CP3 and D12
Do you guys think both end up playing together on the same team or do they stay put? There are lots of rumors that they are conspiring to team up lol. They were also spotted having dinner in Hollywood a few days ago. Dwightmare all over this guy just doesn't know what he wants to do. LOL.
Doesn't matter they still won't win a title..
They certainly would have a good shot at winning a title if they team up. Just imagine if they end up in Dallas having Dirk, Dwight, and CP3. That alone will compete for a title IMO. Dwight wasn't his complete self last year and was still putting up All Star numbers I see him a lot better this upcoming season.
This rumor of them teaming up has to be coming from Howard's people. Howard is a mental midget. I'm not sure why CP3 would want to team up with him. CP3 is actually a lot like Kobe as far as his mentality goes. We saw how Kobe and Dwight interacted.
But Paul would actually feed Dwight in his sweet spots.
What sweet spot? a lob pass?
Defenses won't give up many lobs in the post season. This is where if you're named Dwight or Blake you get exposed.
Dwight is a bigger Blake. Weak/Avg post game, little/no respect outside of the paint, poor ft shooter, thinks he should be the number one option. Smh. Can someone please get these guys some help.
The problem with Dwight is that he thinks he's better than he is. To him, his sweet spot is on the block with his back to the basket with 4 teammates spreading the floor. He's not content being a screener, roller, o-rebounder, finisher...which is how i think he should be used. He wants to be a back to the basket, dominant center who a team can build its offense around, which he is not. His post game is pretty good, but he has limited range which limits the areas he can post from. He's a poor passer out of double teams, he's very deliberate, chews up the clock, is a prime candidate to get stripped or fouled where he doesn't make his FTs.
He's a cancer. He ruined the New Orleans franchise by forcing out Darren Collison and then leaving. Now he's calling the shots in LA, ran Vinny out, hell, even Chauncey Billups wants to leave now. CP3 will never win a ring.
None of this is true.
Forcing out Collison? Even if true, which I doubt, WGAF? It's Darren Collison. How does his lack of presence ruin that franchise?
Chris Paul was traded. Even if he forced their hand it was the right move because that franchise was in limbo and was going nowhere.
He SHOULD be calling the shots in LA. He was the smartest guy on that team, including the coaching staff. Vinny got himself fired (actually, just not renewed) because he's a crap, cheerleader coach who has no offense. Billups is on his last leg and looking to go ring chasing.
He is similar to Kobe because he's an as$holish, cutthroat competitor who can annoy his own teammates with how competitive he is. In fact that's what happened this yr with the Clips. Blake and DeAndre were complaining that CP3 was on them too much. Now replace Blake and DeAndre with Dwight and you'll probably get the same reaction. Dwight just wants to smile, be a clown, be marketable and have fun. He doesn't need Kobe or CP3 cramping his style with their competitive nature.
I'm glad you beat me to this response, you summed it all up quite nicely. I'll continue to say this though: Lebron scared a lot of GM's by leaving Cleveland high and dry. Its not Chris Paul's fault he's a franchise player. Stop faulting him for decisions he hasn't made. He never said trade Collison, New Orleans wanted to show their commitment to him. He never said trade him, New Orleans just didn't want to risk loosing everything and starting over. He never said fire Vinny Del Negro. The bottom line is GM's like him and want him as part of their organization. They recognize that if their team isn't making him happy there are other teams that can and will. A GM will do whatever they can to make Chris Paul happy if they don't think they can its time to trade him before they become the new Cleveland.
I don't know if it is going to happen because the only team with the cap space to make this happen as of now are the Atlanta Hawks. We know Dwight if from the ATL so that could make sense but I heard that CP3 doesn't want to play in Atlanta....the reason....They could have already had him if they drafted him in 2005 but they took Marvin Williams instead even though they needed a PG. I know it is 8 years later but players don't forget that kind of thing.
