Can the Knicks PLEASE do something?
Amare is so overrated IMO, does nothing on defense and is a black hole on offense, if he gets the ball most of the time he's going to shoot, couple that with having no center and you have a pretty bad combo that's not going to win you many games, I do like the backcourt though.
"With the Knicks and Nash talking, if the Knicks get him and give up ANY player I like? I quit. I wouldn't even talk about the Knicks AT ALL. I'd change my name to like: Fan32."
Lol, stop lying. You'd go on a temp strike, but you'd be back.
knicks are in a bad spot. They have not been doing things the way I would do them for a decade now. I have nothing against the city, fans, players, or team in general. BUt i hate seeing franchises consistently ran like crap. Thats why i enjoy watching them struggle and hope it continues.
I agree llperez, you build your team through the draft and young talent, than add that one or two veteran pieces later that bring you over the top. You don't trade all your picks away for expiring contracts so you can get Amare then if that fails have no future cause you traded all your picks away.
The Knicks looked awful. They have some talent but I just don't see them being any better then a 35 win team. Even with Amar'e, that team is just average overall.
Lol at Anthony Randolph getting this.
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To many, myself included, sports are not just a game. They are a way of life, something that affects my day-to-day mode. When the Eagles win, I usually enjoy Mondays. When the Phillies get a victory, I don't mind going to work the next day. When my teams lose, it's vice versa. Now the Sixers suck and have sucked so bad for so long that this doesn't apply to them right now, but they do make the Winter go a hellllllluva slower than if they are good.
I feel your pain Mr Knick, even if I do love watching any team in your city suffer.
they have always overpaid for players. They trade away draft picks. They bring in dantonni who is not a defensive coach. They continuously make roster moves that are strictly offensive oriented and i guess they just figure defense and rebounding and toughness will work its self out. After the isiah era ended, they said they were gonna start over and do things the right way but so far they havent.
Is going after Rip Hamilton that good of an idea? 3 years, 12 million each year for a guy who's just over 32?
I say wait until around the trade deadline again when the Melo talks start heating up again and they might seriously consider Gallo, Curry and Chandler.
Saw this article earlier today.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/no_turning_mac_r0DpIPz9IqGNzJj5bXe...
The Knicks management is CRAP!
This team a few years ago made trades to clear cap space for last offseason, which made the team CRAP for that season and when they mad those moves, all thye were thinking about was the best-case scenario and not what could happen if everything they wanted fell apart. Well, the worst-case scenario happened and now they're burned for it. Amare' is pretty good, but they wanted more than that. Most fans thought that they were going to get LeBron or another super package of players. Well, that didn'r happen and they're paying the price.
Just think about it. It's still early in the season so I can't say that the Knics won't make the playoffs, but if they don't and they get a high lottery pick, Houston can just swap picks with them. What if they somehow won the #1 pick in te lottery but because of the trade, they are forced to swap with Houston? The city of NY would be in shambles. And plus, they don't have a 1st round pick next season. I can't feel sorry for them either. This team is so poorly ran with all the traded draft picks and overpaying players, and even though Isiah is gone, this stuff is STILL going on! This stuff, like llperez said, makes me want to see the Knicks struggle, and I'm enjoying every minute of it.
Watching Nash the last couple games i can understand why Dantoni, and Stoudemire excelled with him.
Damn this Phoenix team is looking good the last couple games, the west in general.
The thing is even if the Knicks are terrible, outside of the six i cant think opf a team thats for sure better than them.
Its looking like its possible the Cavs could play the Heat in the playoffs now.
Need to start over period. Just as Washington did and Chicago did and Portland did look at OKC for god sake.
1. Hire a Coach who can be trusted to not only win games but win Championships.- Marc Jackson- he'd be a new coach but no one can doubt his mind when it comes to basketball he'd be my first choice also hire Kevin Pritchard
2. Get a Point Guard because this is becoming the trend in the NBA dominate Point Guardsin 2011 the Knicks should choose Josh Selby.
3. Keep Fields because he is solid talent also keep Randolph because he is young and may blossom unless you get an offer you cant refuse.
