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  • #49509
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    I don’t know much about him. Help me out. I could watch Youtube videos, but they only help so much. If you have seen him play a full game, could you give me a breakdown?

    Strengths? Weakness? What position does he play in the NBA? NBA comparison? Personality?

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  • #786219
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    Hes an outstanding ball handler and passer, especially for his size. He has great size at around 6’10. He is a pretty good shooter and continues to get better. But hes not a great athlete and is a little slow to play the 3, but not quite strong enough to play the 4 yet. Still a great prospect I think. Like you said I have not been able to see a ton of footage on him. This is my short evaluation of what I saw. But i really like him as a prospect

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  • #786152
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    Hes an outstanding ball handler and passer, especially for his size. He has great size at around 6’10. He is a pretty good shooter and continues to get better. But hes not a great athlete and is a little slow to play the 3, but not quite strong enough to play the 4 yet. Still a great prospect I think. Like you said I have not been able to see a ton of footage on him. This is my short evaluation of what I saw. But i really like him as a prospect

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  • #786235
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    He was always a highly touted European player since his early days in HS. Unlike Anthony Davis, his growth spurt was borderline unfortunate. He is now a 6’10 skinny forward with below average quickness.

    He’ll have to focus on putting on weight to play the 4 in the NBA. Because there’s no way he can guard SFs- just too slow.

    Despite his limitations his shooting and passing should let him be a contributor. He already showed his effectiveness in the Hoop Summit and has been able to get minutes on a top-notch Euro team.

    At times he reminds me of Kyle Anderson from UCLA. (Not as good of a rebounder, but a better shooter).They are both skinny bigmen with good ball skills, but bad lateral quickness.

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  • #786168
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    He was always a highly touted European player since his early days in HS. Unlike Anthony Davis, his growth spurt was borderline unfortunate. He is now a 6’10 skinny forward with below average quickness.

    He’ll have to focus on putting on weight to play the 4 in the NBA. Because there’s no way he can guard SFs- just too slow.

    Despite his limitations his shooting and passing should let him be a contributor. He already showed his effectiveness in the Hoop Summit and has been able to get minutes on a top-notch Euro team.

    At times he reminds me of Kyle Anderson from UCLA. (Not as good of a rebounder, but a better shooter).They are both skinny bigmen with good ball skills, but bad lateral quickness.

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    • #786294
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      I like the Kyle Anderson comparison as far as size and skill goes. Like Anderson, he’s a very tall small forward with point guard skills and contributes in a lot of categories. I think he’s a better athlete than Anderson, but then again, Anderson’s a really poor athlete for the NBA. I was pretty astonished just how little acceleration Anderson actually has. Even guys who are pretty slow can build up speed going coast to coast. Anderson has zero build up speed. Saric’s by no means an above-average athlete but he’s similar athletically to Hedo Turkoglu with a similar ability to use screens off the dribble. After a poor start to his career with Cibona, he’s really played well lately. Players who can handle the pick and roll game like he can have a chance to be good players.

      On Anderson, as slow as he is, his crossover is pretty damn effective. The width of his crossover is as wide as Durant’s and time and time again, he gets by defenders with it. I don’t know if he can do the same in the NBA but if he can, it’d be one of the best crossovers ever considering his lack of quickness.

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    • #786361
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      I like the Kyle Anderson comparison as far as size and skill goes. Like Anderson, he’s a very tall small forward with point guard skills and contributes in a lot of categories. I think he’s a better athlete than Anderson, but then again, Anderson’s a really poor athlete for the NBA. I was pretty astonished just how little acceleration Anderson actually has. Even guys who are pretty slow can build up speed going coast to coast. Anderson has zero build up speed. Saric’s by no means an above-average athlete but he’s similar athletically to Hedo Turkoglu with a similar ability to use screens off the dribble. After a poor start to his career with Cibona, he’s really played well lately. Players who can handle the pick and roll game like he can have a chance to be good players.

      On Anderson, as slow as he is, his crossover is pretty damn effective. The width of his crossover is as wide as Durant’s and time and time again, he gets by defenders with it. I don’t know if he can do the same in the NBA but if he can, it’d be one of the best crossovers ever considering his lack of quickness.

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  • #786176
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    is he laid back? Is he driven to get better? Any red flags?

