurs
5. HeatHeres why
Lakers- Bryant, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Bynum, Fisher, Blake, Brown, Barnes, Ratliff, Ebanks, Caracter, Vujacic and Walton
Celtics- Rondo, Pierce, Garnett, Allen, O’Neal, O’Neal, Perkins, Bradley, Robinson, West, Davis, Wallace??, and Wafer
Magic- Howard, Pietrus, Lewis, Carter, Nelson, Richardson, Duhon, Gortat, and Bass
Spurs- Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Splitter, Anderson, Blair, Hill, Jefferson, and McDysse
Heat- James, Wade, Bosh, Miller, Haslem, Chalmers, Z, Pittman, House,
The 1st 4 have good depth solid 8-10man rotations while Miami can only go 5-7 deep
which team would u have
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:31pm #394955
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantLMFAO.
The Heat have 3 top 13 players in the NBA. Even if you wanna use that example. The last team to really win a title with that was like the 80’s Celtics/Lakers.
It should be Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Magic, Spurs
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:31pm #394972
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantLMFAO.
The Heat have 3 top 13 players in the NBA. Even if you wanna use that example. The last team to really win a title with that was like the 80’s Celtics/Lakers.
It should be Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Magic, Spurs
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:47pm #394969
stanford hoopsRight now heat aren’t over celtics untill they prove it on the court. Just threw players aren’t gonna cut it against the big four and shaq
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:47pm #394985
stanford hoopsRight now heat aren’t over celtics untill they prove it on the court. Just threw players aren’t gonna cut it against the big four and shaq
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:53pm #394973
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI would take
James, Wade, Bosh, Miller over Pierce, Allen, Rondo, Garnett
The bench is the biggest factor.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:53pm #394990
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI would take
James, Wade, Bosh, Miller over Pierce, Allen, Rondo, Garnett
The bench is the biggest factor.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:59pm #394987
stanford hoopsDoNt matter untill they get experience together and everyone adjust to there roles. Just throwing guys together doesn’t make you automactally better then a championship team like the celtics
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 3:59pm #395004
stanford hoopsDoNt matter untill they get experience together and everyone adjust to there roles. Just throwing guys together doesn’t make you automactally better then a championship team like the celtics
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 4:16pm #395020
Im Your FatherParticipantPersonally I think that the Heat are the favorites and the most likely to bring home the Championship, but I see how you could make a case for Boston, Orlando and LA to be ranked higher, at least for now. However, there is absolutely no way that the Spurs are better than the Heat. None.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 4:16pm #395003
Im Your FatherParticipantPersonally I think that the Heat are the favorites and the most likely to bring home the Championship, but I see how you could make a case for Boston, Orlando and LA to be ranked higher, at least for now. However, there is absolutely no way that the Spurs are better than the Heat. None.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 4:20pm #395022
stanford hoopsI definatly don’t see them better then the lakers. If both teams are healthy bynum kills there big men. And odom kills hasleem. Phil out coaches Erick
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 4:20pm #395005
stanford hoopsI definatly don’t see them better then the lakers. If both teams are healthy bynum kills there big men. And odom kills hasleem. Phil out coaches Erick
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 4:44pm #395030
sheltwon3ParticipantIn one season Heat are not going to be the top team because they still lack positions
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 4:44pm #395048
sheltwon3ParticipantIn one season Heat are not going to be the top team because they still lack positions
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 5:33pm #395075
jdstormParticipanti think the heat are going to be super good, but the lack of depth is definitely a concern. the main thing is how many regular season minutes will the main guys play, And what teams begin to flagrantly foul them intentionally in a playoff series, think Bruce bowen hip check, or a rondo throwing hinrich into the scorers table.
however they are vulnerable to several teams. the teams i think could beat miami in a playoff series if both were completely healthy is. LA Lakers, Portland Blazers, OKC thunder, Houston rockets, and Milwaukee.
why some of the other favourites can’t. beat miami
Orlando; right now has no crunch time go to guy
Chicago. needs a SG, and Lebron always kills Deng
Boston. doesn’t have another athletic wing apart from paul pierce
Dallas: will choke, doesn’t have enough shooters/ or a shooting guard0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 5:33pm #395092
jdstormParticipanti think the heat are going to be super good, but the lack of depth is definitely a concern. the main thing is how many regular season minutes will the main guys play, And what teams begin to flagrantly foul them intentionally in a playoff series, think Bruce bowen hip check, or a rondo throwing hinrich into the scorers table.
