Cousins ejected again - how long can the Kings ignore his outbursts?
Cousins was ejected again after he called the ref a fckin female against the Jazz AT HALFTIME!
I mean he is too talented to just throw him out or give up on him but how far has this come and where should this end? Keith Smart was completely upset after Cousins started talking to him and the refs. I mean some people believe Cousins has to hit rock bottom until he really goes of and gets his head straight like I believe but if the Kings do not respond to this actions he will never learn what's not okay and what's classless and unacceptable.
They need to trade him or he needs to be suspended from the team for a major amount of games if you ask me. There will never be silence with him acting like a child. I'm from germany and if a Soccer player would do things like this over here or in the Premier League this guy would be thrown out no matter how talented he is.
Personally I would trade him for a vet, a talent and a high 2014 lottery pick, this needs to come to an end even if he grows into a man and a better player somewhere else.
Do you still see a future for him on this team? Is he just untradeable until the new owners say he should be moved? What are your thoughts?
I think he needs a no nonsense coach like Thibs or Pop. I have absolutely no idea if those two franchises will roll the dice on this guy, but I think he will simply walk over the majority of coaches in the league. Too bad because there is no doubting this guy's ability.
I completely agree with you! But I don't see any of this teams making a move for him. Maybe Boston tries to go after him but honestly I doubt this whole Cousins drama will end very well for him. How can you be so dumb and talented and still be the main man for a NBA franchise. It's sad that players nowadays have so much power like Melo and Dwight showed us already.
Agreed....The entire ongoing Dwight saga has been an embarrassment to the league. The most consistently successful franchises in the league (San Antonio, Oklahoma City and smartly managed smaller market teams like Indiana, Utah and Portland) have always tried to put the franchise over any individual player. While I understand that all of those franchises have been gifted with incredibly gifted and emotionally stable franchise players over the years (Duncan, Durant, Stockton/Malone, Reggie Miller and.... Well, I guess Portland had Brandon Roy for a minute!) they have also never shied away from dealing high level talent if that player or players were a distraction. Utah dealt Deron Williams when he became a problem, Indiana moved Stephen Jackson and Ron Artest, and Portland traded Rasheed Wallace after that experiment failed, as well as Zach Randolph. Cousins is a high level talent, to be sure, but is he really worth all this headache? His skill set is overshadowed by his poor decision making, lack of effort and focus and the endless on and off court disruption that he seems to be providing. Maybe he improves in another location, but for the foreseeable future, the Kings/Sonics should cash out.
Or his fg%, don't understand why everyone is in love with him. I love his skill set and potential, but someone needs to get a hold of him, 44% is a serious problem!!!
I wouldn't trade him at all. He's still the most talented player on the team.
Yes, he needs to grow up, but I also think that refs are looking to T him up. With the reputation that he has, he doesn't just have to correct his behavior, he has to be a f%&^in saint on the court. If he talked to the refs like LeBron talks to the refs, he would've been suspended 3 times over.
I'd at least give him a shot under a new regime and coaching staff in Seattle. The Kings are inept from top to bottom. At least in Seattle the new owners would be less averse to ponying up money for competent coaches.
I agree that the coach can make a big difference. He's not the first talented player that wants to do whatever he wants. He just needs a tighter hand on him.
I don't think it's a matter of him wanting to do whatever he wants to do and getting in trouble because of that. His demeanor reminds me of young Sheed a little bit, but Sheed was a lot worse. Their problem on the court is that if they feel like they're wronged (like hacked with no foul called, whistled for what they think is a BS foul, given a T unjustifiably,etc) they HAVE to voice their displeasure and they HAVE to have an explanation. Cousins just needs to learn to let things go, move on and accept the fact that he's reffed differently because of his size and his reputation.
This Sacramento/Seattle team is a wreck... Two "stars" (Evans and Cousins) whose games aren't complementary at all, and so much positional duplication....Even though trading him this season or offseason represents selling him lower than one would like, I believe that Cousins overall potential and skill set are worth a ton on the open market. Trading him for picks in the 2014 draft and a role player or players either on rookie contracts or cheap/expiring deals would allow whoever the new GM in Seattle will be to rebuild the team the correct way; from the ground up. With only four players under guaranteed deals ( and team options for three others) after 2014/15, things could be looking up (with a bit of luck) in as little as three years. The only player this team should be married to is Thomas Robinson, and not because I believe he is any kind of superstar. However, his potential as a rebounding monster and the fact that he is an incredibly recent draft pick who more likely than not is suffering from playing along side and sharing a locker room with a player as mercurial as Cousins.
Now hear me out...while I don't thik it will happen as I don't think any moves will be made till ownership is ironed out in Sac/seattle I think a trade would be good for both sides.
Sac is a mess period with no real direction. Toronto has decided to become a win now francise and admittidly will go into the tax if the right deal came along.
Cousins for Val is what im proposing, maybe with maybe other pieces going along each way.
For the Raps you become very relevent in the east. Lowry,derozan,Gay,Amir and Cousins is a very good starting 5. Second unit of Lucas,Ross,Fields, Bargs and Grey. I would look for a better back up PG and thats a solid team. What I think the Raps lack is that charles okaley type mentality which Cousins would bring. For Couins its a fresh start playing with a very tight up and coming group. Raps live with some of his antics to get 17-10 each night. Would Cousins get enough touches though? Bargs could be amnesited in the summer to open up some room to resign cousins. I also worry about Vals delelopment in this win now scenario.
For the Kings, you get away from the insanity that is Cousins and you turn that into a high quality charictor who is hard worker and who many gm's are very high on. You also can develop him with Trob and you have a good foundation up front, hopefully getting shabazz or mclemore in this years draft. You also save yourself a year to figure things out as Val is only on year 1 of the 3 year rookie contract.
