Claiming Blake Griffin as white?
That's true and most bi-racial people I know are proud of both halfs.
I just think it's funny when a white person decides to "claim" a bi-racial player just because he can run fast, jump high and dunk, when they probably would've looked at him as just being black if he wasn't athletic or just a normal player. I don't see Skip Bayless claiming Taylor Griffin, Stephen Curry or Austin Daye... Why not? You should want to "claim" all bi-racial players. Not just the ones that make you feel good because they have white in them and can run and jump high.
i didnt watch the video becasue skip is an idiot so im not sure what he said but he trolls people and makes stories out of nothing all the time. i agree its dumb to try and "claim" someone of bi-race. I mean is there like a filing date or something? Is Landry FIelds still on the waiver wire? lol. But its true the majority of black/white people will often be viewed as black by the majority of society.
Sometimes I think they have Skip there just to be annoying.
Black and white people have been banging each other in this country since the beginning and almost every black person is at least a little white. That's why everyone in the NBA doesn't look like Luol Deng.
The only reason this is being talked about is because Blake is so light skinned and plays so well.
I despise Skip Bayless with a passion but I really have to give him credit here, his arguments were calm, clear and measured when he easily could have lost it and said something stupid. He makes a great point about how he went to school with Blake's white, red-haired mom, which therefore makes it hard for him (and now, me) to really view him as black. Bayless (and this should apply to everyone) never makes it a racial argument so much as a personal pride argument. Griffin is inarguably half white, so white people can take just as much pride in him as black people, even if the consensus is still that he is black.
Wow, I am so glad that Skip Bayless takes pride in him being a hwhite player. That means he would be the same color as cool hwhip! Seriously? We are having this discussion on television? So, he knows Blake Griffin's mom, take pride in that. But claiming him as a "hwhite" player, now really? So idiotic, I can not begin to understand why this is in discussion. 1st and 10 is maybe the worst show on ESPN. You take pride in someone being from your area or in knowing someone, there many reasons to be proud of someone. So, if he takes pride in knowing his mom, good for him, but to say he takes pride because he is "hwhite" is STUPID. Wish I never knew this existed as an argument on his ridiculous show.
If I have no right to take away the genetic birthright of my children neither should anyone else...Blake is Mixed and very much loved by both races...I think white Americans, black Americans and mixed Americans can all claim Blake as their own...it's his choice what culture he wants to embrace or not embrace...I personally think there are quite a few white American star athletes in the NBA...Kevin Love is having a tremendous season and he's white...Blake is different because he can become the face of the Nba someday...there will always be people trying to cause divide...we can't let that divide us...we all feel Blake is a phenomenal player and could care less if he was green let alone a mixed raced male with red hair freckles and black features...so what I'm a Hispanic male or in dnyce's words an Isrealite from the tribe of Ephriam that looks more Egyptian, Arabian or Black than Hispanic...do the Hispanics own my draft rights, can't I play for whatever team I want...isn't this the land of the free....home of the brave...
This topic is so dumb because all Black people have a White heritage somewhere along their past. Black Griffin looks White, but in Moorish Protocol he'd be considered the first line of Black. So, really, he is Black according to that science. Besides, we all know Blacks have far more dominant genes than Whites. It isn't even a contest. But I digress.
perez, you continue not to read what I write and choose your own assumptions but hey that is cool. There is a thing called reading in context and the thing is most of the people in the US are mutts or mixed to some degree. I have Indian possibly creole in my family. So Blake being half white mean nothing. He was black until he started playing great in a predominately black league and now all of a sudden he can be white. I used an example to my knowledge and I even put it Clinton is not black or has any black in him but does it matter consider we really dont know know. There are so many people that have different background and come from mixed situations that eventually you may not be able to tell the difference.
There are a lot of children of white men and black women. I have nieces that are mixed but I am pretty sure no one will consider them white unless they play ball and start dunking on people which could happen because they could both be over 6 feet with pretty good athletic genetics. I am not white so i may not understand the need to relate to a sport so bad that you try to make a person white just to feel proud.
Black people joked that Clinton who is white was black because of stuff he did while president and before but seriously we never thought he was black. At least I didn't.
David Lee is pretty good and athletic and he is homegrown white dude so why not just root for him. He was an All Star last year. I am pretty sure Blake does not consider himself white but then again he may not consider himself black either but mixed.
sheltwon, claiming bill clinton as being black does not make as much sense as claiming blake griffin is white.
neither make any sense to me but i guess using the fact that we know Blake is half white goes with Skip's argument and some others argument but I really dont see how this makes makes sense. That is my opinion and we all have our opinions and if Black being looked at as being white gives him more fans than more power to him.
