[OhCanada-Participant]

As far as an NBA PG is concerned Murrays assist percentage is too low when comparing it to his usage ratio. His court vision and playmaking abillity is in question but when you dig a little bit deeper some indicators present themselves as to whether or not he will be a successful PG and if his lack of productivity as a playmaker was due to his lack of skill or role implemented by Calipari.

Calipari has done this before and I will use the John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Demarcus Cousins to prove I believe Calipari has masked his playmaking abilities the same way he did to Bledsoe who is now averaging 5-6 assists per game. I am obviously naturally in favor of Murray so for this study I have to leave all naturally biased opinions at the door so I will compare his stats and situation with his teammates Ulis and Briscoe and former Kentucky players.

First of all everyone needs to understand Murrays position on the 15-16 Wildcats Roster. Murray was usually responsible for receiving the initial inbound and dribbling the ball up the court due to his size and strength. From there he would allow Ulis or Briscoe to set the half court offense. Murray has the highest usage ratio on the Wildcats at 27.1%. Murrays assist percentage is low at just 12.1 % but this in direct correlation to Tyler’s usage and assist percentage.

When comparing Murray to other gaurds he compares to Buddy Hield who’s usage percentage was 30% and assist ratio was 12.7%. Dejaunte Murray has a usage % of 26% and an assist ratio of 25%. Now the thing is Murray was playing with Ulis and Briscoe and those two were the designated gaurds within the lineup. Murray played more of a third gaurd or wing who fed off of them. Briscoe and Ulis combined for 51% assist ratio on Kentucky’s offense and Briscoe played 32-mpg. Somebody had to finish and quite frankly Briscoe shot atrociously all year.

Murray started to understand his role as conference play began and him and Ulis formed a dynamic duo from there on out. Calipari gave the keys to the offense to Ulis seeing his assist ratio go up to 40% in conference play (34% season long). Murrays PPG in conference play was 22.4 and points per 100 possessions a whopping 37.1! Throughout the year it was 20ppg and 33.3 per 100. Also in conference play his assist ratio went down to 10%. This shows that Murray allowed himself to fully become the role of a finisher and except that and make the most of it rather than forcing the issue and instead of deferring to Ulis who was ultimately the better creator or trying to force the issue he understood how he could help the team and make the offence thrive.

Calipari has done this before with Wall and Bledsoe the difference being Wall and Bledsoe played in a two gaurd lineup and Bledsoe was relied on as a secondary shot creator not quite a finisher and quite frankly neither Wall or Bledsoe had the ball IQ of Ulis and Murray so the offence resulted in more turnovers. Wall and Bledsoe relied on talent and athleticism which Ulis and Murray cannot rival. Eric played with Darius Miller and Deandre Liggins who were both 3 and D guys with next to no shot creating abillity. Bledsoe still only averaged 2.9 assists in this role as compared to Murrays 2.0 assists. Also Bledsoe had a 16% assist ratio and a 26% turnover ratio compared to Murrays 12% assist ratio and 12% turnover ratio. Although the point was to mask the turnovers and in Murrays case it worked.

My conclusion is that Murray is not quite a shot creator like Ulis or Wall but he also doesn’t force the issue like Bledsoe. He takes what the defence gives him and he provides what his teammates need from him. He is a combo gaurd in every right of the sence and a great selfless team player that can star in either role. I really think the Chauncey Billups is a good comparison in regards to how he would run an offence. He should be a great

[Bankroll PJParticipant]

 I like the Chauncey Billups comparison. Hopefully it doesn’t take as long for Murray to hit his stride as it did with Billups, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.  It usually takes a little longer for true combo guards to find their niche in the league

[Bankroll PJParticipant]

 I like the Chauncey Billups comparison. Hopefully it doesn’t take as long for Murray to hit his stride as it did with Billups, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.  It usually takes a little longer for true combo guards to find their niche in the league

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 But Murray Really struggled as the PG at UK early this Season………. So much so that Calipari put Ulis in charge……. & Murray Flourished as the SG…… & the Team took off……..

I think Murray Can play Some PG……. & clearly he would not be Mocked so high if NBA scouts did not think he could eventually play PG…….

But Drafting That high (top 5 – 8)……. Teams are looking for future Star……. I Luv Jamal Murray as a 2 guard W/ outstanding passing skills……. & I think he can play Some PG…….