4. Get another pick for the 2011 draft by trading Gallo and draft Terrence Jones to add to Selby.
5. Forget Melo and STAT and think long term your fans are used to you losing so take 3 seasons to rebuild your team.
6. Target Andre Drummond in 2012 as the remaining piece to your puzzle. Imagine a line up of Selby-Fields-Jones-Randolph-Drummond full of potential and if managed correctly could make some noise in the years to come
&.Each year add a piece through FA and the draft get 2 or 3 solid vets and guys who know their roles and you have a successful franchise for many years dont just through money around because it usually doesnt end with good results because really who has lived up tp these big contracts besides Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan and Garnett
well if houston and ny dont make the playoffs, the knicks could have a lotto pick either way. and there is still hope for melo in ny. i would trade gallo, chandler, curry for melo. denver may want landry fields after his good start which would hurt. ny needs a backup point guard. all is not lost in ny.
best case starting lineup next year.
pg- raymond felton
sg- landry fields
sf- carmelo anthony
pf- amare stoudemire
c- fab melo(lotto pick)
ny does need to stop trading their picks, but if they continue to scout well and get steals like landry fields, they will be ok(although i still think they wasted the pick of andy rautins).
well if houston and ny dont make the playoffs, the knicks could have a lotto pick either way. and there is still hope for melo in ny. i would trade gallo, chandler, curry for melo. denver may want landry fields after his good start which would hurt. ny needs a backup point guard. all is not lost in ny.
best case starting lineup next year.
pg- raymond felton
sg- landry fields
sf- carmelo anthony
pf- amare stoudemire
c- fab melo(lotto pick)
ny does need to stop trading their picks, but if they continue to scout well and get steals like landry fields, they will be ok(although i still think they wasted the pick of andy rautins).
Have not posted in a long time, but can someone please tell me why people think Mark Jackson would make a good NBA head coach??? The guy has never coached on any level, yes he has a great basketball mind, but there is more to coaching than that. Also, can we please be patient with the Knicks, I know I expect better than 3-7, but this team needs time to gel, it may not be until mid-season when they unite as a team. I am not too worried....yet.
This all started when the Knick played well the first few games against the Raptors,Celtics, Blazers, Bulls and Wizards. Then they acted like they were a veteran team that could turn on the switch anytime during the game and pull out a win. Perfect example was the Philly game they sleep walked thru most of the game and lost to a bad team at home. They were blown out in Milwaukee as the Bucks played great since than they've been in games but found more ways to lose. The Warriors game was another 1 they waited till late in the 3rd qtr when down by 12 to get into the game. Against Minnesota they were embarrassed in the 2nd half by basically going through the motions in the 3rd qtr and getting killed by Love on the boards.
Obviously they aren't that good and Walsh and D'antoni deserve a lot of the blame. Walsh for his draft blunders in 08, 09 and trading away future picks for a shot at max players. The only thing bailing him out is that Houston isn't as good as expected and if Yao is hurt for a while they may struggle so the Knicks will get a decent draft pick this year. Thats another reason why I think Walsh won't trade Gallo he's already moved Jordan Hill and the 2012 draft pick so giving up on Gallo too would hurt. D'antoni was to blame for the horrific lost to the Wolves he benches Amare and the team was already short handed in the front court w/out Turiaf. D'antoni realized the Chandler at PF doesn't work so he started Mozgov back at Center for Sunday's game and Amare was back at PF. Who knew Ronny Turiaf would be missed this much.
Not sure why everyone is looking for Steve Nash for help what is he going to do get rebs, and play stellar defense no. Felton hasn't been the problem he's shot well and is 12th in the league in asts. Most of the time in the half court they just stand around and wait for Amare to make a move. That won't get it done they need a lot more movement esp. with the teams struggling shooting wise. Outside of Felton and Fields the rest of the team seems trigger happy when it comes to 3's. Not sure why Douglas is getting so many mins esp. in games he's not playing well. For some reason Bill Walker mins have been cut and now Mason has gotten some though he hasn't done anything so far. The Knicks are a pretty good free throw shooting team but don't get to the line much becaz of all those 3's taken. If you look at their team stats the 25th ranking in 3pt% and 3rd in 3's attempted is alarming they aren't the Suns but seem to think they are. Chandler is a big culprit their taking 5 a game and making just 1.5 on avg. He had this problem early last year as well. Fields has been a bright surprise from the young players but they don't really run plays for him. He gets only 7 shots a game even though he's shooting 57% and he rebounds very well. Meanwhile Douglas is taking 11 shots a game thats too much for a backup PG.
