[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

As a Mavericks fan, WHAT EXACTLY is Cuban and company doing? Does anyone have an idea of what he’s trying to accomplish? I know the DJ Decision didn’t leave us much, but who’s fault was it that he put all his eggs on DeAndre Jordan. I understand we want to give the Celtics as worst a pick as possible but our moves make no sense. We just gave Wesley Matthews (29 and coming off a ruptured achilles) a max contract. Instead of letting Barea walk like I hoped, we signed him to a 4year contract as well which guarantees 4 more years of Carlisle playing him. SMH

When we broke up our championship team, the rationale was that we didn’t want to become old and mediocre. Well that is exactly what we are. Parsons and Matthews aren’t "old", but we know what they are and both are coming off of major injuries. We’d be lucky if they match previous production. Dirk is 37, we know his jumper is still great but even last year he battled with consistency, that only increases with age. The rest of our players and bench aren’t even really worth mentioning. We could have taken a chance on a prospect or at least used our cap to secure a protected 1st round pick. Shoot before the David Lee trade went through I would have offered to take Gerald Wallace from Boston simply in return for increasing the protection some on our pick. Instead we wasted it. 

I think Cuban ego has been our biggest problem, and ever since we actually won a championship it’s been even worse. Somehow he thinks he’s much smarter than all the other executives. People think Cuban was responsible for the Mavericks success but that’s incorrect. Don Nelson, and Dirk Nowitzki were mostly responsible for the Mavericks becoming and being great. Cuban played a role, but much like Jerry Jones it went to his head (notice the Cowboys are a lot better with Stephen Jones really running the team). Guess we can look forward to keeping the powder dry again next year. 

[doubledribblerParticipant]

You pretty much hit the nail on the head about everything. Cuban hasn’t been the same since they won the championship, but no one should kid themselves and pretend that he is some kind of great owner. The team has won all these years with some great talent, most which was acquired because he kept his wallet open and would take on any and every contract.

Missing out on Jordan was a blessing. He’s good, but he doesn’t make Dallas a contender. They stay competitive and in the middle of the pack which Cuban has even criticized. To make things worse, both Matthews and Barea got RAISES just because he didn’t show up. Guys agreed to lesser deals and were fine with them. They have missed on pretty much every pick they have made. You could put names in a hat and are more likely to at least come out with a guy that actually sticks in the NBA past his rookie deal than the Mavs are.

This is another reason I will never criticize a Superstar player for taking the money. Even if Dirk isn’t worth it now, he gave up money to play on a borderline playoff team. They were better when he was making his 18-20 million. They used that money to get him a guy off a bad basketball injury, Chandler Parsons, and re-sign Barea. He could still be making his 18-20 and they could have likely gotten those same guys on cheaper deals. Everyone needs to remember that the Spurs are always the exception…they have coaching, they take care of their player’s health, they always bring in talent and they are always competing for a championship. If you take a discount the owner is either going to pocket it or overpay some guy from another team.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

You pretty much hit the nail on the head about everything. Cuban hasn’t been the same since they won the championship, but no one should kid themselves and pretend that he is some kind of great owner. The team has won all these years with some great talent, most which was acquired because he kept his wallet open and would take on any and every contract.

Missing out on Jordan was a blessing. He’s good, but he doesn’t make Dallas a contender. They stay competitive and in the middle of the pack which Cuban has even criticized. To make things worse, both Matthews and Barea got RAISES just because he didn’t show up. Guys agreed to lesser deals and were fine with them. They have missed on pretty much every pick they have made. You could put names in a hat and are more likely to at least come out with a guy that actually sticks in the NBA past his rookie deal than the Mavs are.

This is another reason I will never criticize a Superstar player for taking the money. Even if Dirk isn’t worth it now, he gave up money to play on a borderline playoff team. They were better when he was making his 18-20 million. They used that money to get him a guy off a bad basketball injury, Chandler Parsons, and re-sign Barea. He could still be making his 18-20 and they could have likely gotten those same guys on cheaper deals. Everyone needs to remember that the Spurs are always the exception…they have coaching, they take care of their player’s health, they always bring in talent and they are always competing for a championship. If you take a discount the owner is either going to pocket it or overpay some guy from another team.

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Mavs got a steal in Justin Anderson. Really like his game watching him. Should be a very productive player with a long Nba career.

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Mavs got a steal in Justin Anderson. Really like his game watching him. Should be a very productive player with a long Nba career.

