Carolina is in TROUBLE people
The score is 53-41 as I write this but even when it was 32-30 I felt the exact same way that I did last year, like I knew they just weren't going to win. Roy Williams has said that he feels much better about his squad than last year, but i'm getting the feeling he just doesn't want them thinking he has no faith in them this early. I don't see any growth from Larry Drew, and Harrison Barnes, regardless of his talent, hasn't emerged as the rare take-charge kind of freshman I thought he would be.
I am a huge Carolina fan and this is disheartening. If anyone out there disagrees please hit me with the optimism, because I'm feeling NIT again.........
I've been back and forth between UNC-Ill and Gtown- Mizzou
But Henson has had some nice post moves, I've liked his play this year....sorry man, thats all i got for optimism.
I was just about to make a post about the same thing. Im having less and less faith in harrison barnes because he doesn't even try to take over. I'd have more faith if he would force some shots and try to take over. I feel ashamed for thinking he had the kobe fire in him because he clearly doesn't. Letting the game come to him would be great on a team like Duke or a stacked team but on this team it just isn't gonna work. It looks like another long year for carolina and there 5 McDonalds AllAmerican ( i can imagin what Gary Williams could do with 5 of those. Hell just give us 2)
their starting back court can't shoot and don't make anyone else better- Dexter Strickland has no offensive game and his jump shot is broke! Harrison looks lost on defense and can't get anything going because the lane is clogged- teams sag off Dexter and Larrry inviting them to take open jump shots- Harrison also shows no emotion and doesn't demand the ball enough. His shot selection has been terrible and he like to fadeaway on his jump shots. Kendall Marshall is slow footed on defense and has looked lost st times tonight. This team will be in trouble again next year- you have to have a solid back court and a good point guard in the NCAA.
The one bright spot has been the play of Tyler Zeller and John Henson. Both players have put on some much needed muscle and weight- both players could still use another 20 plus pounds (don't think John has the body to do so).
How are they in trouble they simply lost to a team that was more talented and better then them
There are some great jump hooks displayed by the bigs on both sides in this game!
Whatever Roy Williams is preaching, its going in and out the other ear. He is doing his turning his back to live action/ preaching to the bench thing again.
As far as Barnes goes, he is having trouble hanging with the big boys. I see no NBA star potential at this point. He has not shown me anything in any aspect of the game.
And I absolutely love it. I'm trying to enjoy it while I can, because I know they'll be back in the top 5-10 soon.
Their decission making is so bad. Its hard to watch this bs especially being a die hard tarheel fan
they are in trouble if you watch them play. its not just them losing its how they lose and how behind they are compared to other top teams Ncaa tournament hopeful teams and they still have to deal with the ACC
the basketball IQ as a whole is awful!
@Jowoelf1 thanks lol. I've liked both he and Zeller this year.
Yeah it was never Barnes' physical ability that had me thinking he would be a star, but the discipline people raved about and his great maturity. He is known for having an incredible work ethic. I feel like experience is the key with him, building his confidence. It would just be nice if we knew that this group would be back together a year from now, but not likely in the 1 and done age.
Williams recruiting has some fault, none of his guys are tough and don't look like they have a will to win. Look at Jamie Dixon, he takes all the guys no body wants but because they have a will to win and a passion for the game their in the top 10 every year, Williams needs to take a page out of Dixons book at recruit some of those tough-nosed guys.
Lets bot get it confused. That's not the main reason Dixon gets those players. He would love to gt the Carolina players as would every other top college team in America( all these other colleges recruited these same players that NC has). The thing is these players haven't lived up to expectations. Strickland was supposed to come in and be a very good scorer. Henson was supposed to be one and done. Barnes was supposed to be dominating. Drew was supposed to be the next very good NC point guard. Zeller is the only one who has lived up to what he was thought to be and possible more
i finally hear the overrated chants that i figured would come when Harrison Barnes shot his free throw
it's not all about talent though, you have to evaluate a players mind too. I'd much rather have a less-skilled guy who wants to be out their than a McDonald's All-American that all he cares about is going to the NBA and getting his one year out of the way. That's the problem with recruiting these days, coaches need to get more 4 year players that will help the new guys out, that's where Dixon gets it and Roy doesn't.
