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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 12:59am #61626

valentine
Part of the reason many users find my posts engaging, is because I bring information to them not otherwise available in the mainstream media.
I can confirm that Dante Exums recovery from ACL surgery is going very well. He is walking without a limp just weeks after surgery. So it doesnt appear to be a Derrick Rose type of situation.
Exum was one of the most promising rookies in the 2014 draft, and was expected to have a breakout season.
Floor – Shaun Livingston/Fat Lever
Realistic – Steve Smith
Ceiling – Prime Penny Hardaway.

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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 2:41am #1018409

bumbleb33
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idk about his floor being shaun Livingston…. exum from what I saw last year dosent really know how to play basketball. If he improves his shot I could see him being a serviceable 3 & D player
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 2:41am #1018269

bumbleb33
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idk about his floor being shaun Livingston…. exum from what I saw last year dosent really know how to play basketball. If he improves his shot I could see him being a serviceable 3 & D player
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:34am #1018486
  
  Rip256
  Its not like Shaun Livingstone is an All NBA calibre player.
  He’s a pretty good career backup PG. Nothing more or less.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:34am #1018345
  
  Rip256
  Its not like Shaun Livingstone is an All NBA calibre player.
  He’s a pretty good career backup PG. Nothing more or less.
  
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 4:31am #1018423

tuck243
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I think he was better served to go to College so we can see just how overrated he was. I don’t think he’s really a PG and he doesn’t score well enough to be a 2G so he has no use in the league. His length and athletic ability is nice, but we’re about 3-4 years away from him actually contributing to a playoff team. I’m not sure if that contribution will be anywhere near all-star worthy. His ceiling isn’t Penny at all. And Steve Smith was VERY good. I can’t see Exum that good either.
Ceiling is Larry Hughes maybe…

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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 4:31am #1018284

tuck243
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I think he was better served to go to College so we can see just how overrated he was. I don’t think he’s really a PG and he doesn’t score well enough to be a 2G so he has no use in the league. His length and athletic ability is nice, but we’re about 3-4 years away from him actually contributing to a playoff team. I’m not sure if that contribution will be anywhere near all-star worthy. His ceiling isn’t Penny at all. And Steve Smith was VERY good. I can’t see Exum that good either.
Ceiling is Larry Hughes maybe…

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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:21am #1018480
  
  Rip256
  "He should have gone to College JUST so we could see how over rated he was"…
  Errr…
  How does this comment has a positive rating.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:21am #1018339
  
  Rip256
  "He should have gone to College JUST so we could see how over rated he was"…
  Errr…
  How does this comment has a positive rating.
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 4:42pm #1018440
    
    ZachAttack
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    idk, but it’s pretty annoying.
    Just a year ago, everyone was saying this guy would be the next big thing. Next thing you know, because of an ACL injury. Everyone thinks he’ll be a scrub. That’s dumb
    
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    - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 11:39pm #1018634
      
      For_Never_Ever
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      I always thought he was overrated, and got way over hyped. The hype and unknown got people. I created a topic on him and commented on other peoples topics on him likely a few times.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 11:39pm #1018493
      
      For_Never_Ever
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      I always thought he was overrated, and got way over hyped. The hype and unknown got people. I created a topic on him and commented on other peoples topics on him likely a few times.
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      - Posted on: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 9:27am #1018712
        
        T Rex
        He’s no Marcus Smart, and Exum’s first step was slower by draft day than it was a year earlier.
        Mudiay, Winslow, and especially DRussell all lost a bit of quickness in the year before their draft too.
        Just because a 17 year old Exum had a great first step, didn’t mean he’d always be that quick when he filled out.
        Luckily Smart refused to workout for the Jazz, and they were too dumb to draft him anyway.
        But at this point Exum might be a bit underrated and worthy of a bit of faint praise.
        
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      - Posted on: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 9:27am #1018571
        
        T Rex
        He’s no Marcus Smart, and Exum’s first step was slower by draft day than it was a year earlier.
        Mudiay, Winslow, and especially DRussell all lost a bit of quickness in the year before their draft too.
        Just because a 17 year old Exum had a great first step, didn’t mean he’d always be that quick when he filled out.
        Luckily Smart refused to workout for the Jazz, and they were too dumb to draft him anyway.
        But at this point Exum might be a bit underrated and worthy of a bit of faint praise.
        
