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Countering the word "POTENTIAL"

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Countering the word "POTENTIAL"

Okay so I saw the topic of "Potential" down below and I think that there is only one way to help eliminate the one variable that costs so many NBA personnel men their jobs... Fix the D-League!!

Now, I don't know how much people in this forum pay attention to the Minor Leagues, but it's a mess. I used to work for a minor league franchise (the PBL Rochester RazorSharks) so I know a little bit about the system. By my count, there are five Minor Leagues out there vying for the title of "The Best": D-League, PBL, IBL, WBA, and ABA.

The D-League is unquestionably the best of the five due to its NBA affiliation. Would the NBA adopting a "full fledged" minor league system (30 teams in the D-League, each owned by the NBA team) be a good way to have players fulfill their potential? What would its effects be on the NBA Draft? And most importantly: would it really work?


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D league

I would LOVE to see an improved Dleague.

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interesting

This is a great point. Holistically, this makes sense as it would allow NBA teams to develop players at their own pace. However, with the emergence of Europe as a vacuum for fringe NBA players, this new "super-minor-basketball-league" might not be as attractive to the players as one might think. For example, a few then-fringe NBA players have chosen to go overseas to hone their skills a la Anthony Parker. This way, the players get paid much more and face mostly high-level competition. They can get better in hopes of making it to the NBA while still getting paid. Also, with the economic downturn, teams will be less and less willing to send their million dollar prospects down to the minors where they'll have no contribution to the NBA club for 1 or 2 years, by when their rookie contracts are expiring (2nd rounders).

another thing...
While the minor league system is very prominent and successful(?) for baseball, it might not work for a sport which has a lot to do with teamwork and chemistry such as Basketball. Just imagine a minor league team doing extremely well during the season and then the NBA club decides, due to injured players recovering, to send their "high-potential, low
productivity
" prospect down to the minors to play 30 minutes a game. Despite the player's however high ceiling, inserting him into the lineup might be detrimental to the minor league team. I believe that eventually, fans (all 8 of them) will get fed up as the team is not geared towards winnign, but rather, developing players who the fans will never see regardless of how their play affects the minor team's performance.

again... baseball.....

In baseball, this system works because everyone bats separately, and the outfield shows little teamwork with anyone else except for cut offs. In this sport, you can throw in a hot shot prospect and see your team succeed. But again... in basketball, you have to know where your shots are coming from and what have you.

All in all, a great post by damaynman150; great discussion topic

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Those are all some good

Those are all some good points but the D League has done some surprising good stuff though. Also most of the D league players will be role players in the NBA anyway so if anything it teaches them to be flexible. The reason why the D league players for the most part are not moving up is because players are playing and making money longer in the NBA so it is point where there is a overabundance of talent and stupid GM who sign players that take up a spot and is not right for their team but they can't move. Every year people say the draft is weak and really it is not weak it is just not any certain stars and to be honest anyone can be a GM when everyone knows who the talented players are. It takes a real GM to find the talent then everyone else is not even the wiser. I have a lack of respect for some of the Gm's in the league because they really suck. I mean it is almost like they draft base on some else success and not actual scouting. I do see a lot of trends that happen in the NBA.

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so how bout this?

First off...thanks for reading my post....I have an idea about the d-league

What the NBA did this?

actually have 32 D-league teams.

then add a 3rd round....all players drafted in such round would be sent to the D-league team of the NBA franchise

have the traditional d-league draft and actually promote the d-league.

I actually went to a d-league game and it is int all half bad. Look at how many guys form the NCAA tourney play and after they lose....we never hear from them, by pushing the D-league...the word potential could be a thing of the past.

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@ QHaynes: Not sure if im

@ QHaynes: Not sure if im reading your post right, but no, the NBA has NOT done this yet. and its purely speculation on our parts about the D-League.

For those not "in the know" about the D-League (and sorry for sounding preachy or stuck up for those that do...), right now its just 16 teams, each ranging from 1-3 NBA affiliates. There are only 3 teams "vertically owned" by NBA parent clubs: The Los Angeles D-Fenders (Lakers), Austin Toros (Spurs) and Tulsa 66ers (Thunder).

A 30 team league would allow each minor league team to be staffed and coached by an NBA team and would allow total control over prospects. The could even be individually OWNED by outside investors (a la Minor Lg. Baseball) and just have personnel control by the NBA.

Now for pro's and cons:
PROS - place for prospects to get playing time, high competition, increased exposure for NBA in smaller cities, more opportunity.
CONS - "Purgatory" for veterans, relatively low salaries, increased payroll for NBA teams, unstable nature of Minor League basketball.

For whatever reason, Minor League hoops doesnt tend to have a rabid following like baseball does, mostly because the NCAA performs better than most AAA situations could anyways. but for those players who aren't quite good enough just yet, a minor league is ideal.

Finally, co-sign tli232. All of your concerns are very real and something that is stumping minor league franchise owners to this day, trust me. But one standardized NBA-sanctioned league would eliminate most of them! Thanks for all your imput and keep ideas coming!

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thought

they should allow players under the age limit to be drafted but have them play in the d-league untill they turn 19

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@ Moppelh

They do. There is no age limit in the D-League except for you need to be over 18.

Of course it would be stupid to "Jump" to the D-League when you could go overseas and make more money, but if you decided to, here is what could happen:

-Become eligible for NBA-DL draft. Sign an agent. Lose NCAA Eligibilty
-Go through D-League combines, etc.
-Be drafted. Sign contract WITH THE LEAGUE! (Note: Teams are not yet responsible for contracts, players sign a standard contract with the League office and are Placed on teams)
-If: You excel, you can get the NBA call-up or declare for NBA Draft (see: Mike Taylor)
You fail, too bad...?

Ok so this is very general and there are many sub-rules and exceptions, but for the most part, I am fairly sure this is how the system works. Don't quote me on it, and I'm sure you can get more exact info on the D-League website, etc.

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what if

What if the NBA made like a exception rule?

you can go from high school to NBA....but you go to that teams who drafts you D-league team

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I love the idea

Im all for expansion of anything that provides more opportunity. I think it could easily cover itself with ticket sales and whatnot, to eliminte the concern that it costs the NBA too much. In small towns with no hope of getting big time pro sports team, an official NBA subcomponent would be great fun for alot of people. This would improve the quality of the league as well, because the best players would be playing big leagues. In addition, D league teams would all have rising stars to market. In baseball, even alot of top picks go to the minors, its second nature. I dont see why that isn't bieng done now, there is a big step between bieng a good prospect and a good player that there isn't a well established bridge for yet. I hear more and more about the D league as of late, and really hope it plans to expand an give each team thier own development platform. It would give some small town people pro basketball to watch, and it would provide alot more opportunities for aspiring pro's, and improve the competition at the highest level. Alot of European clubs do it, I dont know why we havent got up to speed on this yet its a great idea.

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