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- Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 7:29am #56466
cheetosjalapeno17ParticipantI’ve seen highlights from this guy in both highschool and in NC state and he seems like a pretty interesting prospect. Is he someone that is on the rise next year or was his mixtape just impressive? To the guys that actually watched him closely, how was he in NC state and what kind of player will he likely be in the NBA? Who does he compare to? Thanks guys!
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 8:27am #921436
Taylor Gang MikeParticipantHes a cross between Marquis Teague, Rondo or Rafer Alston aka Skip to my Lou.. His handle is crazy and he can get to the rim easily, so thats where I see those players in him.. He also cant shoot, so once again I see those players in him hahaha. Even tho Skip was an ok shooter.. He needs to pass and create better for teammates, which is why hes not fully Rondo yet.. But remember, I think Rondo was a 2 or 3 year player. So Cat has a bright future
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 8:27am #921308
Taylor Gang MikeParticipantHes a cross between Marquis Teague, Rondo or Rafer Alston aka Skip to my Lou.. His handle is crazy and he can get to the rim easily, so thats where I see those players in him.. He also cant shoot, so once again I see those players in him hahaha. Even tho Skip was an ok shooter.. He needs to pass and create better for teammates, which is why hes not fully Rondo yet.. But remember, I think Rondo was a 2 or 3 year player. So Cat has a bright future
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 8:46am #921447
Lotto StudParticipantI watched a good share of Wolfpack games this year and Barber played really well from distributing the ball, especially to his bigs which really is a great indicator that he can be patient to run an offense. On the HS level he was primarily known as a scorer but that’s not his role within Gottfried’s system. Right now all he needs to work on is developing a good consistent jumper more than anything, because the ability to score is not an issue. Also gradually adding muscle mass to his wiry thin frame, will help him absorb the contact while trying to attack and finish around the rim. His body has a definition that shows he can become very chisled if he applies himself in the weight room.
I wouldn’t bank on him this early to leave after this season, but I do expect him to become more polished as a PG prospect if he takes this offseason serious enough to hone his overall skills.
If I have to give a reasonable comparison for Barber, I will say he’s a scoring version of Myck Kabongo. This is not a knock on Barber at all because I believe he will be a very solid prospect heading forward. He’s not the passer Kabongo is but he is quite similar in other aspects of his game as far as quickness with the ball for example.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 8:46am #921320
Lotto StudParticipantI watched a good share of Wolfpack games this year and Barber played really well from distributing the ball, especially to his bigs which really is a great indicator that he can be patient to run an offense. On the HS level he was primarily known as a scorer but that’s not his role within Gottfried’s system. Right now all he needs to work on is developing a good consistent jumper more than anything, because the ability to score is not an issue. Also gradually adding muscle mass to his wiry thin frame, will help him absorb the contact while trying to attack and finish around the rim. His body has a definition that shows he can become very chisled if he applies himself in the weight room.
I wouldn’t bank on him this early to leave after this season, but I do expect him to become more polished as a PG prospect if he takes this offseason serious enough to hone his overall skills.
If I have to give a reasonable comparison for Barber, I will say he’s a scoring version of Myck Kabongo. This is not a knock on Barber at all because I believe he will be a very solid prospect heading forward. He’s not the passer Kabongo is but he is quite similar in other aspects of his game as far as quickness with the ball for example.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 9:19am #921465
livinlegend4blkParticipantLike a poor version of Brandon Knight without the consistent jumper.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 9:19am #921338
livinlegend4blkParticipantLike a poor version of Brandon Knight without the consistent jumper.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 10:09am #921373
TarHeelRavenParticipantI like Cat. Obviously I watch a lot of ACC basketball being a UNC fan. He’s got the quickness and athleticism. He’s one of many college guys who needs to take about 10,000 jumpers over the summer. He really was reluctant to shoot the mid-range jumper last year. He basically made that Tyler kid transfer because he took his job, the mcdonald’s all-american. I don’t remember his last name but he looked like Justin Beiber. Cat has some good tools and I think he’ll be a good player this year and will have a chance to be drafted with another couple years of improvement.
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 10:59am #921403
Lotto StudParticipantI honestly don’t know how he got into Oak Hill. I thought he was a below average player in comparison to all the former Oak Hill PGs that passed through. Someone in the forum introduced us all to him prior to enrolling at Oak Hill with a mixtape. At the time I believe someone mentioned him of possibly becoming another Steve Nash. I knew his Wolfpack career was in jeopardy once Barber committed. Greg Paulus would be a better read now rather than Nash, if one were to compare him to another player. Becoming a Mickey D’s participant really hurt him because he was placed under a microscope which forced expectations.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 10:59am #921532
Lotto StudParticipantI honestly don’t know how he got into Oak Hill. I thought he was a below average player in comparison to all the former Oak Hill PGs that passed through. Someone in the forum introduced us all to him prior to enrolling at Oak Hill with a mixtape. At the time I believe someone mentioned him of possibly becoming another Steve Nash. I knew his Wolfpack career was in jeopardy once Barber committed. Greg Paulus would be a better read now rather than Nash, if one were to compare him to another player. Becoming a Mickey D’s participant really hurt him because he was placed under a microscope which forced expectations.
