[dmalk1229Participant]

 Hey all, today was the first game I actually watched D’angelo Russel play, probably wasn’t the best game to choose lol, but I did see some nice flashes.

And when looking at his nbadraft profile I remembered James Harden was compared to the Brandon Roy/ Manu Ginobli as well.There is really no point to what I am getting at but I just think its funny that they are both 6’5 left handed ball dominant guards, with creeply similiar statisitics. James harden freshman season at Arizona State: ppg:17.8, TRB 5.3, Ast: 3.2; Stl:2.3 vs D’angelo Russel ppg:17.7, TRB: 4.7 Ast: 5.3 Steals 1.8. Russel at this point seems like a better distributor, but it’s way to early too tell, as to the type of player he will be at the next level. But he does look like he could develop into a great player!

 

 

   

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 Russell and Harden have the same form on there jumpshot also. What makes Harden so great is his driving ability, Russell has a good handle but it’s not Hardenesque yet. If he plays downhill like Harden and Manu with the stroke he has he will be good. 

Ohio State has played one of the worse schedules I have ever seen so far so his numbers can be misleading. I swear they played a girls middle school team in between Wright State and Moore head U. 

I don’t think he’s 6’5 but his arms are super long. He’s not a great body language guy but he’s a lottery pick and thinks he is more talented than everyone else thinks. That’s a compliment by the way and that supremacy will bode well for him like it did Harden.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 Russell and Harden have the same form on there jumpshot also. What makes Harden so great is his driving ability, Russell has a good handle but it’s not Hardenesque yet. If he plays downhill like Harden and Manu with the stroke he has he will be good. 

Ohio State has played one of the worse schedules I have ever seen so far so his numbers can be misleading. I swear they played a girls middle school team in between Wright State and Moore head U. 

I don’t think he’s 6’5 but his arms are super long. He’s not a great body language guy but he’s a lottery pick and thinks he is more talented than everyone else thinks. That’s a compliment by the way and that supremacy will bode well for him like it did Harden.

[reanimatorParticipant]

 Nowhere near as strong or athletic

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 Neither was Harden. 

James Harden athleticism and conditioning was questioned through out his HS/College days up until the Combine.

 

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 Neither was Harden. 

James Harden athleticism and conditioning was questioned through out his HS/College days up until the Combine.

 

[reanimatorParticipant]

 Nowhere near as strong or athletic

[reanimatorParticipant]

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Harden is 230, fam. Russell will be lucky if he can get up to 210. HUGE difference in strength. 

Harden is MUCH better vertically and just as shifty. 

Really bad comparison. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 So your comparing him to today’s James Harden ? Because with everything your saying you didn’t see James Harden before he got in the league.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 So your comparing him to today’s James Harden ? Because with everything your saying you didn’t see James Harden before he got in the league.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 So your saying that despite all the obvious similarities in there games, because Harden weighs 20lbs. more its a terrible comparison?

[reanimatorParticipant]

 Yes, because Russell can’t play through contact nor can he finish at the rim……..which is pretty huge part of Harden’s game. 

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

How about prime Manu Ginobili to James Harden ? Because he out weighs Manu likely by at least 20lbs.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

How about prime Manu Ginobili to James Harden ? Because he out weighs Manu likely by at least 20lbs.

[reanimatorParticipant]

 Yes, because Russell can’t play through contact nor can he finish at the rim……..which is pretty huge part of Harden’s game. 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 So your saying that despite all the obvious similarities in there games, because Harden weighs 20lbs. more its a terrible comparison?

[reanimatorParticipant]

 sigh 

Harden is 230, fam. Russell will be lucky if he can get up to 210. HUGE difference in strength. 

Harden is MUCH better vertically and just as shifty. 

Really bad comparison. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[reanimatorParticipant]

 What is there to see? His frame is his frame. Russell isn’t EVER going to have Harden’s frame or strength. And I saw Harden in HS and in college, he was a much better vertical athlete than Russell. 

Look, Russell is a very fun play to watch but a lot of people are engaging in a lot of hyperbole. 