While I don't think it will happen for stated reasons its something that I think really would benifit both squads.
And lack of improvement is tearing the team apart. I notice how everyone loves to be board when Evans and Cousins are doing well, and off the wagon when they are doing poorly. Look, this team is suffering from lack of direction, a poorly constructed roster full of over paid rejects and a terrible coach.
Is Cousins worth the headache? Probably not, but he is talented and looking at his field goal percentage instead of the actual games is the first mistake a person can make. His field goal percentage reflects the terrible amount of jump shots, and wild contested layups he takes. Its the exact same problem with Tyreke Evans whom I might add has improved his three point percentage. All in all Evans jumper has started to fall but he loses confidence in it the minute one clanks off the rim. Yet he has nobody to tell him you have to have a short term memory to survive in any professional sport. Thats the coaches job. Demarcus continously puts his team in bad situations and gets worse with each loss. He needs to get some kind of help for anger management, that is the Kings organization's fault for tolerating his bull shit in the first place. Getting rid of players and then watching them grow into a stud elsewhere is not something i'm a fan of.
The Kings will not/can't make any roster moves because of the pending relocation. And I for one am glad. Neg me kings fans, because I have been one since I was 10 years old. But I think they should relocate and get that organization as far away from the Maloofs and that overrated GM Pettrie as possible. It starts at the top, and i'm pretty sure had Thomas, Cousins, Evans, Robinson, and even Jimmer had been put in a different situation their growth wouldn't have been stunted so bad.
Btw, you should look at JJ Hickson, Spencer Hawes, amongst other players that went to the Kings and saw their stats as well as effort take a dive. When they left they improved and atleast became decent role players on other teams. Its a bad situation over there, terrible and needs to cleaned up ASAP. And one more thing, can you honestly say giving up players for draft picks is always the right solution? Show me another upcoming impact player like Blake Griffin or Kyrie and then i'll take you seriously.
I couldnt trade him... He's a beast. His field goal percentage is not the highest, but his production is. He is not a problem on the court. He's by far the best player on the team and will be a dominant player for any team in the. His discipline is a problem, but he is young and can always grow-up. It's not like he's having a drug problem or criminal background. His problem all relate to his passion on the court. He is a trash talker, he feels like he can take on anybody and thats just him. Its always been him. If you're the Kings you dont trade him. But if you are him, you want a trade. WINNING CURES EVERYTHING.... trust me, if they were a legit team, Cousins wouldnt be out there getting T'd up and thrown out of games. One other thing, his past is always held against him. i've seen several times where he didnt even deserve a tech and the ref didnt hesitate only because he was Demarcus Cousins.
I think Greg Poppovich, Phil Jackson and maybe if Pat Reily was still coaching could handle this guy. Hes a train wreck and hes not worth all the headaches. Get rid of him and move on because its not going to get better. I dont know much about this guy before he was drafted, but if he was a headcase in college, they should havfe passed on him. Once a player is screwed up in the head college, you'll never change him because it only gets worse once you start throwing millions of dollars at them regardless of how "talented" a player he might be.
Poppovich is the only active coach that could straighten him out and get the most of out of him.
It's well Documented I think Cousins is a can't miss superstar and just needs the right team, I think almost every team in the league should try to trade for him. Here are some I think should happen.
1. Hornets' unprotected first round pick and Al Fararoq Aminu for Cousins and a bad contract
The Kings will probably try to send a bad contract as well, this gives the Hornets a Front court of Davis and Cousins, two dominant bigs for the future who compliment each other well.
2. Cleveland's top 10 protected pick(top 7 next year, top 5 the year after that, and then unprotected after that) and Dion Waiters for Cousins
Waiters has shown a lot of promise, and I think if a potential lotto pick coupled with Waiters should be enough to get the Kings to say yes, and pairs Cousins with Tristan Thompson in the front court, and they also have a solid backup big in Zeller now.
3. Washington's unprotected first round pick and Jan Vesely for Cousins
Again, the Kings get a high first rounder for Cousins, and Vesely is just.....well...... terrible to be honest, but I just guess the Kings can take a chance on a high lotto pick.
As you can see all of these deals involve lottery picks, I'm not sure the Kings will do it now(or even those other teams) but I can tell you one thing for sure, if the Kings see another prospect they really want in the draft in the top 5, they can easily offer Cousins to that team. Let me know if you guys think these trades are realistic.
AAMIR, If I were the kings, I would take anyone of those offers you mentioned just to get rid of Cousins. I would have to go with option 1 or 3. Hopefully they could land a high draft pick and then get another draft pick.
Winning is the cure all.
Cousins is missing right now. For anyone that says his on court behavior isn't a problem they must be retarded... his immaturity is keeping him off the court so yes it is a problem.
The Kings knew what they were getting when they drafted him so I don't feel sorry for him. Who I do feel sorry for is the players that come after Cousins and affected by and judged unfairly in the future because of the moron behavior exhibited by the over-rated player.
if your a GM in the nba and dumb enough to give a high draft pick away for Cousins, have fun b/c he isnt going to change and your stuck his disrespecful, lazy attitude. Talented, immature, disrespectful teammates are the worst kind of teammates because they set a poor example for those around them. Its a cancer in the lockeroom.
The guy just needs to get out of that losing culture that the Kings have become, and go to a solid team with solid coaching. Most of his outburst has come from his competitive nature and frustration of losing. Put this guy on a good team and he can easily become an All-Star Center.
He's really talented but he's not going to be able to help his team win until he's a like 10 year vet and learns how to play team defense
I am aware of all of the red flags, but all I'm trying to say is that despite all of the red flags, he's still worth the risk, that's all. I believe that his talent is too overwhelming to not take a chance on. He's just too good.