Carmelo to the Knicks does not look so crazy now.
Denver even said they would move him for a deal and not let it be like Cleveland so this could mean that Knicks could possibly land him by the trade deadline. This would give the Knicks enough time to showcase their young talent and increase their value. Also if the Knicks take on more money in this trade they could possibly still have enough to do a Chris Paul deal. I know some of these things seem like they may never happen but think about it, if Carmelo leaves Denver, the only place he is going to will be New York. Amare and Melo together would be too tempting for Paul not to look into.
I hope so! 'Melo is my Boy now!
But wasnt Lebon supposed to come to New York, and then Bosh follow kind of like this?
Dont get your hopes up, and how do you know he couldnt be traded to an already contender like the Lakers?
Other teams could give better offer better than what New York would offer (keeping assets aside for a Paul trade).
Also its stupid to say Knicks are the only team in the race.
Why wouldnt he consider his hometown Brooklyn Nets?
exactly@timmyforprez...shewlton is one of those knicks fans that things every one is going to newyork. pay him no mind just like lebron going there and joe johnson,bosh,boozer..etc
the knicks have no one that the nuggest want and other teams have better offers. plus melo said he would liek to play home first and formost and last time i checked home was washington/maryland.
please crazy knicks fans give it a rest for once and let things play out...its getting reallllllll old
I thought he was born in Brooklyn?
hes from bmore though..just liek jordan was born in ny but is from/grew up in nc
Sheltwon is not a Knicks fan for one and Melo has already suggested he would not mind playing for the Knicks and I know his wife wants to be in New York.
I hate when people speak on things they don't know
You better be the same person to be outspoken when I am right. I never for once believe that Lebron was coming the New York but I felt it was an option. I have always wanted them to get Melo. Also who would Lakers give up to get Melo. They only person they could deal for Melo would be Gasol, Bynum, or Kobe. None of those players are going anywhere.
EVERYONE SAYS THEY WOULDNT MIND PLAYING FOR THE KNICKS...good lord yet they never end up picking the knicks. the knicks re just one of many other teams they wouldnt mind playing for. the reporters ask them if they wouldnt mind playing for the knicks because its new york. as a matter of fact whens the last time a player said they wouldnt wanna go to a certain team
I am a Lakers/Hornets fan. My homeboy is a Knicks fan so I know a lot about them and I am a fan of basketball and I have followed the Knicks almost as much as my teams so I know a lot about them and I also know Melo would love to play there.
Also quick selling New York short, they have a lot of young talent that will show you just how much they have. You guys act like they are nothing but scrubs. It is laughable that basketball fans only know about a few teams in the NBA. I know about all the teams and I know a lil about some college teams and players.
Melo actually has control over where he is going because he will be a free agent next year unlike Chris Paul.
If he says he wants to go to the Knicks, Denver will have to do it. No team would sacrifice their players if they felt Melo would be traded and leave to go to play for whatever team he wanted.
Has Melo spoke about any team he would play for beside Denver and New York?
I have been saying all along before Lebron made his decision that Melo could come to New York.
denver would easily take bynum and some draft picks for melo if he wanted to leave and trust me the lakers would give bynum up for that. the knicks have nothing denver wants. the reality is other teams have wayyy better options for denver then the knicks.
and no i wont be outspoken if he goes there because you and or other knicks fans say every star is going there so if one goes they think they knew it all along. if i think every shot i shoot is gonna go in then one our of ten goes in thats not nothing to be outspoken about
There's a reason that the Wizards didn't make any large moves in the offseason. They are seriously hoping Melo is going to return home to play with John Wall..... I think it is one of his most likely destinations. I mean think about it.... Would you rather play with a player like Stoudemire, who is going to command the ball just as much if not more than you, or would you play with a player like John Wall, who is a young stud and who is going to set you up more?
