Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook
Who do you guys think is the better player? My man got destroyed on the chris paul post for saying he doesnt think he is in the top 3 in the league...Who do you guys got and why?
I like Westbrook, but his high turnover rate, at times very ball-dominant nature, at times questionable defense and mediocre outside shooting puts him a level beneath the elite of the elite PGs right now.
In terms of pure point guards, its most definitely Chris Paul. He doesn't look to score first. He can get whatever he wants most times but he looks to control the flow of the offense. The only reason these two are comparable is because the point guards primary style is shifting in the NBA to be a more prolific scoring and supreme athlete.. Westbrook can put up big numbers in a hurry but he won't be the same type of point guard that CP3 is. Nor will many other players in the future.
I think that Paul is superior. Westbrook may put up bigger numbers, but Paul is a more complete player who can better fit with other offensive talent. Westbrook is a little too shoot-first to be ahead of Paul currently, as Westbrook is not yet a great shooter, but Paul has been shooting phenomenally this season.
Chris Paul makes his teammates better. I mean, last season was the perfect example. Darren Collison put up similar stats to Chris Paul's while Paul was injured, but the Hornets continued losing. CP3 makes his teammates better, offensively and defensively.
I'm not too sure if Russell Westbrook is there.. yet.
This isn't really an argument... It's Chris Paul.
The knee injury took away some of his explosiveness and his numbers are down (They play at a slower pace... What did you expect? Monty Williams is a minature Nate McMillian), but Paul is still a better point guard and player than Russell Westbrook.
This is tough for me, but I lean CP3. I'll go Paul because I feel Westbrook still has some combo guard tendencies.
Paul is not the same guy, I thought that 5 weeks into the season, but I think this is a great change. He went from scoring Paul, to a more Stockton like guy who I think can lead a team (not New Orleans this year) to a title.
I think Westbrook is probably the best PG matching up with other PGs thanks to his length, strength and defense.
But as an overall player I'd go for Paul. Maybe in 2-3 years.
My top 5 is:
1-2. Paul - He leads a bunch of losers, who failed miserably last season, to the playoffs.
1-2. Williams - He lead an injured team that was worse than the Bulls this season to the Semi's.
3. Rose - People overrate the shit out of him. I wouldn't be surprised if he is without a doubt the best in a few seasons, but so far Paul and Williams are simply more proven.
4. Westbrook - Above
5. Rondo - I think all those guys above would have similiar results playing for four years with a bunch of HoF, maybe not Westbrook. And they would probably do even more damage, because all those guys have better range. But still you gotta give him credit, not only for 12 asp, but also for destroying the Cavs last season in the playoffs.
My top 5
I'll take CP3 everyday of the week.
Paul is better because he has helped his team overachieve for the last three years... The Hornets never look that great on paper, but Paul brings so much to the table that allows them to be a winning team and continue to be competitive, because he makes everyone around him so much better. If there was a stat for leadership and intangibles, Paul would lead the league in it every single season.
1. D- Rose
2. Deron William
3. Chris Paul
4. Rajon Rondo
5. Stephen Curry
Curry over Westbrook, Parker and Nash???
Word, Curry is my 6th, but he's not better then Westbrook
Curry isn't better than Nash... I don't think he's better than Parker either.
I do. I rather have Curry then both Nash and Parker.
I'm telling you guys..he's SUPER underrated.
Nash is pretty amazing though...
I don't even think Curry is a top ten point guard...
I don't even think Curry is a top ten point guard...
Please name your ten.
Curry is an underrated player, but Nash controls a game more efficiently and effectively than almost any player in the league. I don't think people realize just how valuable Steve Nash is, but he's right there in the conversation with Williams, Paul and the elite of elites at the PG position.
Completely agree w/ flyboy. No one talks about Nash, he is incredible.
Nash is great, I just don't think he's a top 5 point guard anymore
What exactly does Curry do better than Nash? They both suck at defense and Steve Nash, despite being 35ish(too lazy to look it up) is probably better at everything else.
I always attacked Curry for his defense, but he has proven in the Team USA that his defense is actually very solid when playing with a good team. I still think Nash is a better player though, without question. Nash is close to leading a team of 36 year olds and role players to the playoffs.
My top 10
9. Wall (He'll be top 5 soon)
19PPG 6APG, 48% FG, 40% 3FG, 90% FT. He's just 2% away from his FG to join Nash as the only 50%FG 40%3FG 90%FT, that's just pure efficiency, and for a team like the Warriors who run and gun, takes care of the ball very well at just 3 TO per game.
My At the moment top PG list... It's hard to compare PGs because each of them have contrasting styles, and some of the lower guys I ranked might be better than some of the higher guys in certain offenses or around certain players. I'll do my best though, and I would take CP3 over Westbrook btw. I would probably take CP3 over Rose, or any PG for that matter, to lead a team, but Rose is playing unbelievable right now, so it's not a contest at the moment between Rose and CP3.
He doesn't take good care of the ball. He shares a lot of possesions with Ellis and Lee. His TO's are actually pretty high one of his weaknesses. You are right about one thing though, if he joins the 50-40-90 club so early in his career than he might be on pace to be an All-Star and future HoFer.
"I always attacked Curry for his defense, but he has proven in the Team USA that his defense is actually very solid when playing with a good team."
We must've been watching different games this past summer because Curry's defense wasn't solid. That's why he didn't play much.
Curry was advertised as a guard that'd be able to play both guard spots, but his shooting wasn't all that great and his decision making at the point was awful.