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    • #786254
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      He has been known to act like a playboy, believing in his own hype. This is especially apparent when he played in the U-19 World Championship in 2011 where his demeanour was awful, he’d yell at anybody because he is Dario Saric. Defensively he’s going to really struggle against NBA small forwards and most NBA power forwards in terms of agility and foot speed. He’s an exceptional passer but he does like to over-do it with the flash at times. He got into hot water a year ago by being caught driving a vehicle under-aged..

      Whoever drafts him won’t get a reserved laid-back player, he has a lot of fire and sometimes misguided passion for the game (God complex) but there’s no denying the gifts and American life may suit him more. There is a lot of pressure for him to succeed after being hailed as Europe’s ‘next big thing’ succeeding Ricky Rubio with that title so there are a lot of eye-balls already on him. Over the last couple of years from watching him, physically he’s developed really well, there was talk that he’d become a guard but now has has a more refined frame at a very sturdy 230lbs that can add some more weight.

      His game may not translate, he primarily needs the ball in his hands to be effective as he’s a very poor shooter and is below average in terms of off-ball movement. Saric has a pedigree similar to the best Euros in the NBA like Dirk, Pau, Rubio and more recently Valanciunas.He may stay in Europe which has led to his stock-drop.

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    • #786321
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      He has been known to act like a playboy, believing in his own hype. This is especially apparent when he played in the U-19 World Championship in 2011 where his demeanour was awful, he’d yell at anybody because he is Dario Saric. Defensively he’s going to really struggle against NBA small forwards and most NBA power forwards in terms of agility and foot speed. He’s an exceptional passer but he does like to over-do it with the flash at times. He got into hot water a year ago by being caught driving a vehicle under-aged..

      Whoever drafts him won’t get a reserved laid-back player, he has a lot of fire and sometimes misguided passion for the game (God complex) but there’s no denying the gifts and American life may suit him more. There is a lot of pressure for him to succeed after being hailed as Europe’s ‘next big thing’ succeeding Ricky Rubio with that title so there are a lot of eye-balls already on him. Over the last couple of years from watching him, physically he’s developed really well, there was talk that he’d become a guard but now has has a more refined frame at a very sturdy 230lbs that can add some more weight.

      His game may not translate, he primarily needs the ball in his hands to be effective as he’s a very poor shooter and is below average in terms of off-ball movement. Saric has a pedigree similar to the best Euros in the NBA like Dirk, Pau, Rubio and more recently Valanciunas.He may stay in Europe which has led to his stock-drop.

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    • #786326
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      he is hard worker, he is passionate warrior on court.

      his has red flags, but physical ones

      -poor body control
      -lack of explosives, explosive vertical

      from tehnical

      -has just average post skills
      -does not have natrual shootin touch. was also poor from FT line at beginig of season, but over last 15 games he shoots 70% and is also decent from catch and shoot. working evrey day with shooting coach and made ipruvments in shoothin mechanics
      -has avrage post skills/footwork that along poor body control really hurting him against grown man
      -strugles to finish when ever he changes direction when he loses body controll and explosivnes

      -also strugles moving without ball as in junior level he was always main ball handler, but is impruving his awarness and understanding
      -on defense still at times strugles with awarnes mostley because poor coaching in Zagreb (like most prospects from Croatia do)

      he may strugle to trasform on senior level, especially nba level, but at worst he will end as great role player atleast on euroleague level

      from positive sides

      -has natruall feal for game
      -winnig mentality
      -mental tougnes
      -above avreg ball handling
      -amazing court vision
      -great in transition
      -great rebounder, shoot blocker, stealer………I’m really surprised how non scouts realizing that. despite not beaing great leaper, his reading/feal for game/timeing/natrual instics/warrior mentality realy make him rebounder, stealing balls, shoot blocking threat. and it’s not that he just blocks on ground, but has lot of blocked dunks this season
      -good 1 on 1 defender….that’s another myth, that he can’t defend anyone. He may not be in NBA best defender, but mark my words. He won’t be pushover. Not that hi is very good shoot blocker and gets lot of steals, but he is defending well low post even when he switches on biger players and also realy being able to play corectly when he ends on smaller player, even sometimes forcing guard to pick up ball…..Of corse in NBA players are more athletic and stronger, but his one on one defense really impruving and he won’t be pushover

      here are Cibona highligts where you can see some things I’m talking about. him blocking shoots, switching on guard, and some other plays…but also him strugling to finish after he changed direction

