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Demarcus Cousins....will he get it?

I love his game, always have. I have always worried about his mental and what kind of impact he wants to leave on the game. He is a top 10 talent, do you think he will ever dominate the game like he should and be the face of a winning team? I am on the fence but I hope he does.


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Man everytime I watch the

Man everytime I watch the Kings, I see Demarcus with the same old scowl, always getting into verbal altercations, throwing cheapshots, getting technicals, and I always wonder who wronged this guy in the past. There's a fine line between fire and passion and anger and aggression.

Some players come in and make a system with their leadership (Kidd, Garnett, Duncan, CP3). Some guys have to be made a proponent of a system, a system that preaches unselfishness and anything done, must be done for the betterment of the team. Demarcus is in the latter and he will never 'get it' until said system is put around him or he is made a part of such a system.

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FG%!?!!?

I'm past caring about his mental now. What I am more concerned about for all this talent people keep talking about he has, is how the hell he manages to get to 41% shooting from the field - or more specifically why the team has him taking (and missing) so many mid range jumpers.

After he shot under 45% last year, 41% (includes 1-10 @ PHX last night) is not good enough from a big who is supposed to be a major franchise piece with 'upside'.

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I think I would take Andre

I think I would take Andre Drummond over Cousins right now purely because one player is going to get it and improve vastly and the other is going to do the same thing he always does and complain and take bad shots. I thought maybe this would be the year that Cousins and the Kings surprised people but I was wrong.

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I've been a Cousins

I've been a Cousins apologist, but this was a big year for him and he's flopped so far.
Yeah, the team he plays for sucks, his coach sucks and he's surrounded by dumb players, but he's a big part of the problem too. He was such a gifted passer coming out of HS, maybe he should start using that skill more as opposed to continuously forcing up bad shots. He should watch some tapes of Marc Gasol and watch how he uses his passing to eventually open up his own offensive game. He's still impatient and it shows.

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And to answer the question,

And to answer the question, maybe he will get it, but if he does I doubt it happens with the Kings. That franchise is in such a sad state of affairs from top to bottom.

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Can't see it happening in

Can't see it happening in Sacramento but I can see it happening.

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Keith Smart is a terrible

Keith Smart is a terrible coach. Something needs to be shaken up, lineup wise in Sacramento. Their bench, in Jimmer Fredette, Isaiah Thomas, Chuck Hayes and Thomas Robinson are constantly giving them a spark and Smart doesn't know how to capitalize on that energy.

Last night was a classic example. In the 2nd quarter, Jimmer dropped 12 points in 11 minutes and Thomas Robinson dropped 6 points in 8 rebounds in 11 minutes. Smart took a nice lead until halftime. What did he do? He benched Jimmer and Robinson the entire 3 quarter, in favor of Sacramento's classic disfunctional bunch, watched the lead completely disappear and threw them in the game when the momentum was completely zapped.

This isn't the first time he's done this. If Smart could keep his top players in check, and actually recognize what kind of bench energy he has at his disposal, then the Kings wouldn't be as bad as they are. They might be close to 500. They were 7-12 not too long ago, but now they've dropped 5 straight and Smart as pretty much on the verge of completely losing his team.

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He's talented, but the red

He's talented, but the red flags flew up for me when he was at Kentucky and kicked another player for no reason. That dude has a problem mentally. He's done nothing to prove me wrong in the NBA arguing, fighting and having problems with everyone from teammates, to coaches, to opposing players and broadcasters.

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If he was on my team I'd be

If he was on my team I'd be more worried about his level of play than anything else. If he was playing better and contributing to more wins he'd just be labeled as "edgy," "feisty" or "competitive."
He hasn't made that next step as far as understanding the game and knowing what his limitations are at this level.

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I think that he has too much

I think that he has too much feistyness. guys like rondo are labeled that and that rarely affects him. with cousins he has terrible body language and it affects him sort of often. Rondo will have 2 to 4 instances a year where he does something dumb to hurt his teams chance at winning like he did a couple weeks ago. Cousins makes those plays once a week, and he constantly has very poor body language. I think cousins might better be able to handle himself if he had the pressure of causing a winning team to lose instead of his mistakes causing a crappy to lose.

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Once a week is an

Once a week is an exaggeration.
Put him in with a better team culture surrounded by vets and he won't be so frustrated. People can call him a cancer or whatever, but you can't say that he doesn't care about losing. I think even he knows that the situation in Sac is hopeless since the organization is such a mess from top to bottom and it seems like they've been stuck in limbo for the past 4-5 yrs or so with terrible ownership. There are very few teams in the league with absolutely no direction or positive outlook. The Kings are one of them.

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People finally understand why

People finally understand why the Sixers took Turner over Cousins. Cousins in Collins system would be relegated to a Spencer Hawes or Mo Speights role because of his lack of attention to detail and overall game.