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    - Posted on: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 9:59am #1018714
      
      tuck243
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      Still think where he was selected he’s overrated… If he went to a great college here, he would’ve been overrated going in looking at his current body of work in the NBA. Damn sure wouldn’t got picked 5th over players that are better than him at his position.
      By the way he’s 20 years old and players his age in the league are better than him. Zach Lavine didn’t have a decent season but it was way better than Exum. That’s how terrible he was. I asked everyone what they thought and what happened to Exum and no one answered on here. So, I had to go back and watch some of the Jazz games and he was completely trash. Like completely… I don’t understand where this "Jordan" crap came from… Some people compared him to a young Kobe… He has NO CLUE when to shoot or go to the hole. His athletic ability is better than average. His shot sucks… But yet, we’re suppose to be in love with a guy that’s the same age as every rookie, yet he’s not as good? Why does he get a pass?
      
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    - Posted on: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 9:59am #1018573
      
      tuck243
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      Still think where he was selected he’s overrated… If he went to a great college here, he would’ve been overrated going in looking at his current body of work in the NBA. Damn sure wouldn’t got picked 5th over players that are better than him at his position.
      By the way he’s 20 years old and players his age in the league are better than him. Zach Lavine didn’t have a decent season but it was way better than Exum. That’s how terrible he was. I asked everyone what they thought and what happened to Exum and no one answered on here. So, I had to go back and watch some of the Jazz games and he was completely trash. Like completely… I don’t understand where this "Jordan" crap came from… Some people compared him to a young Kobe… He has NO CLUE when to shoot or go to the hole. His athletic ability is better than average. His shot sucks… But yet, we’re suppose to be in love with a guy that’s the same age as every rookie, yet he’s not as good? Why does he get a pass?
      
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      - Posted on: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 12:36pm #1018742
        
        For_Never_Ever
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        The Jordan comparison came from that supposed expert on internatural players. He became known for saying this player is two years from being a two year player. I first heard him compare him to Jordan on NBA TV during draft workouts and measurments, and the other guy that does the draft with him said he is the closest player he has seen to Kobe.
        
        It was unbelievable and blow me away these two supposed basketball expert would ride the hype mystery train this far. At that moment those two guys lost all credibility for me. Jay Williams and another guy there didn’t make those kinda bold comparisons.
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      - Posted on: Fri, 10/16/2015 - 12:36pm #1018601
        
        For_Never_Ever
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        The Jordan comparison came from that supposed expert on internatural players. He became known for saying this player is two years from being a two year player. I first heard him compare him to Jordan on NBA TV during draft workouts and measurments, and the other guy that does the draft with him said he is the closest player he has seen to Kobe.
        
        It was unbelievable and blow me away these two supposed basketball expert would ride the hype mystery train this far. At that moment those two guys lost all credibility for me. Jay Williams and another guy there didn’t make those kinda bold comparisons.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 4:42pm #1018580
    
    ZachAttack
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    idk, but it’s pretty annoying.
    Just a year ago, everyone was saying this guy would be the next big thing. Next thing you know, because of an ACL injury. Everyone thinks he’ll be a scrub. That’s dumb
    
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 6:48am #1018441

IndianaBasketball
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Lmao so you know it’s not a "Derrick Rose situation" because he’s walking around without a limp? Really?You hype yourself up, but then follow that up by saying something silly.
Walking around right now without a limp doesn’t mean anything. D. Rose was walking without a limp too. Exum is only in the beginning stages of a long and difficult physical/mental recovery. An ACL tear is basically a two year injury.
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 6:48am #1018301

IndianaBasketball
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Lmao so you know it’s not a "Derrick Rose situation" because he’s walking around without a limp? Really?You hype yourself up, but then follow that up by saying something silly.
Walking around right now without a limp doesn’t mean anything. D. Rose was walking without a limp too. Exum is only in the beginning stages of a long and difficult physical/mental recovery. An ACL tear is basically a two year injury.
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:30am #1018484
  
  Rip256
  I read your reply…and in summary, what you are essentially saying is…
  Being able to put weight on the knee, move comfortably and demonstrate good range of motion so soon after surgery is neither a good or bad sign. Rather its no indication of progress at all.
  Is that your analysis?
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:30am #1018343
  