Since they have had money, who has said that. They never had any money and Lebron chose to play with Wade and Bosh over New York. It was not like he just said no to New York. Miami situation was better for him. I never wanted New York to get Lebron because Melo and him play the same position. I did not like the idea of him at point guard and also where would Gallo play. Gallo can still start if Knicks get Melo.
We will see and when I am right please give me my due.
Also why do people come to posts just to hate, I mean if you can't add anything to the posts outside of bringing up negative stuff that is unrelated why posts about a topic. It is a free country and all but what is the point. Right now based on everything that was said New York is a front runner. I did not say Melo to New York is a definite. I said Melo to New York is not looking so crazy now. It isnt because if he leaves Denver, New York will be a spot he will be looking at. Not many teams have the money and a star player to play with. Miami has no more money. Lakers, Boston, and Atlanta are over the cap. New Orleans is my team but honestly they will have trouble keeping Paul so I doubt Melo goes there. I love my team but right now they need to start over with young players and they have enough young player now that if they start over they could be a top team in the West in 3 years but if they try to keep on to Paul and trade for better older players they will screw up their future and lose Paul.
maybe its because fans on here arent the only ones saying the knicks dont have th eplayers teams want?...there are alot of write ups by basketball writers and basketball people who think the same thing. add to that the knicks have already tried trading chandler and other players but no one wanted them.
melo hasnt talked about any team he just answered a question thats why the knicks came up and people arent hating on the knicks we are just sick and tired of people liek you and some of the other knicks fans who think its a done deal that every star is going there. the knicks do not have the lead for stars. they are just like the other teams that want the stars, but for some reason that just doesnt seem to register with you and some other on here
and we all are basketball fans, we all know alot about the knicks just like you. you know no more about them then any other guy who watchs the games or looks them up on the internet. youre not int he front office nor are you friends with the coach,players just like us
He might have been born in brooklyn, but if you look at the charity work and stuff he does The D.C. metropolitan area is his home. I don't think it would happen but damn could you imagine that lineup, John Wall/Gilbert Arenas/Carmelo Anthony/Andray Blatche/Javale Mcgee with Kirk Hinrich, Nick Young, Al Thornton, Kevin Serpahin, Trevor Booker, off the bench.
ill give you this... i can guarentee NOBODY thought lebron wade and bosh would go to miami... so why not melo cp3 and amare in ny?
Melo would have to choose the Lakers, and most top players have no trade clauses or trade restrictions and until Melo says he wants to go there, I would not count it. Also unless Lakers felt Bynum would always be hurt, why give up a potential top Center for a small forward who needs the ball a lot when you have Kobe, Gasol, and Artest. Melo would not get the same touches or be a better fit than Bynum. That would be stupid for Lakers to trade him unless they knew he was hurt and in that case Denver would have to be stupid to take a damaged Center for their star player. Also New York is a better fit for Melo.
I think you guys are knocking my Melo to New York and saying stuff like Melo to LA like that is so much better.
it doesnt matter why these players didnt go the fact is THEY DIDNT GO.
and who comes to hate. we are just tired of hearing every single day about a star going to the knicks or the knicks have the lead for this or that guy when history has shown they dont have the lead for this or that guy. its different when a guy says they think this star should go here or hope this guy goes here
it becomes annoying and down right obsessive when people constantly say "He's going to the knicks for sure" or "The knicks are his favorite team".when reality is we dont know who his favorite team is or where he wants to go. one source says he wants to stay and is waitng for management to get settled, another says he wants to play home, another says the knicks etc. the fact of the matter is not one of us knows who's in the lead for him or if hes gonna leave or resign so knicks fans need to stop acting like they have the insider info.
And i say knicks fans(some) not because I'm hating but because those are the only fans that constantly say they know for sure that this or that star is going to there team. other fans says "i hope he comes or id like for him to come" but some knicks fans just act liek they are entitled to every single star that becomes a free agent or wants a trade and just about every time they dont get that player and then the excuses come
DA1pot, you actually picked a situation that has some legitimacy without knocking the Knicks to be a hater. The problem with that would be what happens with Arenas. That franchise has taken some hits with the Arenas thing and also with their coach Flip Saunders. Players seem to like D' Antoni. I would not put it past Wizards to try and they have some nice young pieces to give up in a trade.