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BYmd8BNH30

      and here one overhead no-look asist

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y-Vn2tz_-0U#t=373s

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    • #786393
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      he is hard worker, he is passionate warrior on court.

      his has red flags, but physical ones

      -poor body control
      -lack of explosives, explosive vertical

      from tehnical

      -has just average post skills
      -does not have natrual shootin touch. was also poor from FT line at beginig of season, but over last 15 games he shoots 70% and is also decent from catch and shoot. working evrey day with shooting coach and made ipruvments in shoothin mechanics
      -has avrage post skills/footwork that along poor body control really hurting him against grown man
      -strugles to finish when ever he changes direction when he loses body controll and explosivnes

      -also strugles moving without ball as in junior level he was always main ball handler, but is impruving his awarness and understanding
      -on defense still at times strugles with awarnes mostley because poor coaching in Zagreb (like most prospects from Croatia do)

      he may strugle to trasform on senior level, especially nba level, but at worst he will end as great role player atleast on euroleague level

      from positive sides

      -has natruall feal for game
      -winnig mentality
      -mental tougnes
      -above avreg ball handling
      -amazing court vision
      -great in transition
      -great rebounder, shoot blocker, stealer………I’m really surprised how non scouts realizing that. despite not beaing great leaper, his reading/feal for game/timeing/natrual instics/warrior mentality realy make him rebounder, stealing balls, shoot blocking threat. and it’s not that he just blocks on ground, but has lot of blocked dunks this season
      -good 1 on 1 defender….that’s another myth, that he can’t defend anyone. He may not be in NBA best defender, but mark my words. He won’t be pushover. Not that hi is very good shoot blocker and gets lot of steals, but he is defending well low post even when he switches on biger players and also realy being able to play corectly when he ends on smaller player, even sometimes forcing guard to pick up ball…..Of corse in NBA players are more athletic and stronger, but his one on one defense really impruving and he won’t be pushover

      here are Cibona highligts where you can see some things I’m talking about. him blocking shoots, switching on guard, and some other plays…but also him strugling to finish after he changed direction

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BYmd8BNH30

      and here one overhead no-look asist

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y-Vn2tz_-0U#t=373s

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  • #786243
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    is he laid back? Is he driven to get better? Any red flags?

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  • #786358
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    I really like Saric. I must say I have only seen a handful of his games this past season at Cibona, but he stood out. I’m not sure he will ever be a great shooter, as his shot is really flat and has a weird rotation, but other than that he is really skilled. I think he has to play PF in the NBA because he gets caught up in screens and is too slow to effectively close out on shooters. His court awareness is better than any other big is the draft and he does an outstanding job passing off the dribble for a big man, although sometimes he gets too cute with the ball and passes when he should just finish.

    And as mentioned above, he is really intense on the court. His motor is really good and he does a good job boxing out. Against NBA bigs, he will probably get pushed around some, but he should still be a good rebounder. He’ll need to bulk up to defend the post, but I think he is, as pohani komarac said, undersold as a defensive player.

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  • #786425
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    I really like Saric. I must say I have only seen a handful of his games this past season at Cibona, but he stood out. I’m not sure he will ever be a great shooter, as his shot is really flat and has a weird rotation, but other than that he is really skilled. I think he has to play PF in the NBA because he gets caught up in screens and is too slow to effectively close out on shooters. His court awareness is better than any other big is the draft and he does an outstanding job passing off the dribble for a big man, although sometimes he gets too cute with the ball and passes when he should just finish.

    And as mentioned above, he is really intense on the court. His motor is really good and he does a good job boxing out. Against NBA bigs, he will probably get pushed around some, but he should still be a good rebounder. He’ll need to bulk up to defend the post, but I think he is, as pohani komarac said, undersold as a defensive player.

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  • #786614
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    Why the hell do Americans keep saying this guy is a small forward? He is NOT a small forward. He’s a power forward all the way 100%. NBA fans are so damn strange.

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  • #786681
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    Why the hell do Americans keep saying this guy is a small forward? He is NOT a small forward. He’s a power forward all the way 100%. NBA fans are so damn strange.

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