Perez at what point did I say Bill Clinton was black, I said it was joked about and the key thing is a race claiming another race as being their race. This Blake Griffin is not about him being half white that is an excuse because there have been many mixed people all in Black history that were considered Black and will continue to be considered black. My thing is what has happened to change that. I have no issues with you perez because right now I am in your league and everything is cool but seriously man please read what I actually type and dont take it out of context.
Mixed race people have often been catergorised as black over the years and personally this has always seemed wrong to me. In the UK it happens as much as in America, I'd regard Blake Griffin as mixed race likewise Tiger Woods is mixed race and was never a young black inner city kid as some people seemed to portray him as. His father was a Colonel in the US Army I seem to recall so Tiger came from a fairly middle class background.
Loul Deng came to the UK from Sudan and then went to the US to persue his basketball career. Also loads of America and the UK claim to have some Irish heritage especially around St Patrick's Day. Actually I have found out that I'm 1/16th Irish as a Great Grandfather had Irish heritage.
Blake is both Black and White...that stupid ass one drop rule was created to strip people of their culture...no matter what culture it was intended to destroy its working in the case of Blake Griffin, who is again both Black-and-white...stop trying to call him any thing other than black-and-white...he's not just Black,he's not just white...he's both...
Scare crow what are you talking bout. You sound really stupid considering most of us are of mixed cultures. There are not many black people or white people for that matter that are 100 percent that race. Some of yall need to do some research instead of going what you hear. Also going off your feelings. Learn to read and also use a decent level of rational thought.
Scare crow what are you talking bout. You sound really stupid considering most of us are of mixed cultures. There are not many black people or white people for that matter that are 100 percent that race. Some of yall need to do some research instead of going what you hear. Also going off your feelings. Learn to read and also use a decent level of rational thought.
I sound stupid because I called you out? U are an idiot for saying Blake IS Black, he's not black idiot...he's clearly not a dam skin color, he's a paled skined male with red hair, freckles, ethnic and caucasian features and his parents are African-American and Caucasian American,sorry I don't know Blake's mothers genetic make up...what If her family is Irish, Italian, Greek, Russian, Swedish, German, English, African, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Lebanese, Afgani or Other, does it matter or is he still just Black...a color...I never git that...how you could allow anyone to call u a color...i hate when people call me Puerto Rican. Because I'm not just some ethnicity, I'm not my ethnicity...I am who I am not ,what you or anyone else calls me...
Scare crow if you are call me out be right about what you said. Where did I ever say that Blake Griffin was black. I want you to show me those statements. Someone needs to learn how to read at something higher than a 6th grade level. Leave the drugs alone. Also you have your own vain beliefs about yourself. I doubt any of us considers ourselves to be just a color as you say it but we are aware of the cultural descriptions of our race and it effects on not just us but everyone we meet or come across. It is not my place to say what Blake is because that has to do with Blake but still that does not mean I think it makes sense for white people to claim Blake Griffin since he is half white and playing great basketball. I like it better when you scare crow was just coming up with stupid trades, you seemed a lot smarter than even if you had no idea what you were talking about but at least I could blame the drugs on some of it now it just may be you are a little bit off. Also it also appears you dont like me because you dont try to blast a lot of other people so whatever issue you have with me let get it out in the open and just squash. I don't like to be a coward about stuff and let things linger.
Scare crow if you are call me out be right about what you said. Where did I ever say that Blake Griffin was black. I want you to show me those statements. Someone needs to learn how to read at something higher than a 6th grade level. Leave the drugs alone. Also you have your own vain beliefs about yourself. I doubt any of us considers ourselves to be just a color as you say it but we are aware of the cultural descriptions of our race and it effects on not just us but everyone we meet or come across. It is not my place to say what Blake is because that has to do with Blake but still that does not mean I think it makes sense for white people to claim Blake Griffin since he is half white and playing great basketball. I like it better when you scare crow was just coming up with stupid trades, you seemed a lot smarter than even if you had no idea what you were talking about but at least I could blame the drugs on some of it now it just may be you are a little bit off. Also it also appears you dont like me because you dont try to blast a lot of other people so whatever issue you have with me let get it out in the open and just squash. I don't like to be a coward about stuff and let things linger.