Here's what I would do with the Knicks no way would I give up Chandler, Curry and Gallo for Mello. Why becaz this team isn't going anywhere this year. Also it kills the depth which obviously is a concern on this team now. If Gallo doesn't improve I'd put him on the bench and start Chandler at SF. This gives the Knicks a better defender, rebounder, slasher, passer, shot blocker at SF. Also Chandler is shooting close to 50% on 2 pf fg's. Fields is their 2nd best Guard rite now he needs more minutes and at 6'7" needs more players run for him. Gallo with the 2nd unit wouldn't have to face the opposing teams top defenders and isn't his shortcomings on the defensive end are hidden. They also need to limit Douglas's mins and shot attempts definately, the last 3 games 2 of 16 on 3pt shots that can't continue. Oh and stay away from Mark Jackson he knows nothing about defense and there is a reason he hasn't landed a head coaching job yet. Lastly please sign a GM already, Walsh can't even walk he needs hip surgery he should really reach out to Kevin Pritchard and give him the job obviously he knows what he doing. I wouldn't mind Chris Mullin as the GM but KP would definately be 1st on that list.
Here's the lineup I'd go with
PG Felton/Douglas
SG Fields/Walker
SF Chandler/Gallo
PF Amare/Randolph
C Turiaf/Mozgov
getting mark jackson imo would be a tremendous signing as head coach baffles my mind every year when he doesnt get a job hes the exact type of ex player who makes a good coach in the mold of doc rivers not quite a super star player but a very solid smart basketball guy pritchard would be a great pick up as gm if the team doesnt want jackson as both coach and gm im not sold that trading for melo or signing him is the answer im not sure how him and stat would play together as they are both very ball dominant
they have depth even if they trade chandler and gallo. they still have azubuike, fields, and bill walker plus they would add melo. plus if u count douglas that is 5 wing players. so i dont know how they wouldnt have depth. they actually have a deep roster of atleast servicable players. they really just lack a true second option. if they got melo using chandler, gallo, curry they would have a deep team. plus like i said they will probably have a lotto team(unless they get melo sooner rather than later).
lineup with melo
pg- felton/douglas
sg- fields/ buike
sf- melo/ walker
pf- stoudemire/ randolph
c- turiaf/ mozgov
plus add a top 15 pick because it doesnt look like houston or ny will finish in the top half of the league wins wise.
I hope you aren't banking on fab melo to turn the knicks around. If so you might wanna catch one of his games. Think Daniel orton
As far as the just play Randolph. You don't just play a guy who doesn't help u win as a starter just because you THINK he's better then he really is. Why not have all the bad teams sit a starter for a young player. Let's sit Eric gordan for Willie Warren and just live through his mistakes since the clippers aren't winning anyway? All hope is not lost in NY so hopefully they don't do what you suggest and keep gunning for the 7th/8th playoff spot. It's not like they ate in the west so they have a good chance even with a not so good record. Do people still think Amare is much better in NY then David lee was? Some excuses were Amare brings intangables and leadership. Well. Neither seems to make a difference because they are still losing.
Here is the funny part of the story, as bad as the Knicks are, the pick they swapped with Houston might no ruin them. They might end up with a lottery pick anyway with which to draft the next franchise talent like Danilo Gallinari and Jordan Hill.
By the way, the Knicks miss Turiaf more than any team ever should.
Mr. Knick, don't get too down on Gallinari, he'll get back to being that 42 percent shooter we all know he is.
stanfordhoops, how dare anyone not think Anthony Randoph is an All-Star in waiting. How dare you sir.
Someone like Jared Sullinger would be a good draft pick for the Knicks but unless both they and Houston continue to struggle then he may well be gone by when the Knicks draft. The right to swap draft picks is only top one protected this year so I'd assume Houston has the right to swap after the draft lottery if both NY and Houston were in the draft lottery and NY came up at 2nd or 3rd for example.