Yeah, I agree, stanfordhoops, not only have they not lived up to their hype thus far, but I'd call(based on their play this season) Drew and Strickland the worst starting back court in the ACC.
Roy was prone to down years, even at Kansas, he'd throw together guys like Gregory and Chenowith who were huge players coming out of high school and they'd be sub par. Roy is an elite coach, but sometimes he can't get players to play together. It's not because he isn't a motivator or that the players don't respect him, I don't know what it is, but he's struggled in the past with groups of players he didn't really mesh with and been unstoppable with guys that really clicked.
Roy needs to compliment his players every once in awhile, that coaching with his back is just stupid and disrespectful to the players on the court and they see that, maybe that's why they don't play hard. A compliment or a high five from Roy might help raise spirits and help them play better, he's a great coach but that back to the players thing is getting old.
can you believe the acc has only 1 tteam in the top 25 and thats Duke
Why are people pushing the panic button already? I'll agree things don't look good so far but it looks like this team has yet to gel. Besides it's way to early in the season, if UNC is still playing like this late to mid January then we have a problem. It seems like Coach Williams is loyal to Drew and wants him work out the kinks, but he need to be the 3 or 4th guard off the bench period. I don't know who was worst as the starting PG Larry Drew or Quentin Thomas! Both Kendall Marshall and Reggie Bullock needs to start like today. I understand they are freshman but it can be worst than what they are getting now, to me Strickland is much better off the bench, also the offense need to be run through Barnes I really like how Zeller and Henson are developing, but I think the UNC offense would be more fluid. Speaking of Barnes, why does he look so tentative? You can see he's letting his offense affect his defense.
I didn't think Harrison Barnes was going to have the impact many people projected him to have because I never heard of him having that take over ability, i read he was soft to many times for my liking, and his personality is too laid back he's too nice of a guy and doesn't have that kill kill in his eye.
But with that said I am shocked to see him play this bad. He isn't even shooting well and that is probably his greatest attribute.
But Barnes will come a long. Once he starts hitting his jumpers it's going to mean trouble for the ACC. I think he is going to have a break out game, possibly against Kentucky and just start rolling from there. By the end of the year I think Barnes will be averaging around 17, 7 and 3 assists.
yeah if Barnes has one thing its a good head on his shoulders....he won't let all this negative press he's about to have get to him too bad.....he will be ok just not the clear cut best player in the draft....I've heard someone say this before....oh yeah it was me (six shooters in air).....
but for real how about my boy Jereme Richmond???? He put it on Barnes' ass tonight!!!!!!!!!
I dunno what to make of Jereme Richmond he reminds me a lil of Gerard Wallace. He is def a 3 year player tho.
I've seen a lot of him like probably 50 games and I still don't know what to make of him....except that he is def not a 3 year player....
I do know what to make of him, he is awesome.....I have no clue who to compare him to.,,,he can play all 5 spots that is a fact.....
Then maybe he will be like a Jordan Hamilton he comes out as a sophomore and just crushes it to move into a top ten draft pick. All i know is thus far he nowhere near ready to enter the draft. He would probably go late first round if he got drafted cuz he will destroy it in workouts but it would be a bad move because his skill needs to catch up with his body and he would have zero impact in the league. A sophomore stud seems like a good projection for Richmond.
OH and I absolutely hate his first name. I'm sorry but Jereme? I keep wanting to call him Jeremy. Jereme is bad I don't like it. It ends too wrong for a first name. It's like a cliff hanger you say his name and this there should be more.
Carolina doesn't have a good point guard or a take over type player that can score when he wants to. They can fix that by starting Marshall and Bullock but still have trouble inside. They have no toughness inside, someone to do the dirty work. They have talent but they just don't have the pieces to make it work this year IMO.
WHATS WRONG WITH HARRISON BARNES
WHATS WRONG WITH HARRISON BARNES
WHATS WRONG WITH HARRISON BARNES
THATS ALL YOU HEAR WATCHING A UNC GAME.
BUT THERE'S LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!
unc has no pg play at all larry drew has gotten worse instead of better its time for him to go to the bench and stay there it also doesnt help they have no depth at all in the front court