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  • #57717
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m not familiar with David Blatt’s coaching style. What type of offense will he run in Cleveland? Will he run a NBA 2K isolation/hero ball style of offense or will he run more of a team oriented/move the ball type of offense that gets everyone involved? 

    We all know that LeBron is arguably the greatest hero ball player in NBA history. He’s top five in usage rate every single season. The ball begins with him and and ends with him either scoring, driving/getting fouled, shooting free-throws, getting an assist, etc. He’s a gifted passer and extremely unselfish (responsible for like 35% of Miami’s assists while on court last season), but let’s be real… The ball sticks in his hands. Last season, Kevin Love was ranked 9th in usage rate, Kyrie Irving was ranked 13th and Dion Waiters 22nd. That’s a lot of players that need the ball to be effective.

    While Irving and Love both will need to adjust their games, the biggest adjustment will have to come from Irving. The last thing I want to see though is a player with his talent be turned into primarily a spot up shooter (only shot 32% on catch and shoot 3PT last season). He’s not Bobbie Gibson, Mo Williams, Mario Chalmers or Norris Cole. The last thing I want to see is Love camped out on the three point line and looking like Chris Bosh, despite the fact he did shoot 40% on catch and shoot 3PT last season. That last thing I want to see are these two guys looking like above average role players. 

    Most of the talk has been how those players will play off of LeBron, but would it be smart for LeBron to play off of Irving and Love some? I didn’t know this, but LeBron shot damn near 50% on catch and shoot three-pointers last season. While LeBron is still not a great post player, he’s effective when he goes. I’d like to see LeBron do less with the ball in his hands and more without it. 

    What type of offense do you think Cleveland should run? 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #943898
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    draftmangt
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     This is a really good video on how Blatts offense operates  and how it will work with Lebron, Love, and Kyrieyoutu.be/W45O5nwSeCA

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  • #943764
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     This is a really good video on how Blatts offense operates  and how it will work with Lebron, Love, and Kyrieyoutu.be/W45O5nwSeCA

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  • #943909
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    I was literally about to post this very same question… 

    after watching the video.. it looks like Blatt likes to run a lot of Princeton, Kevin Love is the perfect fit for a princeton offense due to the fact hes great at shooting and passing..

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  • #943775
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    I was literally about to post this very same question… 

    after watching the video.. it looks like Blatt likes to run a lot of Princeton, Kevin Love is the perfect fit for a princeton offense due to the fact hes great at shooting and passing..

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  • #943911
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     Great video, thank you! I read an article yesterday in regards to 3 point shooting. Criteria were of 166 shooters who took at least 100 catch and shoot 3’s. Lebron was 2nd in the league at 48.8% Mike Miller was 7th at  45.9% and suprisingly Dion Waiters was 35th at 41.3% I’m very excited to see what Blatt can do with Dion this year. This Cavs offense is going to be something to watch!

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  • #943777
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     Great video, thank you! I read an article yesterday in regards to 3 point shooting. Criteria were of 166 shooters who took at least 100 catch and shoot 3’s. Lebron was 2nd in the league at 48.8% Mike Miller was 7th at  45.9% and suprisingly Dion Waiters was 35th at 41.3% I’m very excited to see what Blatt can do with Dion this year. This Cavs offense is going to be something to watch!

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  • #943933
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    A lot of people are saying he’ll run a Princeton offense because he played there. But then again, a lot of media people called Byron Scott’s offense in Cleveland a Princeton offense, but those people don’t understand basketball. I heard over and over again that a Princeton offense means “a lot of back screens,” but a backdoor cut that utilizes an off-the-ball screen is called a flex cut, and that’s not how Princeton basketball operates.

    The actual Princeton offense is centered on naked backdoor cuts. The idea is to have a ball-handler dribbling toward a teammate on the wing, and each one is either a hand-off or a fake hand-off, foot plant, back door. If you can perfect it, it’s impossible to cover because defenders will either cheat up and give up the backdoor or cheat down and give up an open perimeter shot off a hand-off.