Houston could possibly make it happen if they find somebody to trade T-Rob, Asik and another player or two. Dallas makes sense because a lot of people have good things to say about Cuban as an owner and they already have Dirk who has won a title. I know they don't have many players under salary so they have probably been eying this possibility for a while.
I would say the chances they play together next season are under 50% at this time but we will see what happens.
I remember reading that Dwight doesn't want to go to ATL even though it's his hometown.
I'm not sure why people keep mentioning Dallas a possible destination for both of them. Dallas will barely able to fit one max player in while filling out the rest of their roster, let alone go after two. Just Dirk and Marion are on the books for $33 million next season, add in Vince Carter at just over 3 million and you have 3 guys on the books for over $36 million. They're gonna need to sign another 10 guys with around $24 million to spend, Dwight AND CP3 is not happening unless Dirk and Marion take a huge pay cut.
They could do it but they might have to use their draft pick to help move Marion to a team with cap space. I think Carter could be moved for non guaranteed contracts that they could shed. Someone would take OJ Mayo off their hands no problem if he opts in. They then could use the full MLE and the Bi annual to obtain 2 or 3 players.Then they would have to fill out the roster with 1 year min deals.
It would be hard for most teams to make the necessary cap space to sign both of them. Mark Cuban admitted that there is no way that the Mavs could sign 2 max contracts. There is no way the Lakers trade Howard to Clippers for anything short of Blake Griffin, and no way the Clips trade Paul to the Lakers. Atlanta could be the best option. They can clear space to sign both and have positioned themselves to do so. However, i don't think the Hawks have the fan base to bring superstar players like Howard and Paul. I can't see them wanting to play in Atlanta. I think Daryl Morey has always tried to positioned the rockets to exactly this by securing young assets. His philosophy was to bring max players to the rockets. They can clear out enough cap space with team options and trades to sign Howard and Paul with Harden, but they have to find takers for Lin and Asik, how have 14 million contracts after next year. They will also have to be okay with loosing Parsons after his rookie is up.
Will be interesting to see if teams play in with Howard and Paul.
Considering how popular this idea of "power teams" is becoming as of late it wouldnt surprise me. But no, I don't think they'll end up playing on the same team next year. As far as them leaving/staying with the Lakers/Clippers, it's really up in the air although I do believe Howard will be in a new uniform come opening night.
haha they would of been playing together if David Stern wasn't a hater..
Imagine Houston: Dwight, Harden and Paul. Mercy.
"Atlanta could be the best option. They can clear space to sign both and have positioned themselves to do so. However, i don't think the Hawks have the fan base to bring superstar players like Howard and Paul. I can't see them wanting to play in Atlanta."
So you think if the Hawks got Paul and Howard no one would go the games? Cmon Phillps Arena would be sold out every game if that was the case...it's not like ATL is a small market.
they could hook up in Utah... just sayin.
SG Burks/Hardaway Jr.
SF Elder Hayward/not so marvelous Marvin/Junkyard Dawg
PF Officer Favors/Human Pogo Stick
I say CP3 stays with the clipper. He's made his home there, with the "lob city". D12 leaves for the east to pair up with Rondo and the C's. but that's if they can get the cap space to work.
i could see a Dwight sign and trade to the Clips for Blake and Bledsoe. Makes a lot of sense actually.
If your the Clips why give up Blake and Bledsoe for an injury riddled big man who's on the downside of his career in my opinion. He has not been the same since his back surgery and probably never will be the same again.
an injury riddled big man who's on the downside of his career in my opinion. He has not been the same since his back surgery and probably never will be the same again.
This is going to come off a bit harsh but that is one of the most ignorant posts I've seen on here in awhile.
Believe me, after Dwight left Orlando I want to hate him as much as anyone but this is just ridiculous.
Injury riddled? From 2005-2011 he missed a total of 7 games. The last 2 years which relatively speaking have been his most "injury riddled" he's missed an average of 9 games per season. Missing 12 out of 66 games in 2012 and 6 out of 82 games this past season does not make someone "injury riddled"
He has not been the same since his back surgery? You mean the major back surgery he had 13 months ago? This might surprise you but It usually takes longer than 7 or 8 months to completely recover from a surgery like that. It's way too early to make such a statement.
