[Lotto StudParticipant]

What are the differences between Dante Exum & MCW?

[druneave3Participant]

 I am not an expert on either player given the limtied viewing of both players, especially Exum, but I’ll take a shot at it. 

MCW- A he is more of a natural PG compared to Exum. He has a better overall feel for the game in terms of passing and creating for others. He might be a smarter basketball player as well. 

Exum- Has more than enough ability to play the point, and is by no means a bad passer, but has more of a scorer’s mentality than MCW.  

Other ways they differ would include Exum having a bit more length, bulk, and strength than MCW. Tough to say this after the incredible year Williams is having with the near triple doubles, Magic comparisons, and the big shots he has hit, but Exum could still have more potential. Williams has shown some great defensive abilities as well, but same goes for potential in that category as well. 

I didn’t think MCW had it in him to be a real player in this league, but a draft re-do would have him going in the Top 3. Exum should get some looks in the top 3 because of the similarities in thier games. Embiid, Wiggins, and Exum are my top 3 prospects early on in this draft process. 

 

 

[druneave3Participant]

 I am not an expert on either player given the limtied viewing of both players, especially Exum, but I’ll take a shot at it. 

MCW- A he is more of a natural PG compared to Exum. He has a better overall feel for the game in terms of passing and creating for others. He might be a smarter basketball player as well. 

Exum- Has more than enough ability to play the point, and is by no means a bad passer, but has more of a scorer’s mentality than MCW.  

Other ways they differ would include Exum having a bit more length, bulk, and strength than MCW. Tough to say this after the incredible year Williams is having with the near triple doubles, Magic comparisons, and the big shots he has hit, but Exum could still have more potential. Williams has shown some great defensive abilities as well, but same goes for potential in that category as well. 

I didn’t think MCW had it in him to be a real player in this league, but a draft re-do would have him going in the Top 3. Exum should get some looks in the top 3 because of the similarities in thier games. Embiid, Wiggins, and Exum are my top 3 prospects early on in this draft process. 

 

 

[jwall1Participant]

 Haven’t seen Exum much, but judging from the few times I have seen him he is more athletic than MCW, more of a 2 guard, and a better scorer when driving to the hole. 

[jwall1Participant]

 Haven’t seen Exum much, but judging from the few times I have seen him he is more athletic than MCW, more of a 2 guard, and a better scorer when driving to the hole. 

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Apparently, Exum has more potential but Carter Williams is the better offensive player.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

Apparently, Exum has more potential but Carter Williams is the better offensive player.

[Ty BenjaminsParticipant]

 I’m tired of seeing this lazy comparison that exist simply because they look like each other. If MCW was dark skinned this would be nonexistent 

[Ty BenjaminsParticipant]

 I’m tired of seeing this lazy comparison that exist simply because they look like each other. If MCW was dark skinned this would be nonexistent 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 It’s very apparent you did not take height and position into consideration, also the fact that the thread highlighted "differences" instead of similarities. 

Who’s basic us or you?

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 It’s very apparent you did not take height and position into consideration, also the fact that the thread highlighted "differences" instead of similarities. 

Who’s basic us or you?

[Fo Fo FoParticipant]

Seriously?!?  They’re being compared because there are reports that the Sixers are considering trading MCW and drafting Exum.  Has absolultely nothing to do with the shade of their skin.  If Steve Nash was still a legit player we’d be comparing MCW and Nash.  If there were reports that the Sixers were considering trading MCW for Rubio and something, then we’d be comparing MCW and Rubio.  

[Fo Fo FoParticipant]

Seriously?!?  They’re being compared because there are reports that the Sixers are considering trading MCW and drafting Exum.  Has absolultely nothing to do with the shade of their skin.  If Steve Nash was still a legit player we’d be comparing MCW and Nash.  If there were reports that the Sixers were considering trading MCW for Rubio and something, then we’d be comparing MCW and Rubio.  