    The 24-second clock makes it impossible to truly run Princeton offense in the NBA. The closest I’ve ever seen was Sacramento circa 1999-2003ish with Pete Carril on their bench, and even that didn’t really resemble the ’97 Princeton team with Gabe Lewullis and Brian Earl and the way they ran the naked backdoors and hand-offs to beat NC State at the Meadowlands.

    That being said, when the Cavs first started talking to Blatt, I looked up Tel Aviv’s stats the last few years and their scoring was really balanced. They usually had several guys in the 13-17 range, all with similar FGAs.

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  • #943799
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    Andrew1984
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    A lot of people are saying he’ll run a Princeton offense because he played there. But then again, a lot of media people called Byron Scott’s offense in Cleveland a Princeton offense, but those people don’t understand basketball. I heard over and over again that a Princeton offense means “a lot of back screens,” but a backdoor cut that utilizes an off-the-ball screen is called a flex cut, and that’s not how Princeton basketball operates.

    The actual Princeton offense is centered on naked backdoor cuts. The idea is to have a ball-handler dribbling toward a teammate on the wing, and each one is either a hand-off or a fake hand-off, foot plant, back door. If you can perfect it, it’s impossible to cover because defenders will either cheat up and give up the backdoor or cheat down and give up an open perimeter shot off a hand-off.

    The 24-second clock makes it impossible to truly run Princeton offense in the NBA. The closest I’ve ever seen was Sacramento circa 1999-2003ish with Pete Carril on their bench, and even that didn’t really resemble the ’97 Princeton team with Gabe Lewullis and Brian Earl and the way they ran the naked backdoors and hand-offs to beat NC State at the Meadowlands.

    That being said, when the Cavs first started talking to Blatt, I looked up Tel Aviv’s stats the last few years and their scoring was really balanced. They usually had several guys in the 13-17 range, all with similar FGAs.

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    • #943947
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      Andrew you are somewhat mistaken on what and how a princeton is set up and ran.. if you watch the video he his clearly running princeton sets.. 

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    • #943812
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      Andrew you are somewhat mistaken on what and how a princeton is set up and ran.. if you watch the video he his clearly running princeton sets.. 

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      • #944451
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        Actually, you are somewhat mistaken, as you have clearly not seen Princeton’s actual offense. People can call things “Princeton” all they want, but if they don’t match what Princeton has historically done, then they aren’t Princeton offenses.

        I did watch that video, by the way, and there was not one example of the style of continuity offense that has made Pete Carril’s offense notorious.

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      • #944316
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        Actually, you are somewhat mistaken, as you have clearly not seen Princeton’s actual offense. People can call things “Princeton” all they want, but if they don’t match what Princeton has historically done, then they aren’t Princeton offenses.

        I did watch that video, by the way, and there was not one example of the style of continuity offense that has made Pete Carril’s offense notorious.

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  • #943951
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    King Calucha
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    BBall breakdown is awesome!

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  • #943817
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    King Calucha
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    BBall breakdown is awesome!

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  • #944507
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    XYRYX
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     There was a nice interview with Blatt a while ago on grantland.com about his new job and he mentioned he likes a lot of aspects about the Princeton Offense. I think he will get everyone his touches and the shooters will see a lot of plays beeing run for them. 

     

    http://grantland.com/the-triangle/qa-cavs-coach-david-blatt-on-lebron-princeton-and-the-natural/

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  • #944372
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    XYRYX
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     There was a nice interview with Blatt a while ago on grantland.com about his new job and he mentioned he likes a lot of aspects about the Princeton Offense. I think he will get everyone his touches and the shooters will see a lot of plays beeing run for them. 

     

    http://grantland.com/the-triangle/qa-cavs-coach-david-blatt-on-lebron-princeton-and-the-natural/

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