Even after that surgery wer'e talking about a 27 year old who led the league in RPG with 12.4, and averaged 2.4 BPG and 17.1 PPG on 58 FG%. Even if he's in your own words "never the same again", which is apparently based on your opinion off his play over a couple months, he's still a better center than anyone else in the league.
Imagine if the Knicks would of stayed patient and never signed amare...
They signed Amare in hopes to lure Lebron in to join before he took his talents to...well....y'know.(Free Agency 2010), but I agree. I still look back and think that deal was a terrible move for the organization and now they're stuck with him.
Or just not wasted the amnesty clause on Chauncey Billups
The Amare deal wouldnt really be a problem right now if they didnt piss away the Amnesty. The problem is that Donnie Walsh opted in on Billups team option for 14 million. He then amnestied him 3 months later and signed Chandler. Im a Knick fan but this is just another example of how poorly managed the franchise is. Instead of just letting Billups walk for nothing they hand him 14 million dollars and cut him, in the process using the amnesty. Personally I dont think Tyson Chandler was such have to have guy to make that move .Also knowing Amares injury history not to hold on to it was flat out stupid. Think about the spot the Knicks would of been in had they not used the amnesty on Billups. They could of played the season with Amare and Melo in 2012 saw Amare breaking down then amnestied him. plus with Billups coming off the books they would of had Melo plus 30 million in cap space last season. They could of signed Howard or Paul outright this offseason.
Amare was amazing for the knixks until melo came..
The Amare pick up was a fine move. Who know his body would break down this bad...
CP3 will resign with Clippers ,and try to add pieces from FA and Draft.... Dwight resign with Lakers, then amnesty Kobe and try to add pieces from FA and Draft
+The most recent CBA will probably have a big affect on where D12 and CP3 go as they leave a lot of money on the table if they move on. Plus if say D12 did want to join CP3 at the Clippers would he take the salary hit whilst CP3 took the best deal possible.
If D12's people are pushing the hook up then I do wonder if CP3 might say to him, I'll do it but you take the salary hit. If CP3 isn't wanting D12 to be his running mate as a guarantee for him to join a certain team he might say D12 will be great to have on board but work his salary around mine.
Also if Dallas did make a run on both and say D12 was desperate to get on the same roster as CP3 then D12 could just take a smaller salary for one year then go onto max salary for the next 3 years. That is no different to how Houston did Lin and Asik's deals and Dallas could then work Dirk's 2014-15 contract around CP3's and D12's
Im not sure about how the luxury tax would go, but I could see the Lakers(Im not a Laker fan, but I would be thinking this)
#1 amnisty Kobe
#2 resigning D.Howard
#3 get CP3 to ink a deal
#4 and then resign Kobe to a new deal (they're gonna need Kobe lol)
Right now I think that would be great for the Lakers and makes a much better team than what the Clippers and Hawks could put together with D.Howard and CP3.
They could possibly also go after Iggy! too (that would involve maybe sending Nash or even a few players to the Mavericks or Nuggets in a 3 way trade with the Lakers)
A team with Kobe, Howard and CP3 on the Lakers might just have enough power to really contest for a title against teams like the Heat, Spurs and OKC more so that a Clippers team with D.Howard and CP3 but no Griffin!
mrhancoc you are a complete and utter idiot.
Forte IV, Now no need to start attacking members, just focus on the discussion. If you think it was a bad idea just say so, i can respect that but what you've started, well its on you just like its ya Dad's dick in your ass &$#%#&@!, ass to mouth is what they call it, for u its a job hater ha ha
I'm calling you a idiot because you have no idea how the CBA works and are just throwing out completely impossible ideas. If the Lakers amnesty Kobe they can't just instantly re-sign him. Then add in the fact that even if an amnestied Kobe the Lakers can't sign both Chris Paul and Dwight Howard.