But I don’t think I could plug him in as my Team’s starting PG on day 1 or even year 1……. Have a #1 guy at PG, a Veteran……… & let Murray develop as a Combo guard & see how he grows into the role…….

Similar to what Atlanta is doing w/ Teague & Schroeder …… & what the Lakers seem to be doing w/ Clarkson & D. Russell…….

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Murray didn’t necessarily struggle as a PG. His turnover ratio was not high and he still scored at a high rate. The team has no finishers so he did what was necessary for his team to generate points.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Murray didn’t necessarily struggle as a PG. His turnover ratio was not high and he still scored at a high rate. The team has no finishers so he did what was necessary for his team to generate points.

[losnopesosParticipant]

 Murray never played the point at UK, that position was Ulis’ as soon as the buzzer sounded in the Wisconsin game the year before.

[losnopesosParticipant]

 Murray never played the point at UK, that position was Ulis’ as soon as the buzzer sounded in the Wisconsin game the year before.

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 But Murray Really struggled as the PG at UK early this Season………. So much so that Calipari put Ulis in charge……. & Murray Flourished as the SG…… & the Team took off……..

I think Murray Can play Some PG……. & clearly he would not be Mocked so high if NBA scouts did not think he could eventually play PG…….

But Drafting That high (top 5 – 8)……. Teams are looking for future Star……. I Luv Jamal Murray as a 2 guard W/ outstanding passing skills……. & I think he can play Some PG…….

But I don’t think I could plug him in as my Team’s starting PG on day 1 or even year 1……. Have a #1 guy at PG, a Veteran……… & let Murray develop as a Combo guard & see how he grows into the role…….

Similar to what Atlanta is doing w/ Teague & Schroeder …… & what the Lakers seem to be doing w/ Clarkson & D. Russell…….

 

 

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I don’t really see the Billops comparison or him being a high usage point guard. I can see him being a point guard on the Bucks because they have lots of ball handlers in Giannis, Khris Middleton, and sometime Jabari Parker to bring the ball up the court. I see him as a better version of OJ Mayo/ poor mans Brandon Roy.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 I don’t really see the Billops comparison or him being a high usage point guard. I can see him being a point guard on the Bucks because they have lots of ball handlers in Giannis, Khris Middleton, and sometime Jabari Parker to bring the ball up the court. I see him as a better version of OJ Mayo/ poor mans Brandon Roy.

[JoeWolf1]

When I look at whether a guy can play point at the next level, I see how comfortable he is running a pick and roll and his decision making in half court sets. I just see Murray as too much of a shooter/scorer who can take advantage of spacing playing off the ball to think he’ll play the majority of his minutes in an NBA uniform at the 1, like Billups.

At 6’5” in shoes, with a 6’7” wingspan and a strong 200 pounds, I think he’d provide an NBA team the most value using his playmaking ability off the ball, complimentary to his shot playing as a 2 guard. I just feel a versatile two guard, who may not be all of 6’6” would be of more value than Murray playing slightly out of position. Now, I think some points you brought up are valid, Jamaal could definitely play short portions of the game at the 1 if needed, but wouldn’t you rather run him off screens, and have him space the floor?

People get a little too fixated about ideal positional size. Bradley Beal is almost the exact same size as Murray. 6’4” in shoes, with a 6’8” wingspan and a similar build. He’s been just fine manning the two spot in the NBA.

I don’t think it’s what Jamaal can or can’t do, but where would he help your team most. Is he capable of transitioning to a PG over time? Probably, but wouldn’t you rather use him where he could help your team most? I like him too. I have him 4th on my Big Board, so I’m sold on him as a prospect, I just don’t think the lure of multi-positionalism (I’m coining that word by the way) is enough to want to make him transition to a PG. There’s been plenty of NBA two’s who’ve had great success despite not being 6’6”, and which is more valuable, a SG who can dish out 3 or 4 assists, or a PG that can dish out 5 or 6? One is really good for a position, and one is pretty average.

[JoeWolf1]

When I look at whether a guy can play point at the next level, I see how comfortable he is running a pick and roll and his decision making in half court sets. I just see Murray as too much of a shooter/scorer who can take advantage of spacing playing off the ball to think he’ll play the majority of his minutes in an NBA uniform at the 1, like Billups.