however they are vulnerable to several teams. the teams i think could beat miami in a playoff series if both were completely healthy is. LA Lakers, Portland Blazers, OKC thunder, Houston rockets, and Milwaukee.
why some of the other favourites can’t. beat miami
Orlando; right now has no crunch time go to guy
Chicago. needs a SG, and Lebron always kills Deng
Boston. doesn’t have another athletic wing apart from paul pierce
Dallas: will choke, doesn’t have enough shooters/ or a shooting guard0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 5:33pm #395077
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIt is somewhat amusing that someone would think Pittman could be a part of the Heat rotation.
I’m not saying they are going to win the title. I tend to believe that the Lakers are the favorites and that the Celtics are one mid-season pickup of a wing body to help on LeBron from being really dangerous as well. I don’t think they have enough bodies to throw at LeBron (Pierce and Daniels). They need one more. He doesn’t have to be great, but someone like Rasual Butler. I can totally see a mid-season deal of Avery Bradley (who is not going to buried in Boston) and one of the small money guys (Harangody, Erden, or Wafer) for Butler. At that point, they’d be a really tough matchup. I love Rondo on Wade, and don’t think Bosh will be all that effective against Garnett and Jermaine O’Neal.
Orlando didn’t really do themselves all that well this summer, but they still have Dwight closing down the paint. They still have until mid-February to improve their roster. Bad contracts are up and down the roster, and they need Jameer Nelson to be too important for my liking.
I am excited about the Spurs with Splitter there to lessen the burden on Duncan. It has been so unfortunate that they have been so reliant on Matt Bonner and a washed up Antonio McDyess. DeJuan Blair is a nice regular season toy, but he is completely irrelevant against the Lakers. Splitter could really help them out. If James Anderson can simply be a solid defender and able to catch-and-shoot effectively, they can really bounce back.
I will say this, however, depth only becomes an issue if LeBron or Wade are not healthy come the playoffs. A regular season ten of LeBron, Wade, Miller, Bosh, Anthony, Z, House, Haslem, and Chalmers is as good as anyone. Even if Z plays 50 games, they still have Juwan and Magloire before trotting out the rookie. I have concerns about them staying healthy because of the intensity level of their 82 game slate, but it has to play out.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 5:33pm #395094
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantIt is somewhat amusing that someone would think Pittman could be a part of the Heat rotation.
I’m not saying they are going to win the title. I tend to believe that the Lakers are the favorites and that the Celtics are one mid-season pickup of a wing body to help on LeBron from being really dangerous as well. I don’t think they have enough bodies to throw at LeBron (Pierce and Daniels). They need one more. He doesn’t have to be great, but someone like Rasual Butler. I can totally see a mid-season deal of Avery Bradley (who is not going to buried in Boston) and one of the small money guys (Harangody, Erden, or Wafer) for Butler. At that point, they’d be a really tough matchup. I love Rondo on Wade, and don’t think Bosh will be all that effective against Garnett and Jermaine O’Neal.
Orlando didn’t really do themselves all that well this summer, but they still have Dwight closing down the paint. They still have until mid-February to improve their roster. Bad contracts are up and down the roster, and they need Jameer Nelson to be too important for my liking.
I am excited about the Spurs with Splitter there to lessen the burden on Duncan. It has been so unfortunate that they have been so reliant on Matt Bonner and a washed up Antonio McDyess. DeJuan Blair is a nice regular season toy, but he is completely irrelevant against the Lakers. Splitter could really help them out. If James Anderson can simply be a solid defender and able to catch-and-shoot effectively, they can really bounce back.
I will say this, however, depth only becomes an issue if LeBron or Wade are not healthy come the playoffs. A regular season ten of LeBron, Wade, Miller, Bosh, Anthony, Z, House, Haslem, and Chalmers is as good as anyone. Even if Z plays 50 games, they still have Juwan and Magloire before trotting out the rookie. I have concerns about them staying healthy because of the intensity level of their 82 game slate, but it has to play out.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 5:39pm #395085
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI think Splitter could give Duncan another solid playoff series. He should be able to allow Duncan’s legs to rest just a bit. I’m one of the rare people who believe you get the pieces around Duncan that he could still carry you to a title.
