Deng and the 29th offered to GSW for the 7th, Biedrins and Wright
i'd do it if i was golden state
It's pick #30, not #29.
Who do the bulls want? Drummond? One of the SF's to fall?
If there looking to take a baby step back to take a big step forward(playoff team to even more of a threat to win the championship), I'd take Drummond. Maybe even look at shipping off Boozer for some more youth so that Taj can develop. They would still be a good team this year, clearly not as good as two years ago, but they give Drummond a year or two to develop while D-Rose regains form. Watch out.
I'm trippppppinnnnnn! Ross or Lamb would be great fits.
It's tough though. I think GS really wants MKG, but it doesn't seem as though he'll fall to them. I guess it depends on if Jerry West has anyone else he really likes in the draft. It doesn't seem that there is anyone they really want to take at 7.
We'll see. This is a draft day type deal if it goes down.
they also losing Deng where they have no chance to find somthing even close to him in quality with the 7th and also taking on Biedrins contract? wtf?
Seems like a good deal for both teams.
The Warriors finally get rid of Biedrins and bring in a very good two way player in Deng. IF Bogut can get healthy, the Warriors would have two of the best defensive players at their positions in the league. I think they'd be a playoff team.
Biedrins has two years on his contract, but he makes sense for the Bulls considering they'll probably lose Asik to free-agency. Losing Deng hurts, but Wright is a guy who can come in and stretch the floor. They'll also get a young player under rookie scale salary.
I like the deal for both teams.
220, they will have no problem to forget about MKG if they can obtain Deng, i actually project MKG at best to be like Deng...
I like this deal for both teams. Warriors get the small forward that they covet, that they could never get with the 7th pick, they also get a small forward who is a veteran which can help this young team reach the playoffs. Now if only Bogut can get healthy. The Bulls get a 3 who can come off the bench and stretch the D while also playing good defense, as well as a backup Center incase Asik leaves via free agency. Now if only Biedrins could stay healthy as well.
The question is though who are the Bulls targeting with the seventh pick? In the article that nateoak referenced, the Bulls want a SG that can act as a cover for Rose while he recovers from ACL surgery. That means a two guard that can also play the 1 quite well. Waiters is the only 2 guard that I can think of that could do that. Or maybe they are targeting Lillard. He could play the 1 while Rose recovers from surgery and once Rose comes back they could go small with Lillard at the 2... Still don't see that working out either. (In the NBA size matters especially in the backcourt starting lineup. I don't think Lillard would work well as a 2 guard. With his size he'd have to have an extemely good first step. The kind of first step that Eric Gordon has. I haven't seen that type of player in Lillard. Waiters is the closest small two guard that I know has that other than Beal. But he isn't that great of a shooter, and who knows if he really is the next D-wade. I sure don't see that type of player in him. So targeting a 2 guard that can cover for Rose with the 7th pick just doesn't seem possible for the Bulls to find. Then again I'm not a scout so maybe Waiters really is their guy.
That could be a very competitve team. However, like someone had said in another post, I think this will be a move for the future. Over half of the coming season, Rose will be setting on the sidelines. They could try to trade Boozer for a pick in next years draft or trade him to a team looking to rebuild. If this team can become very competitve without Rose, his return could push a renewed Bulls team back into a spot to contend.
I'm just a little concerned about his injury. That's all, other than that it makes the team round out VERY well.
I think the reason the bulls would do this to Jeremy Lamb. Maybe the like how he meshed well with a scoring guard (Kemba) during UConn's championship run.
Whether the trade is good for the Bulls or not, it's gonna be tough. They lose their best defender against Lebron, Pierce, etc. making their a run to the finals tougher, but by getting Lamb, maybe they find the missing secondary scoot creator they need.
Time will tell if this trade goes down
Lamb and Ross would be great fits if they new Rose would be back earlier then mid season, but Rivers actually is a very good fit. He can basically step right into Rose's role and then slide back to SG, if/when Rose comes back. He was thought of as a top 5ish prospect earlier this year. Plus Rose plays a combo guard anyway, so two combo gaurds with different/complimenting skills and the size to both defend would be a great future.
I love the move for GS. Deng complements their backcourt and frontcourt players perfectly. He plays very good defense and he's a hard-worker. If they can get him, Curry, and Bogut to all play 70 games I think that's a playoff team.
As for the Bulls...I like D Wright as a floor stretching 3 man who also defends pretty well and would be good playing off Rose when he gets healthy he's also in the last year of a contract that's not very expensive($4.1 Mil). Biedrins will be the backup C to Noah and besides the terrible FT% he brings a lot of the same things to the table (shot blocking, can run the floor, pretty good hands running the pick & roll) they're probably gonna lose Asik in FA so they get a replacement and will save some $ to extend Gibson(who is probably more important than Asik) next summer.
