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Claiming Blake Griffin as white?

I saw this on 1st and 10 do yall feel its ok for white ppl to claim Blake Griffin as white? Personally I have no problem with it, but its unusual because most ppl that are mixed especially in the public eye, are viewed as black when there is any black blood in them. What do you guys think?


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Hell just let us have him.

Hell just let us have him. Well give you back Tiger Woods.

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How does somethings like this

How does somethings like this become a topic? no offense. There are so many white people out there why do white people want to claim mixed people. Obama is mixed too do you want to claim him lol?

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HELL NO!

no no no no no no no no NO! I've never looked at blake griffin and thought look at that white kid. When has a mixed person half black half white been considered white? i'll tell you when.....NEVER! My daughter's mom is white, i'm black. My daughter's definately black. Skip you get your greesy, ranch dressing, mayonaise, 401K having, 720 credit score, collar shirt wearing hands off of OUR Blake Griffin. The outrage! lol.

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I view him as black, but it

I view him as black, but it doesn't really matter.

But I do think that the NBA would be a lot more popular if there was a American white superstar in there.

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I thought White Men Can't

I thought White Men Can't Jump

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ridiculous topic, shouldn't

ridiculous topic, shouldn't even be a thought for anyone....sad if it is

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topic

I think this is a good topic, it is about race, but its not "racist" in the sense that there is no hate. People should be judged by who they are and not color they are, but that will never happen in the world. Both guys in the video made good points aobut mixed race people and how that could have changed other peoples perceptions of them. Like if Obama was still mixed race and looked a lot whiter(like Jason Kidd), I think he would have gotten less votes because he would not have been perceived to be "black", and i think people wanted to make a statement and have the first black president, even though he should be voted on his ideas and not his skin color.

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Would a black guy really

Would a black guy really dress up like this? I dont think so.

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1 more thing

@nickwayne87

your comment is just rude. how do you think your daughter's mother feels about what you think? That she has no part of your childs heritage just cause she might not be light skinned? How would you feel if your daughter did turn out light skinned and everybody called her white, and that she called herself white?

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who cares?

who cares?

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Of course he's white

how many pale skinned, red haired, freckle faced black dudes do you know?

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including philly rapper freck

including philly rapper freck billionaire .....a couple

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You're missing the point........

dmo all i'm saying is that my daughter will be percieved as a black girl. Of course she has caucasian blood in her and it is part of her heritage. But she will be percieved as black. White people and black people alike have always percieved mixed people as black. Now they want to percieve one of them as white just because it's convienient for them. Just because they don't have anyone to root for NOW they want to say he's white. Just because he has the potential to be one of the greatest basketball players of the next generation, NOW THEY WANT TO SAY HE'S WHITE.....but if he was alive back in the 1800s they would've had him on field with the rest of us......THAT'S MY POINT.

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I don't know why everything

I don't know why everything always has to be broken down into labels... Why does it matter what race Blake Griffin is?

But while we're on it... He's either bi-racial or black (since his father is black). I've never considered him white. He's light complected, but doesn't really look white to me at all. He has his mother's hair color and freckles, but he has majority of his fathers features (like nose, lips, etc).

Not to be racist, negative towards white athletes or anything of that nature, but I've never seen a white man with athleticism like Griffin.

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IndianaBasketball

Exactly.

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NickWayne, youre absolutely

NickWayne, youre absolutely right... the one drop rule is a historical precident, and revoking does feel like a matter of racial convenience. And Austin Rivers is next. But take heart that white America wants to relate to a black guy so much. My question is is this only because he's really light? And jumps really high? Because there have been and are now mixed NBA superstars... Deron Williams, Grant Hill, the other they named. WHy aren't they being claimed?

@CodySLC: I've seen too many black dudes dressed like that.. Wesley Snipes, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy, Chris Tucker, Vingh Rhames... random people in NYC... Dennis Rodman...........

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real topic

people think this is a stupid topic but its not at all. When u really break it down its a serious question and both are entitled to their sides. To say this shouldnt even cross sumbodys mind yea that would be true in a perfect world but we obviously dont live in one.