I wouldn’t discount the Heat getting a buyout player. We don’t know who’s out there but maybe a guy like Erick Dampier is in play I believe. That would be a huge addition to Miami because he could play solid down low PT. Also, don’t count out someone like Jeff Foster or Dan Gadurzic or even Vlad Radmonovic ( Do I believe they get cut? No but we never know these days)
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 5:39pm #395102
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantI think Splitter could give Duncan another solid playoff series. He should be able to allow Duncan’s legs to rest just a bit. I’m one of the rare people who believe you get the pieces around Duncan that he could still carry you to a title.
I wouldn’t discount the Heat getting a buyout player. We don’t know who’s out there but maybe a guy like Erick Dampier is in play I believe. That would be a huge addition to Miami because he could play solid down low PT. Also, don’t count out someone like Jeff Foster or Dan Gadurzic or even Vlad Radmonovic ( Do I believe they get cut? No but we never know these days)
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 5:49pm #395099
NYCrealdealParticipantwen a team has 2 of the best 3 players in the league depth really dont matter
and another top 15 player
minutes at the 2 3 and 4 will be VERY limited
bad player become decent with great players
decent become good
good become great
ex. rondo0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 5:49pm #395116
NYCrealdealParticipantwen a team has 2 of the best 3 players in the league depth really dont matter
and another top 15 player
minutes at the 2 3 and 4 will be VERY limited
bad player become decent with great players
decent become good
good become great
ex. rondo0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 6:09pm #395120
billykParticipantThe Heat are gonna be blowing out teams on most nights, so the stars (Wade,James,Bosh) will be getting alot of rest during the regular season… I dont think Rondo can guard Wade..
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 6:09pm #395135
billykParticipantThe Heat are gonna be blowing out teams on most nights, so the stars (Wade,James,Bosh) will be getting alot of rest during the regular season… I dont think Rondo can guard Wade..
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 7:27pm #395162
boxn1ParticipantDepth matters,fouls,injuries and off nights happen. Ron Artest was the best player on the floor in game 7,who expected that??? Miami is depending on some guys on both ends of the floor to go against other teams strengths. Thats asking alot. I said when the first came together that it would take them a full year to seriously compete and im sticking to it. Regular season aside of course.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 7:27pm #395177
boxn1ParticipantDepth matters,fouls,injuries and off nights happen. Ron Artest was the best player on the floor in game 7,who expected that??? Miami is depending on some guys on both ends of the floor to go against other teams strengths. Thats asking alot. I said when the first came together that it would take them a full year to seriously compete and im sticking to it. Regular season aside of course.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 7:34pm #395166
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant“I dont think Rondo can guard Wade..”
Sorely mistaken.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 7:34pm #395181
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant“I dont think Rondo can guard Wade..”
Sorely mistaken.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 7:45pm #395172
billykParticipantReally!?! Where was Rondo when Wade was averaging 33 ppg while shooting 56% aganist the Celtics in the playoffs???
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 7:45pm #395187
billykParticipantReally!?! Where was Rondo when Wade was averaging 33 ppg while shooting 56% aganist the Celtics in the playoffs???
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 7:58pm #395178
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantThose turnover numbers and blowout games don’t mean anything to you? I too was incredibly impressed with Wade’s shooting when the Heat were down 30 in Game 2. The Celtics should have never relented defensively in that spot. How about the fact that he was shooting jumpers and not playing the style he wanted to? Anything?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/05/2010 - 7:58pm #395193
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantThose turnover numbers and blowout games don’t mean anything to you? I too was incredibly impressed with Wade’s shooting when the Heat were down 30 in Game 2. The Celtics should have never relented defensively in that spot. How about the fact that he was shooting jumpers and not playing the style he wanted to? Anything?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/06/2010 - 12:11am #395228
billykParticipantRondo is a fine defensive PG, but really Wade is bigger, stronger and has the slashing ability to give Rondo all kinds of fits… Man on ball I dont think Rondo can handle Wade… Wade is WAY tooo strong off the dribble… All that reaching in SH*t wont happen against a player like Wade.. Im sure Wade was happy shooting a high percentage (with NO second option) against the Celtics…Wade carried the Heat against a SOLID Celtic team…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/06/2010 - 12:11am #395243
billykParticipantRondo is a fine defensive PG, but really Wade is bigger, stronger and has the slashing ability to give Rondo all kinds of fits… Man on ball I dont think Rondo can handle Wade… Wade is WAY tooo strong off the dribble… All that reaching in SH*t wont happen against a player like Wade.. Im sure Wade was happy shooting a high percentage (with NO second option) against the Celtics…Wade carried the Heat against a SOLID Celtic team…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/06/2010 - 2:36am #395230
HitsterParticipantThe Celtics and the Lakers have got better depth than Miami at the moment but if it comes down to the play offs then you expect Miami to play their big 3 for over 40 minutes per game each. Yet if they don’t watch their minutes in the regular season then they could risk a bit of burn out against a fresher Kobe for example.
