The Cleveland Cavaliers have held internal discussions of pursuing a trade with the Portland Trail Blazers for LaMarcus Aldridge, according to sources.
The Cavaliers have enough assets in the form of young players and picks to acquire a player of Aldridge's caliber, but the front office is said to value Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters higher than the rest of the NBA.
Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports
Would be a solid piece to pair with Kyrie
Probably looking at Thompson and 2013 first rounder plus filler for Portland to even consider it. Portland needs depth and some semblance of a bench going forward and Cleveland has a lot of young assets.
That being said, LMA is one of the best PF's in the game and Portland should probably just laugh and hang up the phone.
They have cap room this summer right? I was thinking they pursued Al Jefferson depending who they draft.
Utah will resign Big Al I think and his salary is very high. They can as well try Millsap : the Jazz won't sign him because of Favors-Kanter...
If Varejao returns healthy and productive next year the team will look pretty good.
They are probably going to draft someone between McLemore,Porter, Oladipo and Shabazz.
In this case the starting 5 will look like:
3:Draft Pick (Small Ball in case of McLemore, Oladipo, but possible as they both played 3 in college and are 6-5)
If Portland trades LaMarcus ALDridge,1 of the top 5 power forwards in the NBA.To Cleveland for anyone besides Kyrie Irving.....Someone Should go BREAK their GM's LEGS......
Lol exactly. I'll give the Cavs credit though. They have really been gutsy the last couple of days. From talking to Phil Jackson about possible coaching. To rehiring Mike Brown. To now this. They are really trying to be taken seriously for the future. Maybe they are trying to put pieces together to try and lure Lebron back to Cleveland for the 2014 free agent class. Who knows....
I agree on you on the fact that this deal cannot happen! In fact I think they have more chance to land Kevin Love than Aldridge.
But to me Aldridge is not on the top 5 power forwards:
First, if you consider LeBron and Melo as PFs it's obvious.
Second: Kevin Love, Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Bosh and Kevin Garnett are better players even if some of them are 100 years old.
Then Pau Gasol, Blake Griffin, Zach Randolph, Serge Ibaka , Al Horford & David Lee are to me at least as good as LaMarcus.
That ranks him 12th. You might argue that your statement was for the next five-ten years(years that concerns Cleveland's Kyrie Era) but by then players like Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins , Andre Drummond or Kenneth Faried can explode, not Lamarcus.
You have him ranked as your 12th power forward? The only guy in the NBA averaging 21 and 9 and he's your 12th power forward? The same guy many consider to be the best PF in the game while Love is out... having him at 12th is disgraceful at best.
OK. Tim Duncan only plays the 4 when Splitter is on the court. Bosh has been a 5 for most of the season until the Birdman arrived. Horford is a natural 4, but unfortunately he's playing as a C (the same applies for KG).
IMO Aldridge is definitely a top 5 PF.
Im curious to see what Portland would want and who Cleveland would part with...Maybe Portland wants Anderson Varejoe and Cleveland's top pick in the draft plus Tristan Thompson, who says no. The Cavs wanted to trade Andy last year didn't they? With their cap space the could dump Andy/Tristan and the their top pick get Lamarcus Aldridge and still have cap space for 1 or 2 free agents (Mayo at Sg, Iggy at Sf or Pekovic at C) They could easily get Mayo or Iggy on the wing to help Irving and Aldridge, the Cavs would still have Waiters, Zeller and Gee plus a mid to late 1st round pick to add depth inside. Portland would be able to use Andy or trade him down the line if Leonard pans out sooner than expected, the Blazers could then resign Hickson if they so choose and start him at Pf alongside Varejoe, or start Tristan and use the cap space saved on Hickson to chase another player or player's, guys like Chase Budinger and Dejaun Blair could help them with depth, using the Cavs pick and their own in 2013 for 2 prospects they could draft a wing/big combo with the 2 picks, last year they made out well with the strategy getting Lilliard and Leonard...
My trade Idea is Anderson Varejoe, Tristan Thompson and the Cavs top pick in this years draft(lets say it's Shabbazz Mohammed or Ben Mclemore) for LaMarcus Aldridge and Will Barton and 2nd round pick...gives both teams flexibility going forward, Lillard becomes Portland's franchise player and gets Anderson Varejoe's hustle and hardwork, that along with young bigs Tristan Thompson and Meyers Leonard and 2 lottery picks plus some cap space to add depth to their bench or find a starter, The Cavs get All Star Pf Lamarcus Aldridge to pair with Kyrie Irving, Dion Waiters, Alonzo Gee and Tyler Zeller. They'd still have enough cap room to sign an impact player at G (Mayo) F (Iguadola) or C (Pekovic or Bynum) and they'll also still have enough picks to package to jump back into the lottery if they so choose (Cody Zeller)
It sounds like they want Waiters and Thompson, plus I'm imagining Cleveland's top pick, Cleveland has got to be at least trying to swap picks versus just losing it totally, Cleveland at 3 and Portland at ten. Portland won't do it but Cleveland does have a bunch of protected picks to offer also. I don't think anything will come of this because the lottery hasn't been determined yet. Noel would be perfect with LaMarcus, as a shot blocker and put back dunker with Lamarcus shooting at 16 feet. Why would Portland consider this now as Noel and Benny Mac could be won in the lottery.