With the draft pick I see them targeting a 2 guard like Lamb, Ross, Waiters... or the guy I really see there Austin Rivers. A case can be made for all of them. Lamb showed he can shine playing 2nd fiddle to a dynamic PG who is a scorer playing next to Kemba in last years championship run, he is very similar to Hamilton with more range and tools to be very good defensively. Ross can shoot the lights out from deep and mid-range, works very well cutting baseline for backdoor lobs or dump offs that would mesh well with Rose penetrating style, he's also a good defender and is versatile enough to play some 3. Waiters is strong as a bull with a very good handle and is constantly in attack mode, he has range out to the 3 and does damage in the open court, he's an aggressive defender which Thibs would surely like, and he has some PG experience as well as being a 6th man so he could start til Rose gets healthy, then go to backing up Rose and Rip come 2nd half of the season. But the guy I think they might be targeting is Austin Rivers. There's a few reasons why...being Doc's son I'm sure Thibs is very familiar with him, he's a guy that can really create his own shot which is what the Bulls said they wanted to put next to Rose to take some pressure off him...he's a worker and is very confident in himself(similar to Rose). He can shoot it with deep range(although he's not the spot up/catch & shoot guy & more of an off the dribble & streaky)...But the biggest thing is IF Rose doesn't come back to the level of his former self post-injury, Austin has the star power and personality to embrace the spotlight and be a face of a franchise type guy. If Rose is good, him & Austin create a very dynamic backcourt duo for years to come.
Lamb would be great in Chicago because he can score on and off the ball. Plus he won't have pressure of being the main scorer. He can complioment Rose like he did Kemba when they won the title at Uconn. This would be a trade that helps both teams, too.
It's not a bad trade, but I'd still be a little more hesistant to give up a Top 10 wing defender and by far your best scoring wing then the Bulls are.
As a GS fan I dont know how to take this. I love the draft and unless we package the 29, 30 and 35th, my thrill for this draft has greatly diminished. Our GM has said he wanted more experience and we have done just that if the Deng deal goes through to team with Bogut and Richard Jefferson in limited minutes. The Brandon Roy rumors may be true after all since our GM was Roy's agent. I still think our back court lacks defense as does our interior depth with David Lee
Hmm...its an actual decent roster and no one over 30.
PG Curry - Jenkins
SG Thompson - Roy???
SF Deng - Jefferson - Rush
C Bogut - Tyler
I'm thinking it maybe Austin Rivers or Jeremy Lamb.
Since an upgrade from David Lee at PF appears unlikely, the Warriors were 100% focused on drafting a SF. When it appeared neither MKG or Harrison Barnes would fall to #7, the Warriors focused on a trade for Rudy Gay (Memphis won't do), Andre Iguodala (Philly might do) or Luol Deng (the Bulls will do).
I'd absolutely love to hear the person who negged me argue my point.
I think thia is more speculation at this point. No other site has reported this and from what I last read, juwt a few hours ago, they haven't even been discussin this trade.
No idea how Y2G got negged.
Am i the only warrior fan who has concerns on the health of the team next season. Bogut, Curry and now Deng(if trade happens) all suffered injuries this past season that caused them to miss games. im not even bringing up David Lee's injury status towards then end of the season cause that shut down was more of due to the fact that they had no shot at making a run at the play-offs. seriously, with these injury risks as the team's core, we got to pirate phoenix's training staff so that we can make the play-offs.
this is a very good unit on paper and to play on 2k, but will the starting unit be more like this due to health issues?
Chicago has to be after Lamb. Deng and 29 is a small price to pay for Lamb, Wright, and Biedrins IMO.
Deng is owed like $27 million to Biedrins and Wrights $22 million. So, GState would be taking on more salary than sending out also. Golden State needs something more than #29 out of this.
People who are hating on this trade (if it happens) have to understand that if Rose is out for year then the Bulls could very well be in the same situation that the Spurs had when Robinson went down, and they drafted Tim Duncan. Now Thibs would most likely coach his team to a decent record, but they could potentially be bad, and in the lottery next year to snag another good young player on the cheap. That's what interests me most about this deal.
Neither of those guys deals are really that long, so they aren't locked into bad contracts like cleveland/orlando was when it came time to you know...keep LeBron and Dwight.
Wow, excellent point mgreener.
^^ Yeah Deng makes more money that Biedrins but he's also a very good SF. Biedrins you are throwing away money to an absolutely useless player.
You don't send out a lottery pick and take on more salary for Deng that would be a incompetent move. I don't think the Warriors GM is incompetent