They key thing will be does, Melo and his wife want to go there. So far Melo has yet to say anything concerning Washington but that could change.
Also I am not a Knicks fans and unlike those guys who were saying Lebron this and that I have always wanted Melo to go to the Knicks and it was possible for Lebron to go to New York because who would have thought Miami could get all 3 players. I felt like it was going to be a pairs thing and in that case New York has a legit chance but there is no way a player would turn down a chance to pair with 2 other max guys something New York could not do. Also Joe Johnson wanted to come to the Knicks but he also wanted to make more money so he chose money over New York.
You guys act like nobody wanted to come there at all
thertes no reason that melo couldnt go to a bunch of different teams. nothings impossible but how many other teams fans are saying its a sure thing that they are in the lead or they will get melo?..how many other teams fans have said that about any player in all the years that theres been chat on here?
but then when you dont agree with them and think the star is going somewhere else then all of a sudden youre a hater. even though the people saying all the stars will go there are the opposite which is d*^k riders
Stanford at what point am I a Knicksfan. I have talked about everything and about every team and have put up some New Orleans Hornets trades.
Don't count me in with the Knicksfan. This is Sheltwon saying that the remarks about me speaking on Paul and Melo to New York were before most people really gave it a thought and it came up nationally.
I knew Paul was tired of losing in New Orleans and I knew that if they kept Collison that Paul that showed Paul was on the fence because they could not trade Collison knowing Paul could and possibly will jet but right now because he has two year, he has to get things on the low and be politically correct.
If you look at Denver's team situation, it is going downhill and even though talent wise when healthy they are on the level close to the Lakers, they are hurting and contracts are about to be up, this is the time for Melo to jump ship and go to a up and coming team that has young players and veterans that are still in their prime years or coming close to it.
There are lots of situation like that and New York is one of them.
Washington could possibly be a situation too because they have young players and contracts to move that are expiring.
I am a Lakers fans and I would be shocked if they traded Bynum for Melo. I do not see that working. It looks great on paper but it does not give Lakers, a better balance. When healthy Bynum is worth more than a high scoring forward especially since now, Lakers are deep at the small forward position.
I am not a Knicks' fan
Don't group me with other Knicks fans you know
This is not to knock any Knicks fans because I know a few and one of my good friends is a Knicks fan
I make observations and I have been seeing Melo to New York for a long time and not there is more
evidence to show that I am right and if there were indications that Melo would go to New Orleans I would have said that too but would I have been a fan boy then.
How many time will I have to say it before it sinks into your heads.
As a basketball fan who wants the Knicks to suck after all the years or them being terrible.
I don't even want Minny to suck but they need to remove Kahn to help them there.
It is time for New York to be a great team and they have a legit chance to get Melo and they should do it.
I think without Melo they are a 7th or 8th seed and with him they could be a 4 seed. Celtics are getting old and right now if Knicks get Melo, it would be between them and Miami to come out of the East.
I don't see how anything I have said is far fetched or even fan boyism.
Everything I have been saying makes a lot of sense.
Saying Raymond Felton will average 20 & 9 is a little boyism.
Steve Nash is ten times the player he is and hes never eve averaged 20 points in that system.
I guarantee that if the thing keeping Melo from coming to Washington is the presence of Arenas, the Wizards will do everything in their power to try and get rid of him immediately... Sheltwon you bring up an interesting point though, do you think that if Melo doesn't resign by the trade deadline that the Nuggets would actually trade him?
if im the nuggets, im not trading melo unless he flat out tells me he is not resigning. I would rather risk losing him for nohting then trade away a franchise player if we have any chance of resigning him.
timma, Steve Nash could have average more than that but he has more players to pass to and Felton will not have to keep as many players happy as Nash had to.
felton will not i repeat will not avg 20pts 9ast
But i thought you said Anthony Randolph, has better potential than Kevin Durant, Danillo Gallenari has a better perimeter game than Kevin Durant, and they have Amare too.