Cleveland could offer a next years unprotected first rounder, which a team could consider gold, because of Kyrie and Andy's injury concerns. That could get a deal done, but the Cav's shouldn't do that. There is only ever two playoffs seeds available anyway, 6 teams are automatic, the Hawks and the Bucks are suspect next year, but the Wizards may be pretty good. Philly could turn things around also with a healthy Bynum or a sign and trade also.
Chris Grant is a smart guy, he will figure it out, maybe not this deal but he will figure it out.
If Cleveland did this while keeping Irving and Waiters, Irving would have to become more of a pure point guard than he currently is. With the way Irving and Waiters currently play, and the way that LMA plays, that's too many guys that just want to score and not pass, play defense, or rebound.
Saw it was Waiters, Thompson, and the #3. I love Aldridge, but that is a ton of talent going Portlands way. That could give them Lillard, Thompson, Waiters, and Noel/Porter? Having said that the Cavs future is very bright no matter what with Irving, Waiters, Thompson, and the #3.
Why would Portland entertain any offer that's not 1000% lopsided? They already have what Cleveland is trying to build. Lillard, Batum and Aldridge are a good core and one of them is on a rookie deal.
The Cav's used to be enamored with Batum and I bet he came up. He is well payed and will be for a long time, this may have been a smokescreen conversation to gauge each others value of their total rosters.
I don't think you could ask for more than Houston gave up for Harden because he's better than Aldridge, but Harden turned out to be a steal so maybe you can ask at least that much. LaMarcus has proven to be good on a good team before like Harden which makes him more valuable to me.
I think the Harden deal made it tougher for teams to deal for all star caliber talent. Young players like Lamb or whoever can't really contribute to good teams. Guys like Waiters and Thompson look good but for bad teams, much like Harkless, Harris and Vucevic look so great for Orlando. Its fools gold, if you want to compete in the League at the time. It may pay off down the road but those guys will all be getting their market value by then so its not that great of a deal. Those young and loaded Bulls teams (Deng, Curry, Chandler, Gordon, Nocioni, Hinrich etc.) didn't work out because at some point you have to give everybody between 10 and 14 million a season and its going to happen just as they are getting good.
If Kyrie Irving is ready to lead a team to the playoffs, this would be a great move for both teams, the Blazers would also have more young talent and Thompson and Waiters would be great sidekicks for the franchise then ran by Damian Lillard.
I'd be willing to move Waiters in this deal. LAM is exactly what they need.
He's a perfect fit with Irving.
Thompson and Waiters is a good starting point though.
Not willing to deal Thompson or Waiters for LA. Two years from now we would definitely regret trading Waiters, I'm 100 percent sure of it.
Varejao, Thompson, and the Cavs first round pick for Aldridge. The more I think about it, the more sense it makes for both sides. If Aldridge plays alongside Kyrie and Waiters that will immediately make them a playoff team and maybe even in contention for a 5ish seed. The Cavs would be giving up a lot, but remember they also have the 17th pick to pick a guy like Withey to be a defensive anchor. Aldridge and Withey/Dieng is probably a better combo than Thompson and Varejao. They also have the 31st and 33rd picks that they can maybe package to get another first round pick. And with all of their cap space, they would be a very attractive place for a guy like Iguodala, who would fit perfectly with them. The only problem for them is that they are trading youth for guys that are right around their peaks. Aldridge will be 28 before next season and Iggy is 29 (although it is obviously not a given at all that he would go there). I think if the Blazers want the Cavs to add in Waiters the Cavs should say no. Waiters is a stud and he and Kyrie form a backcourt that has the potential to average 45+ PPG.
For the Blazers, even if they lose Aldridge they would get Varejao and Thompson which is a really good return. The west is so deep that just building around Lillard and Aldridge probably won't get them until the playoffs, let alone the top of the west. Plus they will have two lottery picks (the Cavs top 5 pick and their own which looks like it will be 10th). That puts them in good position to add another back up big like Bennett and another good prospect of their choosing (McCollum, MCW, Saric, Adetokunbo, KCP, and Karasev are guys that will probably be around there).
A trade along the lines of this one will make both teams better. It would be great if it got done.
I also forgot to say the Blazers have a ton of cap space to work with too.
It makes a lot of sense for the Cavs, but why would the Blazers agree? Do you think Thompson will ever sniff Aldridge's level?
My point is... it could a fair trade, but it's not a reasonable trade for Portland at this moment, given that they are only a couple of pieces away from having a very strong team.
Don't get me wrong. I want to see Kyrie surrounded by a solid crew, too, but this trade won't happen.
One guy said it best...the Blazers don't NEED to do the this, the Cavs are the desperate ones. Why would they accept anything less than Thompson, Waiters, and the draft pick?
I like how active the Cavs have been so far in the post season. Cavs have too many rookies and 2nd year players so I like the idea of maybe trading one. However, I prefer if the Cavs traded their first rounder which should be 1-4, 17th, 32nd and 33rd. I am a massive TT fan so i cannot imagine trading him. I think Brown will go nuts with the defensive potential he shows/