At 6’5” in shoes, with a 6’7” wingspan and a strong 200 pounds, I think he’d provide an NBA team the most value using his playmaking ability off the ball, complimentary to his shot playing as a 2 guard. I just feel a versatile two guard, who may not be all of 6’6” would be of more value than Murray playing slightly out of position. Now, I think some points you brought up are valid, Jamaal could definitely play short portions of the game at the 1 if needed, but wouldn’t you rather run him off screens, and have him space the floor?

People get a little too fixated about ideal positional size. Bradley Beal is almost the exact same size as Murray. 6’4” in shoes, with a 6’8” wingspan and a similar build. He’s been just fine manning the two spot in the NBA.

I don’t think it’s what Jamaal can or can’t do, but where would he help your team most. Is he capable of transitioning to a PG over time? Probably, but wouldn’t you rather use him where he could help your team most? I like him too. I have him 4th on my Big Board, so I’m sold on him as a prospect, I just don’t think the lure of multi-positionalism (I’m coining that word by the way) is enough to want to make him transition to a PG. There’s been plenty of NBA two’s who’ve had great success despite not being 6’6”, and which is more valuable, a SG who can dish out 3 or 4 assists, or a PG that can dish out 5 or 6? One is really good for a position, and one is pretty average.

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Who cares if he can bring the ball up the court? It takes 6 dribbles and NBA guys rarely press. JoeWolf nailed it. 

I personally don’t care if he’s listed at PG or SG, can he make plays for his teammates? We know he can shoot. NBA teams will try to run him off that line and when that happens, can he break help defenses down and make the right decisions/get teammates good shots? 

That’s what I want in a poing guard. He doesn’t have to monopolize the ball in the halfcourt, which would boost his value especially if he can play point, but can he facilitate and get other guys shots? 

He didn’t at Kentucky. He didn’t really have to at Kentucky. That’s the beauty of Kentucky, and the curse of Kentucky. It can mask a guy’s weakness, or hide his potential strengths. We just don’t know because he hasn’t shown he can or can’t do it. 

The other side of this of course is can he defend? Everyone always talks about "oh he’s too slow to check Westbrook/Lillard/Wall etc.". I get that. Nobody really guards those guys. But can he play competant defense? Can he get through screens, because he’ll get screened 100 times a game if he’s checking opposing point guards. Can he keep up with guys? That part is never talked about. 

I don’t really view him as a point guard at this point, which isn’t a knock. If he’s a 2-guard, who can be a secondary ball handler, great. Nothing wrong with that. The league doens’t have enough SGs who can play that way. It’s a lot of either stand-still "3 and D" guys or Monta Ellis types who need the ball in their hands. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Who cares if he can bring the ball up the court? It takes 6 dribbles and NBA guys rarely press. JoeWolf nailed it. 

I personally don’t care if he’s listed at PG or SG, can he make plays for his teammates? We know he can shoot. NBA teams will try to run him off that line and when that happens, can he break help defenses down and make the right decisions/get teammates good shots? 

That’s what I want in a poing guard. He doesn’t have to monopolize the ball in the halfcourt, which would boost his value especially if he can play point, but can he facilitate and get other guys shots? 

He didn’t at Kentucky. He didn’t really have to at Kentucky. That’s the beauty of Kentucky, and the curse of Kentucky. It can mask a guy’s weakness, or hide his potential strengths. We just don’t know because he hasn’t shown he can or can’t do it. 

The other side of this of course is can he defend? Everyone always talks about "oh he’s too slow to check Westbrook/Lillard/Wall etc.". I get that. Nobody really guards those guys. But can he play competant defense? Can he get through screens, because he’ll get screened 100 times a game if he’s checking opposing point guards. Can he keep up with guys? That part is never talked about. 

I don’t really view him as a point guard at this point, which isn’t a knock. If he’s a 2-guard, who can be a secondary ball handler, great. Nothing wrong with that. The league doens’t have enough SGs who can play that way. It’s a lot of either stand-still "3 and D" guys or Monta Ellis types who need the ball in their hands. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 University of Kentucky & why he was moved out of that role…… 

http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/3/3/11156100/jamal-murray-shooting-guard-philadelphia-76ers-kentucky 

Excellent article complete w/ Video breakdown……..

Mind you…… & this is FULL Disclosure……. I fell in Major LIKE w/ Murray after watching him play the PG role for Team Canada…….. I admit that I largely ignored the Level of Competition b/c like All fans ……. I WANTED to fall in Like w/ him……….

