[benny15Participant]

i currently have the celtics choosing between olynyck and plumee with their 16th pick. kelly had the much better season individually, leading everyone in PER and lead a team to a number 1 seed for the tourney. Mason on the other hand had a solid senior season himself and had much better numbers at the combine.

plumlee had 17 and 10 playing a shade under 35 MPG. olynyck got 18 and 7 playing nearly 9 minutes less. which is the better fit for the celtics and should be higher on their draft boards?

[TheBigEasyParticipant]

Personally I would say Plumlee. He´s a bit of a meat and potatoes pick, but I think that´s okay with Melo still in the fold and also Sullinger on his way back. I somehow think that Olynyk will not have what it take to be a hit in the NBA. I hope he will pan out, since I loved his play in college.

[TheBigEasyParticipant]

Personally I would say Plumlee. He´s a bit of a meat and potatoes pick, but I think that´s okay with Melo still in the fold and also Sullinger on his way back. I somehow think that Olynyk will not have what it take to be a hit in the NBA. I hope he will pan out, since I loved his play in college.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

I’d take Dieng over either, but I think Olynyk might fit better just because the Celtics could use all the spacing they can get. Plus, Olynyk is just the smarter player on both ends of the court.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

I’d take Dieng over either, but I think Olynyk might fit better just because the Celtics could use all the spacing they can get. Plus, Olynyk is just the smarter player on both ends of the court.

[Prime TimeParticipant]

Id rather have a solid defensive center in Dieng.

[Prime TimeParticipant]

Id rather have a solid defensive center in Dieng.

[SiggyParticipant]

If you’re making this pick with the thought of Sullinger being a mainstay in their frontcourt, then I wouldn’t even look at Olynyk. That would probably be the worst defensive frontcourt in the league.

If it’s just b/t those two, I’d say Plumlee. If Dieng is in the mix I’d take him.

[SiggyParticipant]

If you’re making this pick with the thought of Sullinger being a mainstay in their frontcourt, then I wouldn’t even look at Olynyk. That would probably be the worst defensive frontcourt in the league.

If it’s just b/t those two, I’d say Plumlee. If Dieng is in the mix I’d take him.

[benny15Participant]

i get where you guys are comming from regarding dieng’s ability. putting him in the equation, you can say that he’s a better pick and roll player than Olynyk and a better pick and pop player than Plumlee while being hands down the better shot blocker between both. however, i question if he’s as strong as either in the post to bang with the other bigs in the NBA which is a role i want the celtics big to be able to play. it was a shame that he couldnt participate in the strength drills during the combine to answer any questions regarding that department.

you know what i mean? someone who can come in and be banger on both ends of the floor and get the opposing big out of his rhythm due to being more physical. the current “bangers” of the celtics are 6’8″ and i would prefer if they had someone that was taller who can be as physical as the Noahs and Hibberts of the east. and Fab Melo is still very much a project as his D-League numbers reflect.

[SiggyParticipant]

If a banger is what you’re looking for then you can rule out Olynyk again. He’s not a physical banger and I think he’ll get tossed around by the stronger C’s of the league. I actually think his best bet is to try to make it as a PF so he can get more favorable matchups.

Don’t forget about cross matches. Again, if Sullinger is in the frontcourt, he can defend the stronger/less mobile front court player of the 2 . That’s usually what happens nowadays. I know that’s what my Bulls do. They have Boozer guarding the stronger player with Noah guarding the more mobile player. The Heat do the same as well with Udonis and Bosh.

[benny15Participant]

thanks for the feedback. i like Olynyk’s motor and willingness to battle for offensive boards. it actually reminded me of Brad Miller’s play when he was playing for the Pacers. and the thing with sullinger is that even though he can bang against physical bigs, they can easily shoot over him with a half hook since he doesnt have the length to compensate.

i completely get your point on why kelly wouldnt be a fit for the role i want for the celtics and have moved him from a possible 16th pick to the celtics down ten spots to the timberwolves where minny can get him at a more ideal pick and less of a gamble.

[benny15Participant]

thanks for the feedback. i like Olynyk’s motor and willingness to battle for offensive boards. it actually reminded me of Brad Miller’s play when he was playing for the Pacers. and the thing with sullinger is that even though he can bang against physical bigs, they can easily shoot over him with a half hook since he doesnt have the length to compensate.

i completely get your point on why kelly wouldnt be a fit for the role i want for the celtics and have moved him from a possible 16th pick to the celtics down ten spots to the timberwolves where minny can get him at a more ideal pick and less of a gamble.