They just said they would trade him if they felt he would not be coming back. I think they would be able to get more from a team if they did it before the deadline rather than do a sign and trade after free agency starts. I am pretty sure if Melo has not signed yet, he knows he can get a max deal on the open market so he is on he way out. Denver is not good enough for him to take less money to stay. Maybe if they max him out now he stays but if not I am sure he will bounce.
Da1pot, I am not saying Arenas is the issue. I am saying after a player like Arenas who is well liked gets treated like that, who wants to play for Washington. Washington kinda threw Arenas under the bus.
Stuff can get covered up and this was something that Washington could have covered up but they didnt.
They did Arenas dirty regardless of what he did. John Wall is the only reason a player would even consider them. I think they have some nice pieces to get the deal done but I doubt his wife wants to go to DC.
I stayed close to VA bruh and people talk about visiting DC and stuff but not staying there.
I did say say that Anthony Randolph has greater potential than Kevin Durant. I miswrote that thing about the perimeter game though.
I believe he has great potential than Kevin Durant. I never said he would reach it. You people assume stuff. Read what I have said not what you take it to me. Durant is one of my favorite players and I think he is a top 3 scorer behind Kobe and Melo.
Randolph can do more things than Durant and is bigger. You can't just take one attribute and say another players has greater potential. Durant may come closer to his potential than Randolph but Randolph still has a great potential.
He has the raw talent to do everything Durant can do and more. Will he do that, maybe not but still that is the thing about potential.
Randolph has the potential to be a great defender and Durant at best can be decent but he does not have the size, strength and instinct to be that. He has good length though and he works hard but some stuff that Durant will have to work hard at is easy for Randolph.
The thing about potential is a consider skill potential too, the potential to be even more skill, Anthony Randolph has incredibly physcal skills but he makes,a lot of bonehead plaays on offense and defense, doesnt have the feel for the game od Durant.
I guess you could argue he has more potential, based on his body, bur Durant still is rawer than most people think, hes still very skinny, and once ho fills out and gets to the free throw line even more i think hell be better than any potential Randolph has.
Melo played and won for Syracuse who gets to play some home games in New York's MSG, it makes sense.
Randolph has more potential than Durant? I don't believe what I'm reading...And you did state in the opening post to this thread "if Carmelo leaves Denver, the only place he is going to will be New York.", and then you backtrack when people say your a knicksfan. I think you lack confidence to stand by your statements...And just by reading this thread, it's pretty well known that you lack the knowledge to legitimately discuss basketball...WOW!
If Melo is still under contract which he is...And Denver is smart enough to trade him instead of lose him which they are...Melo has no trade clause and they have no real reason to let him have a say so in the process...Then I am thinking that would mean that the Nuggets would send him to the team they could get the best deal. If he signs somewhere after the season then so be it. With that said, I'm not sure NY could offer the best deal. As of right now the best NY could do would be some combination of Eddie Curry, Danilo, and Anthony Randolph and maybe a draft pick way out in the future. Not saying that is bad, but we don't know if NY would give up those guys and there would likely be some better offers out there, especially if the team knows they could land him long term with an extension.
melo to washingon actually makes alot of sense. washington could trade draft picks, josh howard, andray blatche/yi, nick young, booker/seraphin for melo. they have the assets is my point. i still think they need to get rid of arenas if they want to continue building a good team. maybe trade arenas to orlando for carter(expiring), and daniel orton. it make sense to me but everyone has their own opinion. but if they could pull off those 2 trades they would have a team built around quite a few young guys which is always good. for example build around wall, melo, mcgee, orton, seraphin, hinrich. thats a solid start and they could have all those pieces in place by the middle of the year. they would still need more pieces but wall, melo, and mcgee alone is very promising.
and ny couldnt get both cp3 and melo through trade because they dont have the pieces for both. best shot at a team of amare, cp3 and melo would be to trade for paul and hope melo signs straight up in free agency next summer. then they could possibly build around amare, cp3, melo, and gallinari. ny cant get everybody but all their chips for getting better rely on trades and free agency. they wont be able to build a team like okc until like 2014 because they have traded away multiple picks in recent years.
randolph doesnt have more potential then durant..lol..he doesnt do more then durant either
durants a better shooter
lol..you have really gone off the deep end
Those are your opinions but none are based on facts.