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That's my son in my profile

That's my son in my profile picture and my wife is bi-racial. He's lighter complected like Griffin, but we've never refered to him as being white. He's light complected and has blonde hair, but all the rest are black features. He has my eyes, lips, nose, mouth, ears... Just about everything else.

I think that's pretty sad on Bayless' part though... There have been other mixed athletes in the NBA... Why didn't he "claim" them? Why doesn't he feel prideful about Austin Daye? What about Deron Williams?

And @Mkadoza

Are you sure Grant Hill is bi-racial?

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Hmmm

One of my best friends is black but he was born in some weird Pacific Island. He's not African, but his skin is black. So he's black. Right?

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I didn't like how Skip said

I didn't like how Skip said that because his mother is white with red hair that should make him white. Alot of bicracial ppl I know have black fathers with white mothers I don't know anyone personally with white fathers and black mothers. Its unfortunate, but it seems to be true the one drop rule still applies.

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I don't care what race he is

I don't care what race he is just as long as he plays well and does his best every night. Looks are second to me.

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There are a lot of children

There are a lot of children of white men and black women. I have nieces that are mixed but I am pretty sure no one will consider them white unless they play ball and start dunking on people which could happen because they could both be over 6 feet with pretty good athletic genetics. I am not white so i may not understand the need to relate to a sport so bad that you try to make a person white just to feel proud. Black people joked that Clinton who is white was black because of stuff he did while president and before but seriously we never thought he was black. At least I didn't. David Lee is pretty good and athletic and he is homegrown white dude so why not just root for him. He was an All Star last year. I am pretty sure Blake does not consider himself white but then again he may not consider himself black either but mixed.

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Also Skip Bayless continues

Also Skip Bayless continues to do things that make me think he is suspect.

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I don't know if you can

I don't know if you can consider Griffin "black." Put him next to a black African like Mutombo or Deng, and he certainly don't look black to me. He don't exactly look like someone native of Europe either. Blacks try to claim Tiger Woods as being "black," but he is mostly of Asian blood. That would be like Irish claiming Muhammad Ali because he has some Irish ancestry. If black people can claim Tiger Woods is "black," and he has less "black" blood then Griffin has "white" blood what's the big deal? It looks hypocritical to me.

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@sheltwon, i've never met

@sheltwon, i've never met anyone who has even discussed this so i dont think white people are trying to use blake to be proud of a white athlete. And how does this situation relate to bill clinton? CLinton was white, blake is mixed. He is half and half, not one race.

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it doesn't matter to me. He's

it doesn't matter to me. He's mixed but i was thinking about what my boy said to me " if Blake walked into a Klan meeting what would they consider him?..what would they say?" When you are mixed society considers you mixed or black

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Let me decide this for you guys:

He's black.

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it doesnt matter at all... he

it doesnt matter at all... he looks more black than white anyway....

obama is bi-racial,but we say hes the first black prezident for two things: 1.) hes half black and two hes really dark to be only half black, not to be rude, but thats the truth

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lilperez that was the best

lilperez that was the best example i could use of black people claiming someone that was white to be black because this whole claiming a mixed person as white makes no sense to me at all. If you were offended than I am sorry. This is really totally wow to me because there are a lot of white people period and there has been mixed player before and all of a sudden white people want to claim Blake Griffin. This almost seems like a bad joke but this is somehow reality

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you didnt offend me, your

you didnt offend me, your comparison just made no sense. If clinton was half and half, then it would make sense. ANd like i said, ive never met anyone who considers blake to be white. This thread tis the first time ive seen it discussed but you seem to be upset that white people are trying to claim him.

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IF Blake Griffin wasn't a

IF Blake Griffin wasn't a human highlight reel, this wouldn't even be a topic of discussion.