  Rip256
  I read your reply…and in summary, what you are essentially saying is…
  Being able to put weight on the knee, move comfortably and demonstrate good range of motion so soon after surgery is neither a good or bad sign. Rather its no indication of progress at all.
  Is that your analysis?
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 4:24pm #1018432
    
    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m saying it’s completely normal and *expected* for a professional athlete to be off of crutches and walking without a limp over a month after ACL surgery. I mean, even regular people are mostly off crutches and walking without a limp in 10-14 days… Some quicker. It’s just walking… Not cutting, planting, changing directions, moving laterally, etc.
    So my point is that him walking w/o a limp is good, but insignificant in regards to his long term recovery. D. Rose was walking w/o a limp too. Like this isn’t some major milestone that tells you anything about how he’ll return… Or when.
    And tbh, I don’t even understand what you mean by "D Rose situation". D Rose has had zero problems with his left knee since his ACL surgery. Unless you just mean D Rose opting to take a full season to recover before returning… Which even still could not be determined simply by a player walking without a limp over a month after the surgery.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 6:09pm #1018459
      
      OhCanada-
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      I worked for two weeks with a torn ligament in my knee before I knew how bad I injured it. I thought I had a really bad bruise or something. Although I was then advised to not put any weight on it for months afterwards.
      You can walk on it by lifting and not putting too much pressure on it but when you plant your foot any pivot with added pressure brings excruciating pain and can further damage the injury.
      
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    - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 6:09pm #1018600
      
      OhCanada-
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      I worked for two weeks with a torn ligament in my knee before I knew how bad I injured it. I thought I had a really bad bruise or something. Although I was then advised to not put any weight on it for months afterwards.
      You can walk on it by lifting and not putting too much pressure on it but when you plant your foot any pivot with added pressure brings excruciating pain and can further damage the injury.
      
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  - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 4:24pm #1018572
    
    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m saying it’s completely normal and *expected* for a professional athlete to be off of crutches and walking without a limp over a month after ACL surgery. I mean, even regular people are mostly off crutches and walking without a limp in 10-14 days… Some quicker. It’s just walking… Not cutting, planting, changing directions, moving laterally, etc.
    So my point is that him walking w/o a limp is good, but insignificant in regards to his long term recovery. D. Rose was walking w/o a limp too. Like this isn’t some major milestone that tells you anything about how he’ll return… Or when.
    And tbh, I don’t even understand what you mean by "D Rose situation". D Rose has had zero problems with his left knee since his ACL surgery. Unless you just mean D Rose opting to take a full season to recover before returning… Which even still could not be determined simply by a player walking without a limp over a month after the surgery.
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 6:59am #1018448

Hitster
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Derrick Rose had two seperate injuries and returned to play from both and played to a far higher level post injury than Dante Exum has yet to achieve let alone before you consider the pre injury MVP Level D-Rose.
I hope that Dante makes a full recovery and we can see what he is all about in the NBA. I hate to see any sportsperson get injured especially at the very start of their career.
Good point by Indyball above full recovery from ACL can be a couple of years so hopefully this year we see D-Rose step it up that bit more and get back to near his MVP form.
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 6:59am #1018307

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Derrick Rose had two seperate injuries and returned to play from both and played to a far higher level post injury than Dante Exum has yet to achieve let alone before you consider the pre injury MVP Level D-Rose.
I hope that Dante makes a full recovery and we can see what he is all about in the NBA. I hate to see any sportsperson get injured especially at the very start of their career.
Good point by Indyball above full recovery from ACL can be a couple of years so hopefully this year we see D-Rose step it up that bit more and get back to near his MVP form.
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 7:07am #1018450

King Calucha
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Fat Lever was a great all around player. I don’t think Exum will ever be a good rebounder… and he plays nothing like Steve Smith. Exum will be good, but he’s just different from those players. Do you even watch basketball?
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 7:07am #1018309

King Calucha
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Fat Lever was a great all around player. I don’t think Exum will ever be a good rebounder… and he plays nothing like Steve Smith. Exum will be good, but he’s just different from those players. Do you even watch basketball?
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 9:49am #1018468
  