[lakeshow22Participant]

But do you see sullinger as a starting power forward next season? How affective can he be?

[lakeshow22Participant]

But do you see sullinger as a starting power forward next season? How affective can he be?

[SiggyParticipant]

If a banger is what you’re looking for then you can rule out Olynyk again. He’s not a physical banger and I think he’ll get tossed around by the stronger C’s of the league. I actually think his best bet is to try to make it as a PF so he can get more favorable matchups.

Don’t forget about cross matches. Again, if Sullinger is in the frontcourt, he can defend the stronger/less mobile front court player of the 2 . That’s usually what happens nowadays. I know that’s what my Bulls do. They have Boozer guarding the stronger player with Noah guarding the more mobile player. The Heat do the same as well with Udonis and Bosh.

[benny15Participant]

i get where you guys are comming from regarding dieng’s ability. putting him in the equation, you can say that he’s a better pick and roll player than Olynyk and a better pick and pop player than Plumlee while being hands down the better shot blocker between both. however, i question if he’s as strong as either in the post to bang with the other bigs in the NBA which is a role i want the celtics big to be able to play. it was a shame that he couldnt participate in the strength drills during the combine to answer any questions regarding that department.

you know what i mean? someone who can come in and be banger on both ends of the floor and get the opposing big out of his rhythm due to being more physical. the current “bangers” of the celtics are 6’8″ and i would prefer if they had someone that was taller who can be as physical as the Noahs and Hibberts of the east. and Fab Melo is still very much a project as his D-League numbers reflect.

[ropeParticipant]

I’d take Plumlee over Olynk. Plumlee tends to finish stronger around the rim, with dunks. Olynk always seems to be making a tricky layup or a finger roll. Olynk has a better jumper at the elbow, but I just see most of his work near the basket getting slapped back in his face.

Plumlee is clearly a better rebounder.

I would suggest either will be a star, but I think Plumlee has a lot better chance of being useful.

[ropeParticipant]

I’d take Plumlee over Olynk. Plumlee tends to finish stronger around the rim, with dunks. Olynk always seems to be making a tricky layup or a finger roll. Olynk has a better jumper at the elbow, but I just see most of his work near the basket getting slapped back in his face.

Plumlee is clearly a better rebounder.

I would suggest either will be a star, but I think Plumlee has a lot better chance of being useful.

[ropeParticipant]

I wouldn’t expect them to be stars. I should take some abuse for that typo.

[ropeParticipant]

I wouldn’t expect them to be stars. I should take some abuse for that typo.

[aramboneParticipant]

I’m a Celtics fan and very excited about Plumlee at this point. I was talking myself into Tony Mitchell, who is more mobile, a better shotblocker, and better jump shooter, and in most other ways comparable, but Plumlee has a steady high motor and consistency.

I really like that Plumlee could play high minutes at a high intensity level. Between center and power forward, he should be a mainstay on the court over the next several years.

He’s still improving offensively, pretty normal for 7 foot 23 year olds. Any kind of jumper from the ft line and his ceiling starts looking like 19/11 rebounds in high minutes.

[aramboneParticipant]

I’m a Celtics fan and very excited about Plumlee at this point. I was talking myself into Tony Mitchell, who is more mobile, a better shotblocker, and better jump shooter, and in most other ways comparable, but Plumlee has a steady high motor and consistency.

I really like that Plumlee could play high minutes at a high intensity level. Between center and power forward, he should be a mainstay on the court over the next several years.

He’s still improving offensively, pretty normal for 7 foot 23 year olds. Any kind of jumper from the ft line and his ceiling starts looking like 19/11 rebounds in high minutes.

[moochieeParticipant]

Celtics should go for a player with more upside…Saric, Adetokoubo, Adams, or Gobert would all be better options IMO.

[moochieeParticipant]

Celtics should go for a player with more upside…Saric, Adetokoubo, Adams, or Gobert would all be better options IMO.

[eleqtrique87Participant]

Having a big, strong, long, physical defensive big like Steven Adams at C would make it much easier to start Jared Sullinger at PF.

[eleqtrique87Participant]

Having a big, strong, long, physical defensive big like Steven Adams at C would make it much easier to start Jared Sullinger at PF.

[benny15Participant]

i dont think adams will be available by the time the celtics will be picking.

[benny15Participant]

i dont think adams will be available by the time the celtics will be picking.

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