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 I remember another person made this thread a while ago and i replied to it. I go to school around the same area as Exum, a couple years younger then him, but I’ve been watching him play since i was 7 or 8. He is not a natural point guard, he reminds me a lot of Leandro Barbosa, plus a couple more inches. He is lightning quick, but not much of shooter, but can get by guys and finish at the rim. Doesnt have an elite handle, but its serviceable. Not a pass first guy, he has his nights where he can finish with double digit assists, but he is a score first combo guard. Nothing like MCW apart from their builds tbh, MCW is a pass first guy, putting up scoring numbers on a depleted Philly team.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 I remember another person made this thread a while ago and i replied to it. I go to school around the same area as Exum, a couple years younger then him, but I’ve been watching him play since i was 7 or 8. He is not a natural point guard, he reminds me a lot of Leandro Barbosa, plus a couple more inches. He is lightning quick, but not much of shooter, but can get by guys and finish at the rim. Doesnt have an elite handle, but its serviceable. Not a pass first guy, he has his nights where he can finish with double digit assists, but he is a score first combo guard. Nothing like MCW apart from their builds tbh, MCW is a pass first guy, putting up scoring numbers on a depleted Philly team.

[Rip255]

Firstly, people talk as though being a PG in the NBA means they shouldn’t be aggressive at getting their own shot off. The term "natural" point guard is almost irrelevent in todays NBA. 

 

Guys like Curry, Rose, Parker Westbrook, Marcus Smart, Victor Oladipo etc are always looking for opportunities to score and neither are the best passers. Yet because they look to attack, they find opportunities for team-mates and rack up high assist numbers. Exum will fit into this category. His playmaking is probably at a higher level than most of those players were at a comparable age anyhow. 

If you look at the NBA right now, how many of the best PG’s started their career as "natural" point guards. Rondo, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Steve Nash for sure. All those I mentioned earlier aren’t yet are still great PG’s, so that term is over-rated in my opinion. 

I also think people are selling Exum short on his point guard instincts. I’m not sure he’ll ever be a great 3pt shooter, which will make it extremely hard to take it to the rim with sagging defenders and 7 footers waiting underneath. This will limit his effectiveness as a SG in the NBA. 

I see him being a point guard in the NBA who could easily play next to an undersized shooting guard (if req’d) and handle the play-making responsibilities whilst also defending the larger backcourt player. 

[Rip255]

Firstly, people talk as though being a PG in the NBA means they shouldn’t be aggressive at getting their own shot off. The term "natural" point guard is almost irrelevent in todays NBA. 

 

Guys like Curry, Rose, Parker Westbrook, Marcus Smart, Victor Oladipo etc are always looking for opportunities to score and neither are the best passers. Yet because they look to attack, they find opportunities for team-mates and rack up high assist numbers. Exum will fit into this category. His playmaking is probably at a higher level than most of those players were at a comparable age anyhow. 

If you look at the NBA right now, how many of the best PG’s started their career as "natural" point guards. Rondo, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Steve Nash for sure. All those I mentioned earlier aren’t yet are still great PG’s, so that term is over-rated in my opinion. 

I also think people are selling Exum short on his point guard instincts. I’m not sure he’ll ever be a great 3pt shooter, which will make it extremely hard to take it to the rim with sagging defenders and 7 footers waiting underneath. This will limit his effectiveness as a SG in the NBA. 

I see him being a point guard in the NBA who could easily play next to an undersized shooting guard (if req’d) and handle the play-making responsibilities whilst also defending the larger backcourt player. 

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 He has no where near the playmaking skills that Curry, Rose or Marcus Smart had at their respective ages coming out of highschool. And thats saying something because Curry was pretty much a SG and Rose was only a point cause of his size. Exum is NOT a playmaker, he is a scorer. He is going to get asked to play point, but he is naturally a Jordan Crawford(not comparing the skillsets of the two, just the roles they play) sort of guy, should be a SG but cant quite shoot it well enough to be a full time 2, but isnt the playmaker to be a full time 1. He is a combo in the purest sense of the term.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 He has no where near the playmaking skills that Curry, Rose or Marcus Smart had at their respective ages coming out of highschool. And thats saying something because Curry was pretty much a SG and Rose was only a point cause of his size. Exum is NOT a playmaker, he is a scorer. He is going to get asked to play point, but he is naturally a Jordan Crawford(not comparing the skillsets of the two, just the roles they play) sort of guy, should be a SG but cant quite shoot it well enough to be a full time 2, but isnt the playmaker to be a full time 1. He is a combo in the purest sense of the term.

[butidonthavemoney]

I’ve heard Alec Burks as a comparison, which aligns with the little I’ve seen of him.

Burks measured 6’6" in shoes with a wingspan of 6’10" at the draft combine, while Exum was measured 6’6" in shoes with a wingspan of 6’9.25" at the 2013 Hoop Summit. Burks weighed 192 lbs in his draft year, while Exum weighed 188 lbs last year. Both are excellent athletes. They both have tight handles and are good playmakers, though neither are pure points. Each player is aggressive and gets to the free throw line quite a bit. Both excel at finishing creatively around the rim/through contact. Both players work best with the ball in their hands. Good rebounders for their position. Neither player is great off the ball, and they both need to improve their perimeter shooting.