It is funny how people have to resort to name calling me because I disagree with them.
Only thing I ever said was that you are a hater and you know it is true. If you because of any reason attack a group just because you got upset about some other Knicks fans that makes you a hater because your purpose is not to discuss anything but take shots at Knicks fan and people who say anything good about the Knicks.
the FACT is durant is better at ALL of those things and more potential. FACTS with the proof being what they have shown from year one to now
I don't see where I backtrack but also Melo does a have a say so because he can just say that he will not resign with a team and most good teams would not do this. You don't sacrifice talent for a rental. I also said I did not know if he had a no trade clause or a trade kicker. I am sure he has a trade kicker but only a few players have no trade clauses. I still think outside of Washington in terms of young talent Knicks have enough. Why would Denver take on players like Carter on guys with longer contract that are not that good. You will tend to take a chance on youth and potential before you take Lewis who with his contract has shown nothing for Orland cept for that first year.
I even said that I doubt that could get both but it is financially possible.
Just because you don't think something will happen does not mean it will not.
I did not think Miami could get all 3 players and most people even the players themselves were a little skeptical or so they said.
What about New York makes them unable to come close to doing what Miami did.
you obviously dont know what hater means. hater is when you hate on a team by saying bad things about them with zero proof. everything ive said had proof too it.
lebron not going there joe johnson not going bosh not going. none of them went=proof
sergio is a 2nd string at best, and he proved it=proof
knicks are overrated by fans, knicks have made the playoffs once in the past 10 years two titles in there history=proof
d&*k riding would be
the knicks are gonna get this or that star, every one wants to play in ny because of the big market blah blah blah.
when some one continues to pump up a team/organization that has done NOTHING for 10years then of course any sane person would be skeptical about them getting this or that player ala clippers which is where i place the knicks as far as impact in the nba int he past 10years
And isnt calling someone a hater name calling?
And you claimn to not be a kncik fan but you always making post about the knicks in nothing but a positive way and always at the head of th eline when it comes to saying stars will come to new york
and what about any teams makes them not be able to do what miami did?..thats the point MANY TEAMS could do that not just the knicks. the knicks dont have the market cornered on that and thats my point, they arent the only team who can get cp3 or melo
Those are not facts. Those are opinions.Yall do not know the difference between fact and opinion.
If you gave both players equal chance to get a rebound Randolph would get it more times than Durant.
Durant is more a scorer who can shoot the lights up and because of his height and length he can rebound and get a few block shots.
His defense is not that great.
His handle are solid but not spectacular.
Randolph's defense is legit but he is not as consistent as Durant but that could be because he does not get the minutes or could play through mistake like Durant has been able to do for the pass few year.
I am a big fan of Durant but OKC's defense was better when he was not on the floor.
Stanford can you read
My homie is a Knicks fan and I know a lot about the team because we talk about our teams both his and mine and I followed up on them and they are looking good and finally have the money to get people.
The Lakers are stacked and keep getting people so there is not much to talk about them cept 3 peat
New Orleans is trying to save money and may or not keep Chris Paul. Business wise they would move him for younger talent but because he makes them money and is the face or the franchise they want to keep him but it will probably not happen. They will have him at least a year and a half at the most.
New York is a more fun team to talk about and since I know a lot about them, I have put like 3 or 4 threads on them but I talk about everything from Hayward to Ramon Sessions.
