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Chris Bosh & the raps

Chris Bosh might be the biggest Name in trade rumors.....i think bosh will not be traded but if traded the raps will have 2 start getting athletic Players.......Demar Derozan will be a start but i still think they should pursue gordon....this offseason and really add another draft pick most likely from minnesiota.....this is my thoughts and your thoughts and opinions will be great thanks


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Chris Bosh to the Bulls

Rumors out of Chicago have serviced of a possible 3-Way trade this summer, if Bosh doesn't sign an extention.

To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Jason Kapono and Julian Wright
To Raptors: David West, Luol Deng and a 1st Round Pick (Hornets)
To Hornets: Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas (who is from Louisiana)

It rated out pretty even on the Trade Machine.

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Why would NOH trade West for

Why would NOH trade West for Thomas?

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Because

Thomas is younger, cheaper(NOR is doing terrible moneywise), more athletic and better fits a run n gun style that a Paul-Gordon-Chandler team would use
Pitbulls has a good trade works out good for all teams

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Best trade I've seen.

Best trade I've seen.

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Why does the Raptors-Bulls-Hornets trade work?

From the Raptors perspective, they get an All-Star at Power Forward and a nice young Small Forward, who are both under long-term contracts and should replace Bosh and Marion nicely. From the Bulls perspective, they finally get that ELITE POWER FOWARD they have been looking for to play along-side Rose, not too mention a good outside shooter in Kapono. From the Hornets perspective, they get Gordon, which should form one of the best backcourt's in the NBA. They also get a young Poward Forward who would excel under Paul's leadership.

It's a solid trade across the board when you really examine it. I wouldn't mind seeing it come to reality.

Here it is, sort of:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=phskfv
* Switch out Hinrich with Gordon and add a 1st Round pick to the Hornets and that's fairly equal.

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hornets don't benefit from

hornets don't benefit from this trade.

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Great trade, Thomas would

Great trade, Thomas would benefit so much from playing with Paul, he would become a much better player. Chicago gets their scoring down lw and versatile player in Wright and another shooter. Hornets also get Gordon, who will spread the floor for Paul. Raptors gets two good players in their prime and a first round pick.

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Thanks.

It's seems good to me.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=phskfv
*Trade out Hinrich for Gordon and give Toronto a 1st Round Pick (Hornets)

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PITTbulls

awesome trade man i would definitely do that trade in a heart beat.... even though i dont wanna see CB4 leave and i would only do that trade if he wanted to leave

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Thanks again.

It seems to be gaining support. Good. Now, if the Bulls-Hornets-Raptors could only make it happen.

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that trade

It looks pretty solid all around, but I think the Hornets would be making a mistake. Gordon would obviously have to be included as a sign and trade, but seeing as how he turned down 10 mill per last year, I don't think the Hornets would want to pay him more then that.

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Tor

The only way I see Tor keeping an all star PF is to wait for the jazz to sign boozer and sraight up trade bosh for the looz. then wait 3-4 years until the looz leaves. Bosh will play his final year in UTAH then leave for CHIC or NY.

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NY, NJ or Chicago

Take your pick. I just can't see him staying with the Raptors long-term. Like I said, If I were them I would be calling up the Hornets and trying to pull off that *3-Team trade I mentioned earlier.

* see above

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Oh No...Toronto

I just came across this article.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59592/20090604/bosh_hints_he_will...

It might be time for Toronto to think about my 3-Team Trade:

To Raptors: David West, Luol Deng and a 1st Round Pick (Hornets)
To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Jason Kapono and Julian Wright
To Hornets: Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas

Feeeback?

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hornets would have to get

hornets would have to get torontos or chicagos first round pick in return before i would do it. but if they get that i could see it working out.

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Trade Rating

I believe it Rates out a +4 for Chicago, Even for Toronto and a + 2 for the Hornets.

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What should the Raptors do?

I say trade Chris Bosh, hopefully to the Bulls, where is agent is, his marketing agency is, his trainer is, and where he can win and makes lots of money on and off the court.

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im a raptors fan, and i want

im a raptors fan, and i want him to be traded .

how about

To Min :
Chris Bosh
Marcus Banks
9th overall pick

To Tor
Mike Miller
Brian Cardinal
6th overall pick
28th overall pick
(maybe 18th as well)

The trade works, i checked the trade machine

Draft James Harden, Stephen Curry or Jordan Hill with the 6th pick.
With 28th pick :Jermaine Taylor, Marcus Thornton or Taj Gibson (depending on their first pick)
If they get the 18th pick Gani Lawal/Wayne Ellington/Chase Budinger (again, depends on the first pick)

I think the trade works out for both teams
Minnesota gets a talented big to play alongside Al Jefferson and moev love to the bench which will make him very effective off the bench.
I expect Minnesota with the 9th pick then to draft Jennings, Flynn, Evans to play the point for them, and banks can be solid off the bench.