Burks is stronger and a better mid-range shooter, while Exum has better footspeed and appears to be the superior defender.

From a strengths/weaknesses perspective I think Michael Carter-Williams could also be a valid comparison. The biggest difference is that I think one can help a team the most by playing the point guard position, and the other would help a team more playing the shooting guard position.

That being said, I think Exum has the potential to be better than either. He’s much younger (he’s 18, while Carter-Williams and Burks are both 22) and (maybe?) he can be coached to use his skill-set to play better off of his teammates. Unless he’s good enough to build a starting lineup around (and he won’t be unless his shooting ability improves dramatically), I’d like to see him become a unit’s secondary ball handler; focusing on weakside/backdoor cuts when he isn’t creating off the dribble. Of course, he’d have to be surrounded by unselfish teammates with decent offensive awareness and a capable head coach.

He’d make a great Spur, now that I think on it.

[butidonthavemoney]

I’ve heard Alec Burks as a comparison, which aligns with the little I’ve seen of him.

Burks measured 6’6" in shoes with a wingspan of 6’10" at the draft combine, while Exum was measured 6’6" in shoes with a wingspan of 6’9.25" at the 2013 Hoop Summit. Burks weighed 192 lbs in his draft year, while Exum weighed 188 lbs last year. Both are excellent athletes. They both have tight handles and are good playmakers, though neither are pure points. Each player is aggressive and gets to the free throw line quite a bit. Both excel at finishing creatively around the rim/through contact. Both players work best with the ball in their hands. Good rebounders for their position. Neither player is great off the ball, and they both need to improve their perimeter shooting.

Burks is stronger and a better mid-range shooter, while Exum has better footspeed and appears to be the superior defender.

From a strengths/weaknesses perspective I think Michael Carter-Williams could also be a valid comparison. The biggest difference is that I think one can help a team the most by playing the point guard position, and the other would help a team more playing the shooting guard position.

That being said, I think Exum has the potential to be better than either. He’s much younger (he’s 18, while Carter-Williams and Burks are both 22) and (maybe?) he can be coached to use his skill-set to play better off of his teammates. Unless he’s good enough to build a starting lineup around (and he won’t be unless his shooting ability improves dramatically), I’d like to see him become a unit’s secondary ball handler; focusing on weakside/backdoor cuts when he isn’t creating off the dribble. Of course, he’d have to be surrounded by unselfish teammates with decent offensive awareness and a capable head coach.

He’d make a great Spur, now that I think on it.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 Biggest difference between him and Carter Williams to me apart from the scoring instincts and ability, is the athleticism. While Carter Williams is no slouch, and his vertical is probably around the same if not better then Exums, Exum is just flat out ten times faster then him. I’ve been to the states and I’ve seen John Wall and LeBron play, and I’m telling you, Exum is in that catergory in terms of pure speed. He is going to create carnage in transition, makes me wish he goes to college just to have a season of highlights because its not going to be nearly as easy in the league. I like the Alex Burks comparison though.

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 Biggest difference between him and Carter Williams to me apart from the scoring instincts and ability, is the athleticism. While Carter Williams is no slouch, and his vertical is probably around the same if not better then Exums, Exum is just flat out ten times faster then him. I’ve been to the states and I’ve seen John Wall and LeBron play, and I’m telling you, Exum is in that catergory in terms of pure speed. He is going to create carnage in transition, makes me wish he goes to college just to have a season of highlights because its not going to be nearly as easy in the league. I like the Alex Burks comparison though.

[KillahcriticParticipant]

 Michael Carter-Williams and Dante Exum are two execptional talents that are considered at the moment to be franchise caliber point guards with high ceilings. Both guards bring a solid amount of skill and basketball creativity to the table, but in my(hopefully brief) article , I’ll try and address who in the long run will be the best long-term point guard for this Philadalpheaia 76ers ball club in a few key catogories. 

1. Attributes

There are many simililarities between the lanky combo guards., particularly their size and stature. At 6’6 , Exum and Carter-Williams  able to pester point guards at their position simply because of their size. Both have at least 3-5 inches on their opponents with ridiciolous length that easily allows them to lock up even the best at their position. Still size isn’t everything. Even at 7’6,  Yao Ming didn’t dominate the competition they way most people imagined he would, it all comes down to skill… which both guards have plenty of. We’ll start MCW, and then Exum,  and then make our descion on who takes the attrributes category. 