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Sonny Red, the reason its not

Sonny Red, the reason its not hypocritical is because has been decided in the context of history. As long as youre part black, even a little, your black. Until race is wiped out in this country it seems more hypocritical to change the rules of designation, not even for rectifying the historical injusticies of rape babies born into slavery, "little white mistakes", but to include oneself in something thats been decided. Its seems very selfish and selfserving to redesignate centuries of racial stigmas for the sole purpose of "having a 'white guy' who can jump". Or more literally, a donimant force in one of the few black dominated sectors of society... and its still only dominate don the court... so... yeah... you can have him.

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THIS CALLS FOR A RACIAL

THIS CALLS FOR A RACIAL DRAFT!!

Please click on this link if you do not get the joke lol

http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/349514?t=playlists_upnext

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Dude

Dude is white lol. His skin color is as white as Kevin Loves lol. So if Griffin is black then so is Love lol. Griffin's face is built like a black person (not trying to sound racist) But his skin is white.

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so becasue racist white

so becasue racist white ignorant hicks have decided it then we will just roll with it? Way to grow.

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I am

All i am saying if we are going by what he looks like he is white. He has red hair and his skin is very light. Hell i have darker skin then him and i am very white haha.

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@T-Wolvesfan13 Griffin isn't

@T-Wolvesfan13

Griffin isn't dark, but it's clear to see he's darker than Love lol. Kevin Love is a pure white boy. He probably can't even get a tan without burning lol.

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i was reffering to the people

i was reffering to the people claiming that since KKK members and salve owners would consider him black then we just have to accept that. He is half and half. He is both. People come off as insecure if they feel the need to "claim" him.

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Lol

^^^^ Lol. When i watched the Clips play the Wolves they were standing next to each other and there skin color is almost the same. Not trying to be a racist jerk. I just think he has white skin lol

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Lol

^^^^ Lol. When i watched the Clips play the Wolves they were standing next to each other and there skin color is almost the same. Not trying to be a racist jerk. I just think he has white skin lol

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The real question is

Is Taylor Griffin white?

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Naw... The black people can

Naw... The black people can keep Taylor lol.

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I don't even see why this is

I don't even see why this is a topic. Does it really matter that much the colour of someone's skin. Does he have to be black? Does he have to be white? Why does someone have to be either black or white, why does it matter? He is a basketball player, the last thing on people's mind should be what race he is considered.

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Why not just refer to mixed

Why not just refer to mixed people as mixed people?

I really don't see why this was even a topic on 1st and 10.

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Ha ha that'd be a good

Ha ha that'd be a good question for Skip Bayless though... "Are you claiming Taylor too?"

I don't think it matters though. I don't know why labels are so important to everyone. We're all Americans. No need to break it down into labels.

I have an uncle who fought in Iraq. Do you think labels are important out there on that battle field? Nope.

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So ignorant good god...

He's both, he's black and white. I knew this when he was in college. Regardless of how you look at it, Blake griffin is mixed. Its funny, because Blake griffin said himself in humerous video that he was half black. I mean no disrespect honestly, but he's half black so accept it. Its a natural known fact blacks tend to be much more athletic then whites. And the reaction time is up there because of more twitch muscle fiber. I know tons of blacks that are white skinned like that. Seriously, look it up. But the bottom line is, Blake isn't black, or white, he's both. I think the real issue here isn't race. The real issue is that people caucasion males want to run from the classic "White men can only shoot and dunk when not being guarded" thing. All in all he's both, so there's nothing to claim. Horrible topic no matter how you look at it.

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Skip Bayless doesnt think

Skip Bayless doesnt think before he speaks..He's going to lead everyone that watches him into the water....

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I am not upset, I told this

I am not upset, I told this seems like a joke to me. You are the one that called me out and said something I said did not make sense. It makes as much sense as white people claiming Blake Griffin is white. Where was this claiming him early or when he was hurt.

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like i said it doesnt matter

like i said it doesnt matter at all....

hes just happens to have white and black blood and be a stud player

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sheltwon, claiming bill

sheltwon, claiming bill clinton as being black does not make as much sense as claiming blake griffin is white.

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