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

I don’t get the Barea contract either ,I would have liked Barea for 2 years contract for sure as he is a good player but 4 years? I didn’t even see a single Mavs fan who like the deal
The team right now is constructed to be Carlisle team but what if he decided not to renew?
The only thing that those deals might make sense is that he is trying to hold onto Carlisle putting a roster from players he likes

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

I don’t get the Barea contract either ,I would have liked Barea for 2 years contract for sure as he is a good player but 4 years? I didn’t even see a single Mavs fan who like the deal
The team right now is constructed to be Carlisle team but what if he decided not to renew?
The only thing that those deals might make sense is that he is trying to hold onto Carlisle putting a roster from players he likes

[llperez]

 dallas might of had the worst summer of anyone in my book. What I really dont understand is that they had deals in agreement for both mathews and barea, but when the deandre thing went down, instead of sticking to those original deals and saving the money from deandre’s lost deal, they turned around and gave extra moeny to those two? makes no business sense. mathews might be the most overpaid player from this summer full of overpaid players. I really hope the mavericks suck this year, i hate watching stupidly managed teams. Anyone want ot disagee with what I said?

[llperez]

 dallas might of had the worst summer of anyone in my book. What I really dont understand is that they had deals in agreement for both mathews and barea, but when the deandre thing went down, instead of sticking to those original deals and saving the money from deandre’s lost deal, they turned around and gave extra moeny to those two? makes no business sense. mathews might be the most overpaid player from this summer full of overpaid players. I really hope the mavericks suck this year, i hate watching stupidly managed teams. Anyone want ot disagee with what I said?

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

In Cuban defense Wes deal was agreed prior to Jordan commitment and it had 2 scenarios
1-we sign DJ so Wes get a pay cut to allow DJ deal to happen
2-We don’t get DJ so he gets the Max .
So we didn’t give Wes extra money just because DJ change minds (though it can look this way) ,we just honoured our initial agreement
The Barea deal didn’t make sense ,the best offer he got was 2 years from Miami and we gave him more money and more years?wtf

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

In Cuban defense Wes deal was agreed prior to Jordan commitment and it had 2 scenarios
1-we sign DJ so Wes get a pay cut to allow DJ deal to happen
2-We don’t get DJ so he gets the Max .
So we didn’t give Wes extra money just because DJ change minds (though it can look this way) ,we just honoured our initial agreement
The Barea deal didn’t make sense ,the best offer he got was 2 years from Miami and we gave him more money and more years?wtf

[llperez]

 didnt know that. Still doesnt make it any better

[llperez]

 didnt know that. Still doesnt make it any better

[Flameres15Participant]

The J.J. Barea deal wasn’t about outbidding anyone else, rather loyalty and respect. Mark Cuban is the best owner by far. He cares deeply about this team, which is why he targets who he targets. The DJ commitment was amazing, and I thought we were looking at possible title contention, rather than playoff contention, but life happens. I don’t like the hasty trade for Zaza Pachulia. He isn’t much of a defender, and I think a possible trade down the line would have made more sense. I think signing a temporary starting center would have been a better option. JaVale McGee, Kendrick Perkins, Emeka Okafor, Samuel Dalembert, and Ryan Hollins are still potential options. Obviously getting older isn’t in the plan, but these deals allow the Mavs flexiblity during the trade deadline. I actually like the Deron Williams signing because he is going to be desperate. He knows this is his final chance, and if he messes up he won’t play again. He also knows he needs to play well, so he can earn a larger contract.

[Flameres15Participant]

The J.J. Barea deal wasn’t about outbidding anyone else, rather loyalty and respect. Mark Cuban is the best owner by far. He cares deeply about this team, which is why he targets who he targets. The DJ commitment was amazing, and I thought we were looking at possible title contention, rather than playoff contention, but life happens. I don’t like the hasty trade for Zaza Pachulia. He isn’t much of a defender, and I think a possible trade down the line would have made more sense. I think signing a temporary starting center would have been a better option. JaVale McGee, Kendrick Perkins, Emeka Okafor, Samuel Dalembert, and Ryan Hollins are still potential options. Obviously getting older isn’t in the plan, but these deals allow the Mavs flexiblity during the trade deadline. I actually like the Deron Williams signing because he is going to be desperate. He knows this is his final chance, and if he messes up he won’t play again. He also knows he needs to play well, so he can earn a larger contract.

