Comparison for Klay Thompson?
I have narrowed down the Jazz's selection to two players. Klay Thompson and William Buford. They desperately need a 2 as their only true SG is Raja Bell who I envision as more of a bench player. I'd like to know how far the Jazz could go with either Thompson or Buford. Thompson looks like the better player because he scores more points but he also plays for a mid major and probably doesn't much competition like Buford does. So he might not be as good as his stats suggest. Then again he could be like Brandon Roy was in Washington or Landry Fields was n UCLA (I thinks that where he went to College, I know its a PAC-10 team) I'm not comparing Thompson to Roy or Fields I'm just saying that he could have that kind of output. Does he? Who does he compare to? Is he better than Buford? Would Thompson be a better fit with Utah or would Buford be the better fit.
Here are the stats for each players: Thompson=22.7ppg, 4.1apg, 5rpg, 0.8bpg, 1.9spg. Buford=13.6ppg, 3.6apg, 4.3rpg, 0.4bpg, and 1.1spg. Thompson shoots the 3 better at 43.7% while Buford shoots just 38.8% from the 3. What do you guys think?
just checked Fields went to Stanford not UCLA. sorry for the mistake. But still a PAC-10 team and a mid major as well so Thompson could still have the impact that Fields has.
Less athletic Kevin Martin?
I've been saying the same comparison for a year, he reminds me of chase buddinger with less hops but a little more driven and determined. Their styles of play are mirror images in my book. Both can hadnle and pass and have good jumers, but i dont see klay taking over games and he isnt gonna blow by guys in the nba off the dribble. I kinda doubt he has much more impact in the nba then what we have seen from chase either.
dwilljazz, did you just call stanford and washington state mid majors?
Last time I checked Stanford and Washingston State are mid majors. But maybe I'm wrong.
A less athletic Kevin Martin I'd be fine with that. The Jazz don't really need someone to take over a game. Just a 2 who is consistent and plays hard. Too bad he's not more athletic. But is he a better fit then William Buford or is Buford the better fit. Or is there another two player that might fall to the late first round. Maybe Travis Leslie?
a little FYI, teams from the pac 10, big east, acc, sec, big 10 and big 12 are not considered mid majors. Those are the big 6 conferences.
And as for the kevin martin comparison, klay is not as quick as kmart. KMart is one of the quickest players in the NBA and Klays biggest weakness might be his lack of quickness. ALso klay embrces more of a team role finding his teammates and creating offense for others.
I compare him to Anthony Parker though he's not even as good of an athlete as Parker is.... Parker is kind of a poor man's Rip Hamilton IMO anyway and that's the kind of player I think Thompson will be in the NBA.
Think he would fit perfectly. I see him as a jared dudly. Someone who a knock down hard nose player. Although i really like da1pot parker comparision.
just got done watching washiington state right now. Kaly had 16 points on 6-13 shooting with 8 boards and 4 assists, although he easily could have had a few more assists if guys didnt blow some easy shots. Washington state blew oregon out to improve to 12-4 This team really has more depth then i had expected coming into the season.
okay so maybe I don't know what a mid major is but what I'm trying to say is Roy, and Fields both went to Colleges that aren't widely known for good players yet that is exactly what happened with Roy and what is happening with Fields. I'm wondering if the same kind of thing would happen with Thompson but I guess not.
To me the Jazz seriously need an athletic 2 guard but at the same time he does not need to take the game over. From your guys post it does not sound like Thompson is that guy. If he were a little more athletic or a little faster with the ball then he'd be it, but maybe Buford is that guy or is it someone else like maybe Travis Leslie. Would Buford be a good fit for Utah?
You clearly do not understand what a mid major is. Both Stanford and UCLA play in the Pac-10, which is a BCS Conference.
Completely aside from that, UCLA is one of the winningest(7th or 8th I believe), most storied programs in Division 1 Men's Basketball history. John Wooden won 10 national titles there and coached all time greats such as Bill Walton and Lew Alcindor. More recently, Howland led them to three straight final fours, with players like Russell Westbrook and Daren Collison.
Ok back to my main question. Who is a better fit for Utah, Klay Thompson, William Buford, Travis Leslie or maybe Jordan Hamilton. Personally I think Hamilton is the best fit but would he be around by the time Utah is on the clock? I realize I don't understand what a mid-major is, so thanks for clearing that up, but that's besides the point. Back to the main question at hand.
Hamilton would be a weird fit for Jerry Sloan. He's the most talented scorer out of all of them, but he's not really the most devoted defender on the perimeter and he's not the most well-rounded player. I think him or Thompson would be the best choices though. Thompson would be used like Korver was, although he's not as deadly a shooter as Korver is/was.
I know who fits the Jazz perfectly though he needs to lose weight to be able to play shooting guard
Agree with Jnixon, Hamilton would be the best SG out of all of them but he would not fit well in the Jazz's system at all, I would pick Buford, dead on shooter, can play solid defense, is a team player, very selfless and would fit into their system pretty well.
Hamilton is your best choice IMO, simply because he can develop inot a go to perimeter scorer which IMO is EXACTLY why they have never been able to pull off the big dance even John and Karl. They always seem to have their great pg's and pf's but I never really recall any legit perimeter scoring threats who could get their own shots outside of the pg's. If you're going for a more traditional Sloan pick, I'd say Buford's teammate David Lighty. Smart, good/physial 2 guard defender, versatile, decent athlete (was better prior to two knee injuries), and can hit the open J.
Next I would say probably Buford for his jumpshooting and he too could at sum point develop into a go to scorer in the mold of a Rip Hamilton coming off of screens. Decent defender, decent versatility. Think a shorter slightly more polished and athletic CJ.
Next I'd go with Leslie, He'd really have to learn how to hit an open J, buit until then he could thrive off his ability to slash, rebound, defend, and get out in transistion.
Just say no to Klay Thompson. As a Jazz fan, can you remember your highly regarded, slow-footed Morris Almond. Best comparison in a nutshell. Will destroy Summer League/NCAA/EuroLeague type talents, but will have a LOT of trouble at the NBA level.
Klay Thompson = Francicsco Garcia
William Buford has all the tools to be an elite defender and could probably come in and start right away. Since the Jazz drafted Hayward this year I doubt they would get another extremely skinny wing in Thompson.
Jordan Hamilton would be the best pick if he were available but I wouldn't count on it in the 20's.
Another guy I think would fit the Jazz system really well is Chris Singleton who could come in a play Small Forward and provide the Jazz with another tough defensive minded forward.
"Just say no to Klay Thompson. As a Jazz fan, can you remember your highly regarded, slow-footed Morris Almond. Best comparison in a nutshell. Will destroy Summer League/NCAA/EuroLeague type talents, but will have a LOT of trouble at the NBA level"
That is actually a great comparison.
Jordan Hamilton could always learn to fit into that system. Its not like the player he his now is the player he's gonna be in the pros under a given system. And Texas now has ripped a few plays outta the Utah playbook since Barnes spent some time in Utah recently learning their offense. He'll initially play a role, and grow as a player. Right now Texas needs him to be aggressive and look for his shot or else they'll have little chance of winning, it would be diff in the pros. And when you play with D-Will the game will be very easy for him..
Yeah Hamilton would probably be their best bet in that system. William Buford is a guy I'm not really high on. He's not that good to me. He reminds me of Daequan Cook. But I do think Hamilton could buy in for Utah, much like Al Jefferson has had to.
Thanks for your help. Its looks like its either Hamilton or Buford. But probably Buford because it sounds like Hamilton will be gone by the mid-twenties.