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Season of giving?

For Cousins does season of giving mean games? Chemistry means everything in basketball whether you are playing 5th grade traveling or NBA... and Cousins is a cancer at this point in his career. Stats are for losing teams.

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I don't think Cousins'

I don't think Cousins' extremely low shooting percentage is a matter of him not getting it. I think it's a matter of his below-average athleticism. I think Cousins' biggest weakness, even more than on court immaturity, is how sloppy his movements are. Nobody shots uglier jump hooks and turnaround jumpers than he does. His legs look dead and his body control is extremely poor on "skilled" moves.

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If he knew what his

If he knew what his limitations were he wouldn't attempt a number of those shots or moves. What he still doesn't get is how and when to pick his spots.

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The moves I'm talking about

The moves I'm talking about are simple jump hooks and turnaround jumpers. Not knowing one's limitations comes out in the form of shooting beyond your range too much or trying to do too many fancy moves, which Cousins does from time to time but no overly so. If knowing his limitations means he should know better than to try and score from the low block, then he's not a high impact player. I don't think he is.

Before the draft, I wasn't as sold on Cousins more because of his below-average athleticism than his maturity level. If he was 7'1, maybe he could get away without it but he's only 6'9 in barefoot. He's not a NBA freak.

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He doesn't shoot with his

He doesn't shoot with his head. He has a freakish near 7'6 wingspan and a 9'5 standing reach on a big space eating frame with natural body strength and coordination. Those dimensions are some of the best in the league.

He doesn't know his limitations as a jump shooter and when it comes to forcing the issue. There is no reason for him to be taking nearly 5 mid-range shots a game when he's shooting 30% from that area. He also plays in modes where he has his mind made up that he's trying to score as opposed to reacting to the defense and making the right play. Instead, he tries to overpower everyone and force a shot up through his defender. Like I said, he HAS the passing ability to take advantage of how he's being played. He should look to pass more, do the dirty work on the o-glass (of which he is very capable as well) and be an opportunistic big looking for garbage buckets, while mixing up his post game here and there. If he does that, his efficiency will rise and he'll again be touted as one of the better young bigs in the league, but he doesn't have the patience to wait for his opportunities. At the same time, I can't blame him for him so impatient on a team like that. Like, if he kicks the ball back out for a re-post, I highly doubt he'll get the ball back.

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The player you think he

The player you think he should try to be is Joakim Noah. There's nothing wrong with that and he has the rebounding and passing skills along with the irritant gene to pull it off. He's probably more suited for that kind of role but since he's thought of as one of the best upcoming and coming bigs despite being one of the least efficient high usage players since entering the league, he's in the featured role right now. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the athleticism and scoring skillset to be an effective featured player right now and I'm doubtful he ever will.

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Not necessarily Joakim Noah,

Not necessarily Joakim Noah, since DC is more talented than Jo is offensively, but with some of those elements.

Basically I think he needs to learn the value of the easy bucket. Even if he is the "go-to" guy, not every one of his points has to be manufactured by him. Look at a guy like TD in his prime. The majority of his points didn't come off of iso or back to the basket plays. He scored the majority of his points off of putbacks, dumpoffs, PnR, flashes, rim runs, 2ndary breaks, cutters running off of him in the post to occupy defenders, etc. Add in the points that he did manufacture and that's a relatively easy 22+ points. But then again, that would have to require playing alongside adequate play-makers, a good offensive system and smart players who know how to move without the ball... all of which the Kings lack.

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Keith Smart was harshly

Keith Smart was harshly treated by GSW but has not done a great job in Sacramento, the team has some nice young pieces but should be starting to pull together better. Cousins has so much upside and already produces nice stats ableit on a winning team, if ever someone needed a hard nosed mentor it is a guy like him.

If I was in Sac-Town, I'd approach someone like C-Web or Ben Wallace and say to them, knock this guy into shape mentally, even if it meant pulling him from the roster for a month.

The Kings could look to trade him but would not get trade value back as another lottery team would probably not want to give up a high pick to take on Cousins and contending teams would not have high picks to send back or may shy away from what they see as DMC's bad attitude.

Maybe he needs to take a leaf out of Z-Bo's book who went from a bad character guy into a solid professional in the last few years.

When you see a player like DMC, you always wonder how good he could be if he played under someone like Coach Karl or Coach Poppovich for example. I'm not suggesting he be traded to those teams just saying they would get so much more out of him.

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Umm I would choose two people

Umm I would choose two people better then Webber and Ben.....lol they weren't the most mentally tough people around......

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Cousins told to stay in the

Cousins told to stay in the locker room during the second half versus the Clippers last night.

Anybody know what happened?

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He got in an argument with

He got in an argument with the coach before the half.

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