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Yea and then thy signed D-Will, who I love, but also who will screw up a possible tanking season. I mean, it was the right thing to do, considering they lost out on DJ and also lost two of their top 3 players in Monta and Tyson. Dirk’s not getting any younger and they need a new face to hand over the keys to. Another season as the 8th seed absolutely suck for this team.

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Yea and then thy signed D-Will, who I love, but also who will screw up a possible tanking season. I mean, it was the right thing to do, considering they lost out on DJ and also lost two of their top 3 players in Monta and Tyson. Dirk’s not getting any younger and they need a new face to hand over the keys to. Another season as the 8th seed absolutely suck for this team.

[CynthiaParticipant]

I love the Mavs, and I was a bit irked about the Jordan situation. But, honestly I think they’ve done pretty good despite it. They ended up getting Pachulia, he’s no DJ but he’s actually a very solid rebounder that can also score in the post & make mid range shots. I think he will mesh good with Dirk. I’ve always liked Pachulia’s game and felt no team has given him much of a chance to shine, maybe this will finally be his chance.

They added DWill. He’s a shell of his former self but he’s still an above average point guard that just needs the right fit, and obviously the Nets was not that fit. He has a lot of issues but I don’t think he will be near the disaster Rondo was for the Mavs last year. I’m hoping for a decent comeback season for DWill.

Wesley Matthews definitely got paid, but when healthy he’s one of the best true 3 & D guys in the league. He’s no All-Star but he’s a great glue guy, someone every team needs & wants. As someone mentioned above his deal was agreed upon before the DJ fiasco, so I’m glad they honoured the deal in the end. Let’s hope he can stay healthy.

They just signed Jeremy Evans, this will give them some versatility. Depending on their opposing lineups they can go with Dirk & Zaza for more of a bruiser lineup, or Evans & Dirk for more of a small-ball lineup. Evans can also play the small forward but then he’s likely to take more 3’s and no one wants to see that. However, maybe Dirk can actually teach him how to shoot, that would be a blessing in disguise.

Overall I think they improved, Zaza for a 2nd rounder is a steal, Justin Anderson in the draft may be a steal. A lineup of DWill, Wes Matthews, Parsons, Dirk, Pachulia is nothing to scoff at, and then they have Jeremy Evans, Justin Anderson, Devin Harris, Raymond Felton and an improving Dwight Powell off the bench. Another dark horse could be Satnam Singh, I’ve seen him play a little bit and I think he can be a solid backup in the NBA for quite a while.

The only true head-scratcher move for the Mavs was Barea, I love Barea he’s erratic and fun to watch, but when it comes down to it he’s just more negative than positive, I could see a 1-2 year deal if they felt like there weren’t many better options for a backup PG, but I don’t think 4 years was a good idea, especially since they have Devin Harris & Raymond Felton, neither are the players they used to be but I’d consider both better than Barea.

 

[CynthiaParticipant]

I love the Mavs, and I was a bit irked about the Jordan situation. But, honestly I think they’ve done pretty good despite it. They ended up getting Pachulia, he’s no DJ but he’s actually a very solid rebounder that can also score in the post & make mid range shots. I think he will mesh good with Dirk. I’ve always liked Pachulia’s game and felt no team has given him much of a chance to shine, maybe this will finally be his chance.

They added DWill. He’s a shell of his former self but he’s still an above average point guard that just needs the right fit, and obviously the Nets was not that fit. He has a lot of issues but I don’t think he will be near the disaster Rondo was for the Mavs last year. I’m hoping for a decent comeback season for DWill.

Wesley Matthews definitely got paid, but when healthy he’s one of the best true 3 & D guys in the league. He’s no All-Star but he’s a great glue guy, someone every team needs & wants. As someone mentioned above his deal was agreed upon before the DJ fiasco, so I’m glad they honoured the deal in the end. Let’s hope he can stay healthy.

They just signed Jeremy Evans, this will give them some versatility. Depending on their opposing lineups they can go with Dirk & Zaza for more of a bruiser lineup, or Evans & Dirk for more of a small-ball lineup. Evans can also play the small forward but then he’s likely to take more 3’s and no one wants to see that. However, maybe Dirk can actually teach him how to shoot, that would be a blessing in disguise.