In the raptors perspective,
you get a higher draft pick, draft someone like harden or curry to play the 2, or hill to fill in bosh's spot
with the later picks , you get either a solid 2 or 4, whichever one you didnt draft earlier.

Mike Miller is a good shooter that can be used off the bench, and cardinal is there to complete the trade

i also really like that 3 way deal by PITTbulls

what do you guys think ?

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Chris Bosh has to like where he would be traded

I'm not sure Chris Bosh would want to play in Minnesota. Any team that trades for him better be sure he wants to be there or else they will be wasting their time, effort and assets after he leaves in 2010.

My hunch still says he goes to the Bulls this summer in a sign-and-trade.

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People really like this trade...Thanks!!!

I fed it to the TM and here's the analysis. Of course, I had to use Hinrich instead of Gordon because of Gordon's free agency status. I figure, if you switch out Hinrich for Gordon and give a 1st Round to the Raptors this trade would grade out +4, even, +2, at least.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=phskfv

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That trade is one-sided

The Warriors only benefit from that trade, so I say BAD DEAL!!!

This one on the otherhand seems to work for all teams involved.

3-Team Trade

(even) To Raptors: David West, Luol Deng and a 1st Round Pick (Hornets)
(+4) To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Jason Kapono and Julian Wright
(+2) To Hornets: Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas (who is from Louisiana)

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Proposals for the Raptors

Here are three proposals which I think could work out for the Raps:

1.

- sign Marcin Gortat to a 3 year, $10 million contract
- sign Jamal Magloire to a contract which gives him around $750,000 a season
- sign Trevor Ariza to a 6 year, $50 million contract
- sign Grant Hill to a 2 year, $4.5 million contract
- sign Carlos Delfino to a contract which gives him $3 million a season
- sign Pops Mensah-Bonsu to a contract which gives him just over $1 million a season
- Waive Marcus Banks and Nathan Jawai
- Do a trade where:
New York gets: Jason Kapono, Roko Ukic
Toronto gets: Chris Duhon and 2010 second round draft pick
- Do a trade where:
Charlotte gets: Anthony Parker
Toronto gets: Raja Bell
- Do a trade where:
Minnesota gets: Kris Humphries
Toronto gets: 28th pick of the 2009 draft (where they pick DaJuan Summers)
- at the 9th pick in this year’s draft, they should pick Earl Clark (since I doubt Derozen will be there at 9……also no point of draftin Tyreke in this situation, considering Raja Bell and Carlos Delfino already play the SG……Tyreke is a starter and needs mins…..in the 2 years that Grant Hill is signed with the Raps, he can make Earl Clark a more polished player)

Proposal #1:

*Andrea Bargnani / Marcin Gortat / Jamaal Magloire / (S) Patrick O'Bryant
*Chris Bosh / Pops Mensah-Bonsu / (S) Josh Heytvelt
*Trevor Ariza / Grant Hill / Earl Clark
*Raja Bell / Carlos Delfino
*Jose Calderon / Chris Duhon / (S) Quincy Douby

* = starter, (S) = not in 12 man squad

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2.

- sign Marcin Gortat to a 3 year, $10 million contract
- sign Jamal Magloire to a contract which gives him around $750,000 a season
- sign Grant Hill to a 2 year, $4.5 million contract
- sign Carlos Delfino to a contract which gives him $3 million a season
- sign Pops Mensah-Bonsu to a contract which gives him just over $1 million a season
- Waive Marcus Banks and Nathan Jawai
- Do a trade where:
New York gets: Jason Kapono, Roko Ukic
Toronto gets: Chris Duhon and 2010 second round draft pick
- Do a trade where:
Charlotte gets: Anthony Parker
Toronto gets: Raja Bell
- Do a trade where:
Washington gets: Shawn Marion, #9 Pick in the 2009 draft
Toronto gets: Caron Butler, #32 in the 2009 draft (where they pick Josh Heytvelt)
- Do a trade where:
Minnesota gets: Kris Humphries
Toronto gets: 28th pick of the 2009 draft (where they pick DaJuan Summers)

Proposal #2:

*Andrea Bargnani / Marcin Gortat / Jamaal Magloire / (S) Patrick O'Bryant
*Chris Bosh / Pops Mensah-Bonsu / (S) Josh Heytvelt
*Caron Butler / Grant Hill / DaJuan Summers
*Raja Bell / Carlos Delfino
*Jose Calderon / Chris Duhon / (S) Quincy Douby

* = starter, (S) = not in 12 man squad

side notes:

- let's imagine Lamar Odom gets signed by the Lakers for much less than anyone expected and hence, they are able to resign Trevor Ariza…. then the first proposal wouldn't work….also, most likely Ariza can't be signed by another team (Lakers have been known to go over-cap)

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3.

