While most people were puzzled by Cleveland's choice at #4 and trading for #17, this long article gives us all some great insight to the Cavaliers draft room. With that being said, their choices and the way they claim to conduct their pre-draft business totally contradict what really went down.
They claim to put a lot of emphasis on their interviews while bringing their players in for personal workouts. They brought in over 60 players, Zeller and Waiters were not included in those 60.
Coach Byron Scott stated that Waiters was the steal of the draft and was suprised he was still there at #4 for Cleveland to draft. Of course he was there. He seems like a huge reach with enormous bust potential.
While reading this, it was nice seeing that the organization got the player in Waiters that the wanted all along. But it doesnt sit well with most fans that they could have possibly traded down to draft him and accumulated some more pieces.
Another huge point in this article was something you have to read between the lines. Gm Chris Grant stated that he didnt want to bring in 4 rookies into camp this coming season. He wanted to being in 2, but possibly 3. So with that being said, Cleveland will almost certainly be in the lottery again next year, has the rights to Miami's 1st round choice with the option of trading that pick with the Lakers draft spot, and possibly Sacramento's 1st rounder should the restriction be lifted based on their record. Plus an additional 2 in the 2nd round. While its also known that next years draft wont be as deep, I cant help but be discouraged with what they'll do with all those pieces next year. 5 players is of course a ton of players to bring into camp, but Im hoping they dont piss them away like they did lastnight in a very deep pool of players they could have landed.
Just some insight into on how the Cleveland Cavaliers draft worked from the inside, and my thought on what to look forward to in the coming future.
Great article just shows how little us fans and the media pundits know about how a team thinks. Cleveland must have had Waiters on their radar for months and their front office and coaching staff had obviously done their homework. The interesting thing is that they did not get Waiters in for a work out, we know he had a promise outside the top 10 but if Chris Grant had called his agent and said "We'd like to see your guy as we like him as the 4th pick" then I'm sure Waiters would have been in Cleveland soon. But it would have alerted all other teams as well. We put a lot of stock into the private workouts but here Cleveland had not met with the guy.
I love the idea that they liked the sort of shots a guy scores with, not just his basic shooting percentages inside and outside the line. As regards Tyler Zeller, he went in his draft range and once Leonard was off the board was the best player of his type available and also gives Cleveland a nice link to his higher rated younger brother Cody who we assume declares next year when Cleveland again might be in the lottery.
Giving up 3 picks within the 24 to 34 range may seem a lot to move up to 17 but as Chris Grant said, he did not want 4 rookies on the roster with a young team and other picks due going forward he chose to consolidate his assets instead of maybe taking a European stasher or trading for a future pick.
Cleveland's draft choices may not have been consensus but we said the same thing last year and so we can probably say they have taken another step forward from the LeBron era.
As regards Waiters and Zeller, I'd guess they both start from the bench although unless Anthony Parker returned then either Hudson or Gibson would need to start if Waiters came from the bench. Parker would be a good guy to help mentor Waiters so bringing him back for veteran's minimum might make sense.
Hitster, I agree with you mostly. However, I don't think Kyrie Irving will let them be in the lottery again next year. Also, Lester Hudson was released by the Cavaliers last April. He signed with Memphis and has since become a free agent again, as Memphis has declined to extend a qualifying offer to him.
Daniel Gibson is under contract through the end of this year, and he might have a little bit of value as an expiring contract when the trade deadline approaches.
Anthony Parker has retired.
They will match any offer extended to Alonzo Gee, but will probably try to move Anderson Varejao for a younger player who can add some depth on the wings.
the cavs will DEFINATELY be in the lottery next year barring some unforseen trade miracle.. their team is just too young and inexperienced.
Philadephia got the No. 8 seed at 35-31. The Cavs won 21 games in a season when their best player was a rookie who couldn't even work out in the Cavs' facilities during the lockout and only played 11 games in college the year prior, but still had one of the best rookie seasons in the history of NBA point guards, while only playing 28 minutes a night.
You don't think his improvement, maturity, increase in minutes, and overall affect on the team has any chance whatsoever of improving their won-loss record by perhaps 12-15 games or so, especially in an east that has an injured Derrick Rose, an outgoing Dwight Howard, a broken-up Boston Trio, and a Knicks team in disarray?
I don't think Scott or the Cavs FO will be trying their hardest to get to the playoffs next year...
They wouldn't intentionally rob Kyrie of getting some playoff experience but I can imagine them shortening his minutes (especially in the fourth quarter when he seems to take over games) so that they can stay in the lottery.
Kyrie was fine the last 10 games of the season but the Cavs sat him still just so they could get better draft position.
They don't want to be stuck in that limbo of being just good enough to make the playoffs but not getting high enough draft picks to take them over the top. Championship building takes time, and they need to suffer 2 more seasons AT MOST of tanking to get top 5 draft picks.
I don't think the Cavs have found Kyrie a legit partner in crime yet and I'd imagine they want to find that player in the draft instead of over spending in free agency.
Thanks for the feedback, Cleveland progressed from 19-63 to 21-45 last year and should improve again. Even if Irving puts up well over 20ppg, I personally don't think they will be near the play offs next year, 30 wins would be a good target and I see their upside being 35 wins. Teams have scraped into 8th seeding out East with under 40 wins and a lot of teams in that Conference could well change their rotations over the coming months but Cleveland would probably be best served if they had another year in the lottery. A lot could depend if Jamison returns as he can still probably give them 15ppg and would be a good mentor for Zeller. If he moves on then his scoring and minutes would need to be filled. I'd forgotten that Anthony Parker had retired but perhaps he could still have a hand in mentoring Waiters.