Times change. Race doesn't determine your athletic ability, your hard work, determination and god given talents determines this. Never has your race determined how "good" you are, NEVER, and it shouldn't either, The only reason it is that way is because the media likes to look at the bad side, and is so negative. But since when should we listen to them. We should pay more attention to what we think and what really matters. Not let some dumb, stupid, NBA analysts determine what we think. I mean, what are we ROBOTS? The only person that has control on the way we think is ourselves, not the media, not outsiders. It has never been that way so stop caring about what the norm is and just embrace life. Take life by the horns. Don't care about a player's race. That's minimal. VERY MINIMAL. To me it has NO RELEVANCE whatsoever. Did we not listen MLK's I have a dream speech? "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." To me that means that one day everyone should be judged by the content of their character or how they play the game not by the color of their skin or their race. That's exactly what we are doing with Blake Griffin. Only now the tables have turned, instead of judging blacks we are judging whites. Pretty sad that 4 decades after this speech was given we still have problems following its message!!!!
Like I said, I don't care what race he is, as long as he plays hard every night, up to his full potential and helps him team win. That's all that matters to me and thats all that will matter to me. Looks are second.
Through growing up with this stigma I have to say Griffin is definitely not white, and I am not biastly saying this. I am not mixed like him but I am spanish and black, and must say Ive always felt more comfortable and more accepted around black people. Being mixed comes with alot of mixed opinions and rascism and I must say if I walked into a black persons home today and told them my background I would be accepted way before walking into a white home and telling them my background.
The black community would have accepted Blake Griffin way before he was a superstar, the white community only looks to embrace him because hes famous.
For example Delonte West is mixed, but since he does things of African American stereotypes "fing lebrons mom, doing gangster stuff, substance abuse" hes automatically black. Claim him while our at it Skip.
"Blake is both Black and White...that stupid ass one drop rule was created to strip people of their culture...no matter what culture it was intended to destroy its working in the case of Blake Griffin, who is again both Black-and-white...stop trying to call him any thing other than black-and-white...he's not just Black,he's not just white...he's both..."
BTW thats the most accurate statement. All Im trying to sa is if someone who is mixed goes to tell hs white girlfriends white dad they are dating, the white dad will be pissed most of the time, yet if someone who is mixed goes to tell his black girlfriends dad the are dating they will acept it most of the time.
Hes mixed, and mixed people are accepted by black people more then white people. Black people arent going to call Blake a honkey knowing he has black blood but white people will call him a N---- knowing he has white blood. Just works that way.
OhCanada I back what you said 100 percent. I just wish other people on here would see this as real instead of living in a dream world. Also Scarecrow, quit trying to get attention man. I know you are not used to getting it outside of the internet. Name calling is played out. I will say this you can call me whatever you but I doubt you would ever treat me like anything you say in person. You are not a rapper or gangsta so leave the mudslinging to politicians.
Are people still going on about this, why???? Why does he have to be labelled as black or white? Does he have to be any side? I'm not claiming him to be neither black or white, because it doesnt matter. I would've thought people would be past this at this day and age. Or are we not?? Why someone have to be labelled by the colour of their skin, or what his parents were, or his ancestry. People are still caught up in this racist history, Does Blake as a player change if he's labelled as either? No. Do people see him as less of a player if he's white, or black? Do people see him as any less of a person if he's black or white? Do people see his potential lowered if he's black or white? The answer to all of this should be a big fat NO. It appalls me that people are acting like this.
He is a great player period...one I will accept wheiter he's black, white or red like dnyce likes to point out...m
Y entire point can be summed up by a quote from a great man...judge us not by the color of our skin but by the content of our character...he's a great player and he deserves to make the decision to be who the is...Blake Griffin...
My problem with Skip claiming Blake as white. Is why doesnt he claim Taylor as white also. Why doesnt he claim Deron Williams, Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby or The Lopez Twins. Why claim the new rising star? If he wasnt a superstar would he claim him? When a mixed player is doing Great all the sudden he wants to claim him as his on. And Blake gets his talent and height from his Dad's side of the family.
My problem is people having a problem with people with problems.
Skip Bayless is a nobody. He's just some nutjob who doesn't deserve a second thought. This is a stupid topic of discussion (that nobody even thought of before seeing this), that should cease before more people get chances to drop ignorant bullsh*t about how the "white community" is so bloody immoral.
where is dynce on this subject? or king david? ;)