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 10:09am #921502
TarHeelRavenParticipantI like Cat. Obviously I watch a lot of ACC basketball being a UNC fan. He’s got the quickness and athleticism. He’s one of many college guys who needs to take about 10,000 jumpers over the summer. He really was reluctant to shoot the mid-range jumper last year. He basically made that Tyler kid transfer because he took his job, the mcdonald’s all-american. I don’t remember his last name but he looked like Justin Beiber. Cat has some good tools and I think he’ll be a good player this year and will have a chance to be drafted with another couple years of improvement.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 2:26pm #921618
TarHeelRavenParticipantYes Tyler Lewis…I just remember he wasn’t very good.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 2:26pm #921489
TarHeelRavenParticipantYes Tyler Lewis…I just remember he wasn’t very good.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 4:56pm #921696
cheetosjalapeno17ParticipantWill he be the star of the wolfpack next season with TJ warren leaving? and correct me if i’m wrong, (i may as well be) but isnt averaging 3.5 assists pretty decent in the NCAA? I dont think he was even the full time starter right?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 4:56pm #921567
cheetosjalapeno17ParticipantWill he be the star of the wolfpack next season with TJ warren leaving? and correct me if i’m wrong, (i may as well be) but isnt averaging 3.5 assists pretty decent in the NCAA? I dont think he was even the full time starter right?
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 6:10pm #921617
Lotto StudParticipantYou are correct! This is why I highlighted the fact in my original post, that he showed great patience of a guy that can run an offense especially through his bigs. I watched more than a handful of games and he showed poise in tough situations. Barber was never in a rush to jack up a shot or attack the rim just to pad his stats. He’s reset the offense a many of times during critical situations when the flow needed to change.
I don’t think you would want him to be your star player. If Barber becomes your star it will take away from his progression of becoming a complete PG. He is a scorer by nature and if he gets tunnel vision you will have to kiss those assist numbers goodbye.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 6:10pm #921746
Lotto StudParticipantYou are correct! This is why I highlighted the fact in my original post, that he showed great patience of a guy that can run an offense especially through his bigs. I watched more than a handful of games and he showed poise in tough situations. Barber was never in a rush to jack up a shot or attack the rim just to pad his stats. He’s reset the offense a many of times during critical situations when the flow needed to change.
I don’t think you would want him to be your star player. If Barber becomes your star it will take away from his progression of becoming a complete PG. He is a scorer by nature and if he gets tunnel vision you will have to kiss those assist numbers goodbye.
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 6:37pm #921631
Taylor Gang MikeParticipantRemember the Martin twins for NC state.. They are really really good.. Really good players. They play like Melo/Tobias Harris..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2014 - 6:37pm #921760
Taylor Gang MikeParticipantRemember the Martin twins for NC state.. They are really really good.. Really good players. They play like Melo/Tobias Harris..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/21/2014 - 4:19pm #923746
Sabdiego12345678Participanthe has a lot of potential and might be the fastest player in college next year there has recenlty been a picture of him on the internet and hes really bulked up
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/21/2014 - 4:19pm #923873
Sabdiego12345678Participanthe has a lot of potential and might be the fastest player in college next year there has recenlty been a picture of him on the internet and hes really bulked up
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/21/2014 - 5:54pm #923911
machu46ParticipantI only got a chance to see Cat when he faced Syracuse and the NCAA tourny games. You can see the potential is there. He’s incredibly quick and has a great handle. Having said that, he looked out of control pretty much every time I saw him, including doing everything in his power to blow the game at Syracuse at the end. Just seems like the game hasn’t really slowed down for him yet. If it does he has the talent to be a difference maker at least in college, but he wasn’t very good this year (in the games that I was able to see).
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/21/2014 - 5:54pm #923784
machu46ParticipantI only got a chance to see Cat when he faced Syracuse and the NCAA tourny games. You can see the potential is there. He’s incredibly quick and has a great handle. Having said that, he looked out of control pretty much every time I saw him, including doing everything in his power to blow the game at Syracuse at the end. Just seems like the game hasn’t really slowed down for him yet. If it does he has the talent to be a difference maker at least in college, but he wasn’t very good this year (in the games that I was able to see).
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