Overall I think they improved, Zaza for a 2nd rounder is a steal, Justin Anderson in the draft may be a steal. A lineup of DWill, Wes Matthews, Parsons, Dirk, Pachulia is nothing to scoff at, and then they have Jeremy Evans, Justin Anderson, Devin Harris, Raymond Felton and an improving Dwight Powell off the bench. Another dark horse could be Satnam Singh, I’ve seen him play a little bit and I think he can be a solid backup in the NBA for quite a while.

The only true head-scratcher move for the Mavs was Barea, I love Barea he’s erratic and fun to watch, but when it comes down to it he’s just more negative than positive, I could see a 1-2 year deal if they felt like there weren’t many better options for a backup PG, but I don’t think 4 years was a good idea, especially since they have Devin Harris & Raymond Felton, neither are the players they used to be but I’d consider both better than Barea.

 

[KerouacJackParticipant]

 If they manage to sign Jeremy Tyler to a multi year deal, I will forgive the terrible Barea deal. 

[KerouacJackParticipant]

 If they manage to sign Jeremy Tyler to a multi year deal, I will forgive the terrible Barea deal. 

[r377Participant]

The Mavs just signed John Jenkins for the minimum. Good low risk pickup. Jenkins has had some injury probs since turning pro but I did like him as a prospect coming out of college….

[r377Participant]

The Mavs just signed John Jenkins for the minimum. Good low risk pickup. Jenkins has had some injury probs since turning pro but I did like him as a prospect coming out of college….

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

richard jefferson just signed a 1 yr deal with the cavs…….

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

richard jefferson just signed a 1 yr deal with the cavs…….

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

Yeah ,btw he asked Cuban b4 accepting the deal btw and told him if the Mavs want him to stay he will honour his word which was classy move by him
But Cuban told him he is free to go ,
it seem we are actually believing in Justin Anderson and he will be our main back up 3 and RJ was just going to cut his minutes
Don’t get me wrong ,he was good contributor last year but it is time to favor the young players .it was the best for everyone that he will go to the Cavs

[khaled_a_dParticipant]

Yeah ,btw he asked Cuban b4 accepting the deal btw and told him if the Mavs want him to stay he will honour his word which was classy move by him
But Cuban told him he is free to go ,
it seem we are actually believing in Justin Anderson and he will be our main back up 3 and RJ was just going to cut his minutes
Don’t get me wrong ,he was good contributor last year but it is time to favor the young players .it was the best for everyone that he will go to the Cavs

[HitsterParticipant]

 The Mavs seemed to take their foot off the pedal a bit after they won their title back in 2011 and have had various line ups around Dirk since then. 

I cannot see the Mavs winning 50 games like they did last year, Zara, D-Will and Matthews don’t equate to what Chandler, Rondo and Ellis gave them IMO and Dirk is another season older.

The Mavs still have a good starting 5 and should have a winning season but out West that might not even be good enough for the play offs. 

They have committed a fair amount of money to Matthews but are paying D-Will a bargain salary and Zara is on an expiring deal.

I feel that Dallas tried to rebuild last year and have a real run at it, a lot of that team have moved on and they have tried to do the same again. I wonder if Mark Cuban wants to try and keep the team relevant whilst Dirk is still there and then really rebuild when Dirk retires, 

They have decent role players in place so could attract a top FA in a couple of year’s time perhaps.

Also if they did go into a post Dirk rebuild and decided to tank for a year or two, the likes of Matthews and Parsons could be traded to a contender for possible picks down the line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 The Mavs seemed to take their foot off the pedal a bit after they won their title back in 2011 and have had various line ups around Dirk since then. 

I cannot see the Mavs winning 50 games like they did last year, Zara, D-Will and Matthews don’t equate to what Chandler, Rondo and Ellis gave them IMO and Dirk is another season older.

The Mavs still have a good starting 5 and should have a winning season but out West that might not even be good enough for the play offs. 

They have committed a fair amount of money to Matthews but are paying D-Will a bargain salary and Zara is on an expiring deal.

I feel that Dallas tried to rebuild last year and have a real run at it, a lot of that team have moved on and they have tried to do the same again. I wonder if Mark Cuban wants to try and keep the team relevant whilst Dirk is still there and then really rebuild when Dirk retires, 

They have decent role players in place so could attract a top FA in a couple of year’s time perhaps.

Also if they did go into a post Dirk rebuild and decided to tank for a year or two, the likes of Matthews and Parsons could be traded to a contender for possible picks down the line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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