The Celtics if they get Perkins back have a huge inside edge on Miami with him and a combo of Shaq and JO controlling the paint. They can also maybe look at using JO and Perkins on Bosh with Shaq manning the paint on occasions when KG is on the bench. KG can also perhaps look after LeBron for some parts of the game allowing Pierce to help guard D-Wade and Miller.
Boston also have the tools to match up against Dwight Howard being able to use a combination of the above.
With Miami I do wonder how their coach will handle the big 3 with maybe after they all start one goes to the bench whilst the other two remain on court. This would make the opposition coach have to decide how to handle his rotation as if you have Bosh, D-Wade and say Miller, Haslem and Chambers on court you need potential double teams on Bosh and D-Wade. But if you use your starters too much then when a fresher LeBron comes back into the game he will be facing more tired players or could cause havoc against some 2nd unit players.
The Spurs have almost always built their seasons around getting to the play offs and then increasing their key players minutes to try and progress. Tim Duncan has watched his minutes over the last few years and remains a top big man at 34 years old putting up 20/10, being a huge defensive influence and having one of the top efficiency ratings in the league. With Ginobli now 33 years old, rumours that Tony Parker may move on, Richard Jefferson not being the great 3rd option he was at the Nets and Diceman pushing 36 then the Spurs window is closing and they maybe haven’t been as effective since the likes of Bowen and Barry were traded or retired.
Luckily Coach Poppovich and Ric Burford are one of the very best Coach/GM duos in the league and with Danny Ferry returning maybe have the best front office in the NBA. They have George Hill, Tiago Splitter and James Anderson to start building around and whilst Tim Duncan is still effective then they remain a play off relevant team. Whether they can genuinely challenge again remains to be seen.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 09/06/2010 - 2:36am #395244
HitsterParticipantThe Celtics and the Lakers have got better depth than Miami at the moment but if it comes down to the play offs then you expect Miami to play their big 3 for over 40 minutes per game each. Yet if they don’t watch their minutes in the regular season then they could risk a bit of burn out against a fresher Kobe for example.
The Celtics if they get Perkins back have a huge inside edge on Miami with him and a combo of Shaq and JO controlling the paint. They can also maybe look at using JO and Perkins on Bosh with Shaq manning the paint on occasions when KG is on the bench. KG can also perhaps look after LeBron for some parts of the game allowing Pierce to help guard D-Wade and Miller.
Boston also have the tools to match up against Dwight Howard being able to use a combination of the above.
With Miami I do wonder how their coach will handle the big 3 with maybe after they all start one goes to the bench whilst the other two remain on court. This would make the opposition coach have to decide how to handle his rotation as if you have Bosh, D-Wade and say Miller, Haslem and Chambers on court you need potential double teams on Bosh and D-Wade. But if you use your starters too much then when a fresher LeBron comes back into the game he will be facing more tired players or could cause havoc against some 2nd unit players.
The Spurs have almost always built their seasons around getting to the play offs and then increasing their key players minutes to try and progress. Tim Duncan has watched his minutes over the last few years and remains a top big man at 34 years old putting up 20/10, being a huge defensive influence and having one of the top efficiency ratings in the league. With Ginobli now 33 years old, rumours that Tony Parker may move on, Richard Jefferson not being the great 3rd option he was at the Nets and Diceman pushing 36 then the Spurs window is closing and they maybe haven’t been as effective since the likes of Bowen and Barry were traded or retired.
Luckily Coach Poppovich and Ric Burford are one of the very best Coach/GM duos in the league and with Danny Ferry returning maybe have the best front office in the NBA. They have George Hill, Tiago Splitter and James Anderson to start building around and whilst Tim Duncan is still effective then they remain a play off relevant team. Whether they can genuinely challenge again remains to be seen.
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