Centers in the Lottery
What centers do you think will land in the lottery? For the sake of the post i'm going to state that Nerlens Noel and Cody Zeller are Power Forwards.
Personally, i believe that 4, maybe 5 centers will find themselves in the lottery.
In no particular order, the centers that will be picked in the lottery are:
Rudy Gobert (could play the 4)
I do apologize if I missed someone that you believe should be in the lottery but these are the top 4 genuine Center's in the class.
You put the T-Rex in the lottery? lol
I think Len is the only sure C in the lottery - since you're omitting Zeller and Noel. Adams and Gobert have good chances at hitting the lottery. I'm not sold on Olynyk as a lottery selection...he might squeak in though.
You really think Olynyk is a Center? I've got him as a PF didnt really think there was a question about it.
If these big men pan out, then this draft will be very solid. Good big men are at a premium, so this draft could go along way into bring adequate centers into the league.
There is actually some depth at center, just no true SUPER STAR center. Duncan is older and more of a power forward now, and Marc Gasol might be there soon, but I don't see him yet. But, pretty soon it will seem like every team has a serviceable guy in the pivot.
Hopefully the big guys in this draft develop.
I also think that teams (especially contenders) will be looking at getting backup centers. Adding an extra big man instead of going after another 2 guard or small forward. I can see the Grizzlies going after a backup center before reaching on yet another wing player. The Spurs at 58 might also use the same strategy.
I think the Thunder should look at taking a flyer on Greg Oden. Then they can add a playmaker like MCW with the Raptors' pick. They need some help inside, but I don't think Alex Len will be there. And I am not super sold on Kelly Olynyk. However, I can see Cody Zeller dropping. If he does, then I think the Thunder have to take him. Either him or Rudy Gobert if they are still on the board (and if getting Greg Oden isn't a realistic possibility).
"I do apologize if I missed someone that you believe should be in the lottery but these are the top 4 genuine Center's in the class."
Those aren't genuine centers. A 7-footer who weighs 234 lbs. is not a genuine center nor is Gobert if you add an inch and one half in height and 3.6 lbs of weight.
Adams has a good enough size to be a center, but is a huge project. Iverson has the size and some ability, but a weak class at his position does not make him better. It also won't make guys like Tony Woods, Aziz N'Diaye, Jason Washburn, Julian Gamble, Reggie Johnson, or Andrew Smith better. It would not surprise me if people want to give longer looks at Walter Tavares, Dejan Musli, Jaiteh, Sertac Sanli, and the like. At least with them, they will not be on the roster next year.
I haven't seen much of Alex Len but I really think he will turn out to be a very good pro.
I'm really jumping on the Steven Adams bandeagon right now. I said before that he will turn many heads inthe combine and in the upcoming workouts. He is extremely physically gifted. His measurements at 254 and beeing a true 7 footer will help him a lot.
Ht w/o Shoes Ht w/ Shoes Weight Wingspan Reach Body Fat Hand Length Hand Width
6'10.75'' 7' 0'' 254.5 7' 4.5'' 9' 1.5'' 6.7 9.5 11
Maybe Len or Noel (who is a few years away from beeing able to handle big minutes with his 200 pound frame) have higher ceilings but Adams is already in the shape to make an instant impact. I don't see why so many posters think he is a huge project. He has his flaws, ballhandling, footwork and a reliable jump shot is not there yet but which freshman center in the last 10 years had this. He is an excellent rebounder and shot blocker, plays with a high motor and a lot of energy. He is very coachable and has no bad habits or a negative track record and is a high character guy. I just saw a few interviews of him from the combine and I'm very impressed! He was one of the few guys who just was honestly answering questions and showed some sense of humor and wasn't just answering all this standard press conference, you know, have to work on my game, need to be agressive kind of stuff others spread all day long, like Bazz for example who tried to act like the veteran pro all the time.