Tell you what, let me know when he can shoot above 30% against real competition and I’ll compare him to franchise guys. 

 

 

 

 

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 I’m not saying Russel is going to be Harden. However, you make it out like today’s Harden has always been this player athletically and condition wise. It’s easy to say Harden is a very good athlete and strong now since he has been in the league.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 I’m not saying Russel is going to be Harden. However, you make it out like today’s Harden has always been this player athletically and condition wise. It’s easy to say Harden is a very good athlete and strong now since he has been in the league.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

It’s a comparison is style not ceiling, what are you talking about.

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

It’s a comparison is style not ceiling, what are you talking about.

[reanimatorParticipant]

 What is there to see? His frame is his frame. Russell isn’t EVER going to have Harden’s frame or strength. And I saw Harden in HS and in college, he was a much better vertical athlete than Russell. 

Look, Russell is a very fun play to watch but a lot of people are engaging in a lot of hyperbole. 

Tell you what, let me know when he can shoot above 30% against real competition and I’ll compare him to franchise guys. 

 

 

 

 

[reanimatorParticipant]

 No, I’m saying Harden was always better vertically and has always had a bigger frame going back to HS. 

[tuck243Participant]

 I don’t see the Harden in his game outside of the passing…  Harden utilize that step back a lot and can finish through contact… He was 220 when he left ASU vs 180 lbs that is Russell (Harden still had 15 lbs on him as a freshman)…  I really like Russell’s game, but saying he’s Harden is strecthing it… Not even talking about his ceiling, just who you would compare him to… I don’t even think Brandon Roy is a good comparison…  I think D’Angelo is more of PG than he is SG which he why he’s struggling so much…  He’s forced to score which is something OSU needs because no one is going to do it…  

[tuck243Participant]

 I don’t see the Harden in his game outside of the passing…  Harden utilize that step back a lot and can finish through contact… He was 220 when he left ASU vs 180 lbs that is Russell (Harden still had 15 lbs on him as a freshman)…  I really like Russell’s game, but saying he’s Harden is strecthing it… Not even talking about his ceiling, just who you would compare him to… I don’t even think Brandon Roy is a good comparison…  I think D’Angelo is more of PG than he is SG which he why he’s struggling so much…  He’s forced to score which is something OSU needs because no one is going to do it…  

[reanimatorParticipant]

 No, I’m saying Harden was always better vertically and has always had a bigger frame going back to HS. 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 D Russ is more Steph Curry.. Been watching him for years. Hes crafty, really good shooter, and a good slasher with nice floaters. 

[Taylor Gang MikeParticipant]

 D Russ is more Steph Curry.. Been watching him for years. Hes crafty, really good shooter, and a good slasher with nice floaters. 

[reanimatorParticipant]

 Curry makes way more sense. Not that level of shooter, though. 

[reanimatorParticipant]

 Curry makes way more sense. Not that level of shooter, though. 

[barbabodomParticipant]

 Him and James Blackmon from Indiana are two SG freshmen who are impressing me A LOT

[barbabodomParticipant]

 Him and James Blackmon from Indiana are two SG freshmen who are impressing me A LOT

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Watched him play a few times this year he has been very impressive and he reminds me of Greivis Vasquez with more athletisism and strength. Comparing him to Harden off of statistics is a huge stretch especially before conference or tournament play. Also Harden made huge improvements as a rookie and sophomore in the NBA and was questioned as far as his in game athletisism goes before the draft combine. To me they are very different and it is very hard to compare anyone to an NBA Superstar let alone Dangelo Russell.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Watched him play a few times this year he has been very impressive and he reminds me of Greivis Vasquez with more athletisism and strength. Comparing him to Harden off of statistics is a huge stretch especially before conference or tournament play. Also Harden made huge improvements as a rookie and sophomore in the NBA and was questioned as far as his in game athletisism goes before the draft combine. To me they are very different and it is very hard to compare anyone to an NBA Superstar let alone Dangelo Russell.

[laxmisonParticipant]

I would say delonte west, with more upside 

[laxmisonParticipant]

I would say delonte west, with more upside 

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