Young Splash saying that the Knicks could maybe look at someone like Andre Drummond in 2012 is an option but the Knicks would need to be in the top 5 in the draft to retain their pick then and probably need to be top 3 to get a shot at Drummond.
Getting Kevin Pritchard in would be a great move, I've always been a fan of Pritch's and he'd be proactive in making deals for the Knicks and could use Dolan's money to buy picks like he did at Portland and thus help to acquire assets to add depth to the team or as trade bait. Donnie Walsh has health issues and his remit was to clear the cap which he did so getting a younger man in as GM and Team President elect would be a sound move.
Coach D'Antoni is 65-109 in his time at the Knicks so the pressure is slowly growing on him.
Getting Hamilton's contract would be a panic move until Melo situation is done. They need to talk to Jared Jeffriess and overpay him on a a one year deal so that he buys out of Houston for less because Houston is not playing him and he would help the D of New York. Randolph is coming off an injury and learning the new system so don't know why people are expected too much too soon. Bill Walker Needs more minutes. He tends to bring energy. Knicks maybe also need to look at Dampier because Russian guy is not cutting it defensively. Felton is not the long term answer because of his inability to run the pick and roll. This could change but who knows. Knicks do not need to make any big move save Melo or Nash. Small moves would be Jared Jeffries and Dampier.
i was just using fab melo as an example of who the knicks could get with their pick. i figured melo should be an upgrade over turiaf and mozgov.
my point is that all is not lost for the knicks. they should have a top 15 pick in the draft. they can trade some of their people for melo come deadline time and still have a decent enough roster. they really need a backup point guard tho.
and i dont even like ny, but to say they are doomed is crazy. they have pieces to get melo, a 1st round pick this year and they have scouts that can pick out players like landry fields in the second round. they need to be patient and not panic(example of panic would be trading for hamilton)
Isiah Thomas set the franchise back 10 years. But before him, Dolan had already set the Knicks back by giving a jump shooter $100 million.
Traded Camby and 1st Rd Pick (Nene) for McDyess.
Could have just drafted Amare in 2002.
Brandon Jennings was available when they wanted Curry so bad. Jordan Hill, really?
All those ridiculous contracts that Walsh had to get rid of for two or three years in HOPES of LeBron.
You get better through wise drafting. Isiah gave those away like the charitable man he is, TWO 1st rd picks for Eddy Curry.
When will it end?
Excuse for Randolph. If he's suppossed to be this future star he should be playing better. Alot of guys in his class are coming of injuries or dealing with a new system. Beasley came off injurie with a new system and still did work. A new system isn't causing him to take the same bad shots or the same bad defense he played in golden state. The FACT is he's not as good as some people try to make him out to be
I'm just tired of this. I'm tired of everything.
Can the Knicks do Something? Anything?
- Why is Wilson Chandler shooting us out of games?
- Why is Amare Stoudemire being beat by guys like Chuck Hayes?
- Can someone tell Toney Douglas: When your in a shooting slump...don't continue shooting. Why not create for something else?
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Can we also fire Mike D'Antoni? Seriously? I'm tired that he gets NO blame. Can we just fire him, bring in Marc Jackson and sign Erick Dampier? I mean, we can't get a win against anyone. Kevin Love kills us.
- With the Knicks and Nash talking, if the Knicks get him and give up ANY player I like? I quit. I wouldn't even talk about the Knicks AT ALL. I'd change my name to like: Fan32.
Here's what I suggest we do
- Fire Mike D'Antoni and Hire Mark Jackson
( Were not making the playoffs, might as well begin the new era)
- Trade Eddy Curry
( My idea? Curry and Chandler for Richard Hamilton and Jason Maxiell)
- Sign Erick Dampier
( Timofey has looked alright but he's just not ready)
- Slow the offense down
( The Knicks are playing 10 guys now but lets stop the run and gun stuff)
My ideal lineup
Felton- Hamilton- Gallinari ( Who needs to go as well)- Stoudemire- Turiaf
Chandler- Douglas- Daimper- Fields ( I'm super excited we got him) - Azu