To me Adams has extremely low bust potential. At worst he is a wysisyg player who will always be raw but plays hard, defend, rebounds well and can play above the rim. He can and will put on more weight and strength and will be a beast if you think he sin't already. At best he could become a 7 footer with the same qualities and with an with an midrange shot at some point similar to Chris Kaman, or even Amare or Aldridge. Weak draft or not, if I'm a GM and could my hands on a prospect like him somewhere in the middle of the first round or even later, this is a no brainer to me.
The Sixers, Portland, OKC and even the Hawks and the Jazz could pick him up. Maybe the Jazz decide to let both Jefferson and Milsapp walk, the don't have a deep frontcourt anymore. Maybe the decide to sign a point guard with their cap space which is the most any team has this year I belive.
Nbadraft.net has Adams at the 28th spot right now. I'm absolutely sure he will go in the lottery and many teams will regret not taking him!
On the other hand there is guy like Gobert who some people see as a 4 which I cannot believe right now. He has rediculous lenth and wingspan but still a very thin frame. It's not always good to have so long arms without the strength behind it. Many players have a lot of foul trouble cause they lack the coordination, quickness and experience coming to the league. Gobert might be worth the gamble but is a true project to me cause he can't contribute right from the start and needs to grow into his body first which takes some time in most cases.
I've never been high on Zeller and I'm still not after it's obvious now that he is a T-Rex and not even close to be physically a top tier player.
I hope the Thunder go after Adams! He is the only player in this class at the 5 I see having the strength, basketball iq and motivation developing a back to the basket game that works in the NBA.
Zeller is a T-Rex, but his max reach is 11'11.5'', that's unreal. He absoluetly is a top teir athlete, which will definately make up for his shorter wingspan. He measured the highest standing vertical of anyone in the whole combine, which is very relevant while attempting to alter shots. I don't know how you can call Zeller inferior from a physical standpoint considering the show he put on today.
Yeah you're right about his combine. Unreal numbers for a guy with his size having so much bounce!
I'm not bashing Zeller. I'm just not high on him, haven't seen too much of him and to me Oladipo was by far the better player for Indiana. When I look at how Zeller moves and how Tyler moves I just don't think they are well build for the Center position. I mean Zeller killed the combine today and there is a reason why Chad Ford was high on him before and now after the combine. He is a very special player and should go top 10 maybe top 5. on the right team he will be nice starting center and can contribute right from the start.
Somehow I just din't like it very much what he has to offer. Plumlee for example was considered a freak until not and it's not exactly outstanding what he is now compared to Zeller.
Zeller will be very good in the right situation but if I can get Adams 10 to 20 spots later I know who I would take...
Btw, are the agility times known already for the big men?
Yeah, they released the times as they happened on TV, but I didn't get them all down. Zeller and Plumlee were 1/2 in pretty much everything. I'm not high on Zeller as anything higher than a 6-10 pick, below Oladipo. I'm kind or surprised he wasn't a better rebounder in college after seeing him showcase his natural ability today.
I just wanted to see why you viewed him as anything below top teir from a physical standpoint. His wingspan isn't great, but he's a specimen for a 7 footer. His 3/4 court sprint was below 3.2 if I am remembering correctly ( I think 3.15).
In regards to Adams, I think he's top 12 now. I don't know why Aran is so low on him and even before he tested I had him in the lottery. With the succeess of Omer Asik and Andre Drummond as more or less physical specimens I think Adams can follow that same path, effecting the defensive end at first but building on that as he gains experience, but he's got a better jumper than both.
"He is extremely physically gifted. His measurements at 254 and beeing a true 7 footer will help him a lot."
"Maybe Len or Noel (who is a few years away from beeing able to handle big minutes with his 200 pound frame) have higher ceilings but Adams is already in the shape to make an instant impact. I don't see why so many posters think he is a huge project."
Fab Melo was 7' 0" 255 lbs last year. He was an athlete with a body, and a lot of Syracuse fans and posters were saying that they felt he could make an instant impact and "protect the rim" (blahhh). He didn't. His play on the court, much like Adams screamed project. They lack the ability to do too many things to get on the floor and be productive players right now. Adams was a mediocre performer in the Big East. He had no touch, bad hands, and often looked lost.
A tape measure and a stopwatch doesn't negate a year of basketball.