- sign Marcin Gortat to a 3 year, $10 million contract
- sign Jamal Magloire to a contract which gives him around $750,000 a season
- sign Shawn Marion to a 4 year, $32 million contract
- sign Carlos Delfino to a contract which gives him $3 million a season
- sign Pops Mensah-Bonsu to a contract which gives him just over $1 million a season
- Waive Marcus Banks and Nathan Jawai
- Do a trade where:
New York gets: Anthony Parker, Roko Ukic
Toronto gets: Chris Duhon and 2010 second round draft pick
- Do a trade where:
Toronto gets: David West, Luol Deng and the 21st Pick (from Hornets, where they pick Terrence Williams)
Chicago gets: Chris Bosh, Jason Kapono and Julian Wright
New Orleans gets: Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas
- Do a trade where:
Minnesota gets: Kris Humphries
Toronto gets: 28th pick of the 2009 draft (where they pick Josh Heytvelt)
- at the 9th pick in this year’s draft, they should pick Tyreke Evans (should be the best possible player available at #9……is the best SG after Harden….i don’t consider Derozen an SG and Stephon Curry wants to play point…..in this situation, the Raps need a starter at the SG and Tyreke Evans would fit that role….very similar to Jamal Crawford’s style of play…..a better version of Randy Foye……Evans is a great scorer…..can rack up a ton of points (like he did in the NCAA)…..he needs to work on his jump shot and 3pt % figures this summa….and I think he’ll improve….i find it interesting that Foye was dealing with the same issues when he was getting drafted…..but now his 3pt figures are 37%)

Proposal #3:

*Andrea Bargnani / Marcin Gortat / Jamaal Magloire / (S) Patrick O'Bryant
*David West / Pops Mensah-Bonsu / (S) Josh Heytvelt
*Shawn Marion / Luol Deng / Terrence Williams
*Tyreke Evans / Carlos Delfino
*Jose Calderon / Chris Duhon / (S) Quincy Douby

* = starter, (S) = not in 12 man squad

Side Notes:

- Chris Bosh jus said that he wont sign an extension with the Raptors…..it really doesn’t mean that Bosh will leave the Raps in 2010….it jus means he is going to test out the free agency market and look at the best possible offer…..and financially, the Raps can give the best offer…..however very recently, according to inside sources, it seems the Raptors management are getting worried….they believe there is a good chance Bosh will leave…..therefore, the Raps are trying to work out a deal with Utah where they can get Boozer in exchange for Bosh…..however, Boozer has recently said that he’ll opt out of his contract with Utah and that he wants to play for Detroit or New Jersey (and it is really looking like Detroit is going to get him)…..another offer the Raptors have going for them is with Chicago, where they’ll offer Luol Deng to get Bosh……however, the Raps will ask for more than Deng and so thats why I think this three-way deal will work……New Orleans are really deep into their salary cap…..this trade relieves some cap space…with this trade, they have an amazing backcourt and a young, upcoming PF in Thomas….Chicago gets Bosh and therefore an all-star to play alongside Rose……Toronto gets a solid wing-player in Luol Deng (could even play a 6th man role)….and David West can replace Bosh…..also both players are signed to long-term contracts….

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- out of these 3 proposals, I think the third one is the best and the most realistic….the first one is the least likely to happen since I doubt the Raps can grab Ariza away from the Lakers……but any of these three proposals are better than what the Raps have going right now…..

- i see Cleveland, Orlando, Boston, Toronto, Atlanta, Washington, Detroit, and Chicago in the playoffs nex season....with any of these proposals, they are in the elite four or perhaps 2 in the East.....depending on how well the Raps play to their potential... but honestly, i see these 3 proposals as the best options for Toronto.....

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Emails have been sent

I sent out my trade idea to the Chicago and Toronto newspapers as well as Sam Smith. Who knows, maybe the G.M.'s will get wind of it and make something happen. From the outside looking in, It really does seem to make sense for each team. Thanks again for the support.

3 Team Trade:

To Bulls: Chris Bosh, Jason Kapono and Julian Wright
To Raptors: David West, Luol Deng and a 1st Round Pick (Hornets or Bulls?)
To Hornets: Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas (a Louisiana Boy)

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