I am a fan of basketball and what fan does not want New York Knicks to get better. I am tired of them being terrible. Also if Knicks get Melo then you can revive the Heat versus Knicks rivalry.
Melo going to the Knicks would be great basketball. Denver needs to rebuild anyway.
Being a fan of basketball, I could care less if the Knicks get better or not, since I'm not a Knicks fan!
And how exactly is Randolph gonna blossom more in NY than he did in Golden State, he couldn't get minutes out there, and they didn't have the deepest team in the world. Maybe he's just not that good, or doesn't have the drive to be that good.
The Knicks don't have that much young talent outside of two guys, Gallo and Randolph...Chandler is obviously not wanted much elsewhere, because he's been offered already and other teams declined. People don't want Curry's ridiculous contract, and who else can they trade, Tony Douglas? There are 32 teams in the NBA, and more than half of them would give up something decent to get Melo...It will be really hilarious to see how NY fans react when they get nothing next year too, after losing out on LeBron this year...
Gasol was traded. Rasheed Wallace was traded for basically nothing. History shows that Knicks have a good chance. Also I guess I value their young guys a little difference than you but like I said, Melo has a little more control than you want to give credit. He will not go to a team he does not want to and they will not sign him for year for him to leave.
We will see. I never said it was definitely going to happen. I was saying it is not looking so crazy. He has yet to say any other team. Also I can guarantee you by the trade deadline, a lot of the Knicks young players will show they are key pieces. I have watched their players enough to see what they can do and a lot of people have been short changing them.
I am sure that Randolph will have his best season so far in his early career coming up but we will see.
I will own up if I am wrong but I am sure you will not do the same.
What name calling are you talking about you &$#%#&@! &$#%#&@!ass whore?
It is funny how my post came out before all that other stuff did.
in jersey for 2 years
b4 they move to brooklyn
what will he playin with brook lopez
not going to beat miami la boston orlando mavs
is it ironic that cp3 and melo want out at the same time
after they been talking about going to nyk at melos wedding
knowing that melos wife is pushing him to go to ny
thier probably talking about it and planning it just like bosh wade nd lbj did
melo is probly going to sign with nyk so we keep our assets
and some one said washington would be better fit
and said why go to ny where amare is going to need the ball
and your going to have a young stud a pg
so is washing thinking bout trading arenas
or is he not going to need the ball
and wudnt you want to play with a dominant big
and most liekly if melo goes to ny the best pg in the league wud be following his footsteps
if we didnt get anyone who did the nets get
you guys like to bash the knicks why not the nets nd thier new owner who predidcted a ring within 5 years wen the big fa signee was jordan farmer
and travis outlaw
the knicks got amare
they got the best sign nd trade deal of the off season with the lee deal
for azubuike turiof and randolf
and they got a nice pg
you guys said we failed no we didnt
adding to our situation were going to be a playoff team this year
why wudnt melo want to join a playoff team
so i think melo wont sign with nets
i highly doubt orlando gets him they have nothing to offer late 20's draf pick r not as highly valued as you guys think right now
i think melos wish list is
nothing has changed. Same rumors and sources other then the actual player just like with lebron,bosh,cp3, etc
hoopsworld did a great article about how knick fans , although loyal, over blow everything. when a player says they like the knicks fans think they are the only choice and the media has alot to do with it. They feed the fans with info from so called "sources" which in alot cases are people close to the player but are just there opinion and not the actual players...what is fact is melo is interested in the knicks but what is also fact is he's just as interested in a couple other teams with no one being the clear cut leader
hey where you at sheltwon...you said give you youre props when melo goes to the knicks so since he isnt going to the knicks as of now its time to eat crow
hey where you at sheltwon...you said give you youre props when melo goes to the knicks so since he isnt going to the knicks as of now its time to eat crow
He still haven't accepted the Nets' offer and now Denver is stalling. Also, Utah and Charlotte start camp soon and don't want to deal with this so they might pull out. Not making excuses, just saying what I saw/heard.