Considering what the Cavaliers are lacking and the scoring punch McLemore will provide, could he play the SF position? Gee is listed as 6''6 and McLemore is listed as 6'5. Can an inch create a giant impact or will McLemore be fine? Thoughts? I'm trying to take into account all of Cleveland's ideas but I am not sure what certain players are capable of.
Side question - does anyone think Noel may have issues playing Center because of his lack of weight? I fear perhaps PF may be even a challenge for him.
Mclemore measured 6-3.5" without shoes meaning while he'll be listed as 6-5, he'll be a short 6-5. Plus he weighs 190lbs and has never shown a real physical presence. He's clearly a sg. I can't see either cleavland or Washington taking him meaning if the magic don't pick him at 2 he could slide out of the top 3. As for Noel, yeah he'll probably be a center but I dont think he is a starter regardless of position for at least a year if not 2 seasons. Guy is being drafted on potential and has a lot of work to do before a coach trying to win can give him 24+ minutes.
So based off that who would you have the Cavaliers taking? Because by the sound of that the best thing to do with the pick is trade it and try and move down for someone else?
Its not just the inch, its the fact that Gee is 220 lbs and McLemore's a short 6'5'' and just 185 lbs...The NBA small forward is growing bigger and McLemore would absolutely not be able to guard opposing 3's
Noel, if he plays center, will have to play with a big-bodied power forward so he wont have to guard the opposing team's center...he's 25 lbs away right now
Instead of calling McLemore a short 6'5 can we just call him 6'4 since that's closer to what he really is. So no, he can't play the small forward, and same with Oladipo, I've seen people suggest he could play the 3 at the next level which is absurd.
Noel is so raw on the offensive end that I don't know if he can play the 4. He's also taller than I thought he would measure to be, but that might be a result of his flat top. Once healthy he'll add weight working with an NBA strength and conditioning team.
Noel's lack of offense only matters if his front court mate is also offensively challenged.
The difference b/t the C and PF positions is size and mass. Imagine Noel trying to defend the Howard, Cousins, M.Gasols, B.Lopez, Pekovic and Hibbert's of the league. That ain't happening any time soon, not with his poor frame.
I think Noel should be firmly slotted as a future PF.
Alright so I get what you're all saying McLemore isn't built to play the SF. Noel offensively isn't what I am worried about honestly, it is more him being pushed around by the bigger players who he just can't match up with physically. It may end up hurting his entire career since all he is suppose to do is play defense, if he can't defend, what can he do?
I have seen teams play 3 guards quite consistently in the NBA now for a while. It doesn't mean Ben McLemore is a small forward but he can play the small forward. Can he guard LeBron James? No but who can? Ben is clearly suited to play the 2 but a lineup of Irving, Waiters and McLemore could really stretch the defense. I still think Noel will be the pick for Cleveland unless they decide to attempt a trade.
Noel isn't suited to play center at 206 pounds obviously at this point. He can put weight on and have average strength for a center and still be effective banging inside. He has great instincts and off the charts quickness for a big guy. He will be a shot blocking presence and a very good pick and roll defender. I don't know how much his offensive game will improve but he shows some potential on that side as well.
I certainly wouldn't call Ben McLemore a small forward or Nerlens Noel a center but I don't think those roles are quite as important as they once were. I think being a basketball player is the most important thing. If you can get it done on the court the coaches in the NBA will find a way to utilize your skills. If you are somebody who can defend multiple positions you help create mismatches on the other end of the court as well. I have McLemore as my #1 rated player. If I were Cleveland I would have a hard time passing on him. However since there is no clear cut #1 prospect taking Noel would be the better fit and he could anchor your defense for years to come.
McLemore is a SG, clearly....no debating
Trade the pick.
What's the harm in taking Noel, someone who won't be able to be much help THIS yeah, and cashing in next year. There's no clear cut pick this year but this team is still not good enough to make it out of the bottom ten so they could fill another need next year and have elite prospects going forward while Irving is nearing his contracts end.
I've seen McLemore play all year and he is a pure shooting guard and clearly not large enough to play small forward in the NBA. At 190 lbs, he's even a little light for a SG, but he's only 5% body fat and working on his strength. He is one of the better prospects in this draft, but it's pretty clear what he is and what he isn't. I think with the current draft order he opens at #2, but Orlando could easily go with Burke at that spot and it looks likely he'll go #4 to Charlotte or #5 to Pheonix. I feel the only way he'll go #1 is if the pick gets traded.
Next to Kyrie and with the attention he draws, I think Ben's shooting could do Cleveland some good, but with the Cavs drafting Waiters last season, I just see this pick as a longshot unless there is a swap.
I don't know why Noel is considered a center by most. Marcus Camby played "power forward" for most of his career besides a stronger fellow big. Why can't Noel? Whether he's a center or power forward, his lack of scoring means the big guy next to him has to be skilled and be able to shoot.