  Rip256
  I’ve seen every game hes played since being drafted. Bet you havent watched more than 3 Utah or Australian international games. I’ve seen about 100.
  Can you honestly say you’ve watched more than 3 full Utah games in the last 12 mths?
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 9:49am #1018327
  
  Rip256
  I’ve seen every game hes played since being drafted. Bet you havent watched more than 3 Utah or Australian international games. I’ve seen about 100.
  Can you honestly say you’ve watched more than 3 full Utah games in the last 12 mths?
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 3:40pm #1018428
    
    King Calucha
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    I have. How did you come to the conclusion that Exum’s game is similar to Steve Smith or Fat Lever?
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  - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 3:40pm #1018568
    
    King Calucha
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    I have. How did you come to the conclusion that Exum’s game is similar to Steve Smith or Fat Lever?
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 9:02am #1018458

hoffmanm6
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Why are we so quick to disregard a player after their first year in the league? The kid was 19 last year and he was a starter on an almost playoff team. He was not picked 5th overall last year for no reason. He will be a very good pro in the future, this is a minor setback.
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 9:02am #1018317

hoffmanm6
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Why are we so quick to disregard a player after their first year in the league? The kid was 19 last year and he was a starter on an almost playoff team. He was not picked 5th overall last year for no reason. He will be a very good pro in the future, this is a minor setback.
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 9:44am #1018464
  
  Rip256
  Yeah…youngest regular starting PG in the history of the NBA…never even played against someone older than him til he was drafted…and the haters are out cos he didnt average 20/10.
  Some of these basketball fans must be depressed or something. Why so grumpy?
  Check out Utah’s performance once he hit the starting line up.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 9:44am #1018323
  
  Rip256
  Yeah…youngest regular starting PG in the history of the NBA…never even played against someone older than him til he was drafted…and the haters are out cos he didnt average 20/10.
  Some of these basketball fans must be depressed or something. Why so grumpy?
  Check out Utah’s performance once he hit the starting line up.
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 12:19pm #1018375
    
    he_gets_buckets
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    You know who hit the starting lineup same time as Exum? Rudy Gobert. Exum was objectively terrible at basketball last season look at his basic stats, advanced stats, whatever you want. One of the worst TO% in any situation, especially pick and roll in the league, also one of the worst TO/Assist ratios of guards who qualified. He had good plus minus because he shared the court with other impactful bench players.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 1:20pm #1018385
      
      Rip256
      Nothing you are saying is wrong…but your glass is half empty man.
      If anyone expected anything different, then that’s their own misjudgement.
      Dude was 19, super raw and probably only reached 20% of his potential.
      You guys need some patience and to look beyond the stats and assess the overall picture.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 1:20pm #1018526
      
      Rip256
      Nothing you are saying is wrong…but your glass is half empty man.
      If anyone expected anything different, then that’s their own misjudgement.
      Dude was 19, super raw and probably only reached 20% of his potential.
      You guys need some patience and to look beyond the stats and assess the overall picture.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 12:19pm #1018516
    
    he_gets_buckets
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    You know who hit the starting lineup same time as Exum? Rudy Gobert. Exum was objectively terrible at basketball last season look at his basic stats, advanced stats, whatever you want. One of the worst TO% in any situation, especially pick and roll in the league, also one of the worst TO/Assist ratios of guards who qualified. He had good plus minus because he shared the court with other impactful bench players.
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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:56am #1018490

T Rex
Exum was on the court A LOT when Utah was making their playoff run last year, once he got his feet wet. His plus minus was very good, and most people trying to knock him couldn’t care less about winning basketball.

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Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:56am #1018349

T Rex
Exum was on the court A LOT when Utah was making their playoff run last year, once he got his feet wet. His plus minus was very good, and most people trying to knock him couldn’t care less about winning basketball.

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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 3:30pm #1018424
  
  Odie
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  I agree T Rex. Utah was obviously better with Exum as opposed to Burke in the line up. Sometimes a team is much better if the point guard doesn’t score 20 plus.
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/15/2015 - 3:30pm #1018564
  
  Odie
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  I agree T Rex. Utah was obviously better with Exum as opposed to Burke in the line up. Sometimes a team is much better if the point guard doesn’t score 20 plus.
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