 

 

[KillahcriticParticipant]

 Michael Carter-Williams and Dante Exum are two execptional talents that are considered at the moment to be franchise caliber point guards with high ceilings. Both guards bring a solid amount of skill and basketball creativity to the table, but in my(hopefully brief) article , I’ll try and address who in the long run will be the best long-term point guard for this Philadalpheaia 76ers ball club in a few key catogories. 

1. Attributes

There are many simililarities between the lanky combo guards., particularly their size and stature. At 6’6 , Exum and Carter-Williams  able to pester point guards at their position simply because of their size. Both have at least 3-5 inches on their opponents with ridiciolous length that easily allows them to lock up even the best at their position. Still size isn’t everything. Even at 7’6,  Yao Ming didn’t dominate the competition they way most people imagined he would, it all comes down to skill… which both guards have plenty of. We’ll start MCW, and then Exum,  and then make our descion on who takes the attrributes category. 

 

 

[KillahcriticParticipant]

-MCW

PASSING

MCW has components to his game that has drawn strong comparisons to legends such as Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson. Dante Exum is a very capable passer who isn’t too shabby at setting up his teammates, but he is in now within the same league as Carter-Williams as distrubutive potential goes. Carter-Williams is an exceptional passer with substantial court-vision skills that are soon to fall in place with NBA stars Chris Paul and Rajon Rondo. His ability to setup teammates off the dime is incredible, and as the 76ers roster continues to deepen it would be a nice asset to have a floor general with so much potential.

Passing Winner -> Michael Carter-Williams

[KillahcriticParticipant]

-MCW

PASSING

MCW has components to his game that has drawn strong comparisons to legends such as Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson. Dante Exum is a very capable passer who isn’t too shabby at setting up his teammates, but he is in now within the same league as Carter-Williams as distrubutive potential goes. Carter-Williams is an exceptional passer with substantial court-vision skills that are soon to fall in place with NBA stars Chris Paul and Rajon Rondo. His ability to setup teammates off the dime is incredible, and as the 76ers roster continues to deepen it would be a nice asset to have a floor general with so much potential.

Passing Winner -> Michael Carter-Williams

[EndlessknightParticipant]

 Am I the only one who thinks that Exum will be a SG in the NBA?

 If Wiggins/Parker isn’t there at 3 I have no problems with the sixers taking Exum and playing him and MCW in the same back court. In fact I think they could have an amazing 3 guard rotation with MCW, Exum and Wroten. All three being able to play either guard spot. 

[EndlessknightParticipant]

 Am I the only one who thinks that Exum will be a SG in the NBA?

 If Wiggins/Parker isn’t there at 3 I have no problems with the sixers taking Exum and playing him and MCW in the same back court. In fact I think they could have an amazing 3 guard rotation with MCW, Exum and Wroten. All three being able to play either guard spot. 

[KillahcriticParticipant]

 -MCW 

DEFENSE 

While there are still plenty of flaws to be corrected within MCW’s defensive game, no one can fairly say that he hasn’t had one of the best defensive outputs ever seen by a rookie in this league. His lanky arms and overall length already do the trick in pestering point guards, but it’s his defensive prowess that shows the most potential in MCW’s game. His non-stop energy in guarding some of the best guards in this league is simply amazing to watch. 

-Dante Exum

Exum shares many of Carter-Williams showcasable abilities on the defensive end. Hardworking, quick, long and lanky, all the tools that would allow Exum to lock up many point guards in this league. Could he rack up the steal numbers like Carter-Williams? That’s the bi The only thing that stops Exum from winning this category? 

[KillahcriticParticipant]

 -MCW 

DEFENSE 

While there are still plenty of flaws to be corrected within MCW’s defensive game, no one can fairly say that he hasn’t had one of the best defensive outputs ever seen by a rookie in this league. His lanky arms and overall length already do the trick in pestering point guards, but it’s his defensive prowess that shows the most potential in MCW’s game. His non-stop energy in guarding some of the best guards in this league is simply amazing to watch. 

-Dante Exum

Exum shares many of Carter-Williams showcasable abilities on the defensive end. Hardworking, quick, long and lanky, all the tools that would allow Exum to lock up many point guards in this league. Could he rack up the steal numbers like Carter-Williams? That’s the bi The only thing that stops Exum from winning this category? 

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