Anyway, cut & paste if you want to check out the Article….. It was Very fair & Very complimentary of Murray……. but Brutally Honest about JM’s weaknesses playing the PG spot against High Level compeition……..

 In short Jamal Murray’s Assist-to-Turn Over Ratio was "Well Below 1" in December at UK……. 18 Turn Overs to 12 Assists……. And Murray lack the Athleticism to "turn the corner" against defenders…….

 If you want to see what convinced Coach Cal to Re-Insert Tyler Ulis as PG & Primary "Creator" for UK…….. Check out Kentucky’s early season Game against In State Rival Louisville……….. Rick Pitino’s Pressure Defense "completely Overwhelmed" Murray…….

 This is No knock on Murray……. Like manny of us in Life…… When miscast in Role for which one is Not Suited…… He struggled…….. When put in the Off Ball position of SG………… To Which Murray’s Skill set is perfectly suited……… JM Flourished……

 He IS young however, & I believe he Can develop…… We’ll have to wait & see……… but he Definitely DID struggle at PG……. & switching to "Off Ball" SG was NOT a selfless move on his part to help the Team…….. Louisville Nuked JM & Coach Cal took the Keys to the UK car away………

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

Nice find with that article it displays alot of things I failed to point out like the Louisville game. Although there are some huge facts left out.

Ulis played 37-mpg consistently all year for Kentucky. Briscoe started every game and played above 30-mpg all year. Murray played 35-mpg all year. These are 40 minute games so more often than not these three were on the court together for most of the year. If Murray were to start as a PG in the NBA it is highly unlikely he would play with two pointgaurds that lack the abillity to knockdown shots off the ball and are under the 6’2. Also Labissiere had no understanding of how to set picks for players running the P&R and running through screens.

Murray did start the season with 12 assists and 18 turnovers but how did his co-gaurds fair. Briscoe made 1 of 9 threes in those 5 games and Ulis made 3 of 19 threes for 11% and 16%. Labissiere provided no inside scoring being manhandled download and Calipari didn’t use him as a spacer. This type of play allowed teams to additionally pressure Murray a freshman in his very first 5 games.

The NBA will be a much different ball game. The bigs will be able to set picks, the other gaurd/gaurds/wing/wings will likely be able to run screens knockdown shots and cut to the basket much better allowing Murray to make more smart decisions and read the game better.

I do agree to an extent. With the way the league is today and the amount of 2 gaurd lineupes there are Murray would likely be best suited as a combo gaurd starting at SG with another PG or coming off the bench to relieve the starting PG or SG. I just believe he is not strictly a SG and could thrive at PG next to a Klay Thompson, Demar Derozan, Jimmy Butler, or even Bradley Beal type player as your 1 and 2.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Nice find with that article it displays alot of things I failed to point out like the Louisville game. Although there are some huge facts left out.

Ulis played 37-mpg consistently all year for Kentucky. Briscoe started every game and played above 30-mpg all year. Murray played 35-mpg all year. These are 40 minute games so more often than not these three were on the court together for most of the year. If Murray were to start as a PG in the NBA it is highly unlikely he would play with two pointgaurds that lack the abillity to knockdown shots off the ball and are under the 6’2. Also Labissiere had no understanding of how to set picks for players running the P&R and running through screens.

Murray did start the season with 12 assists and 18 turnovers but how did his co-gaurds fair. Briscoe made 1 of 9 threes in those 5 games and Ulis made 3 of 19 threes for 11% and 16%. Labissiere provided no inside scoring being manhandled download and Calipari didn’t use him as a spacer. This type of play allowed teams to additionally pressure Murray a freshman in his very first 5 games.

The NBA will be a much different ball game. The bigs will be able to set picks, the other gaurd/gaurds/wing/wings will likely be able to run screens knockdown shots and cut to the basket much better allowing Murray to make more smart decisions and read the game better.

I do agree to an extent. With the way the league is today and the amount of 2 gaurd lineupes there are Murray would likely be best suited as a combo gaurd starting at SG with another PG or coming off the bench to relieve the starting PG or SG. I just believe he is not strictly a SG and could thrive at PG next to a Klay Thompson, Demar Derozan, Jimmy Butler, or even Bradley Beal type player as your 1 and 2.

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 University of Kentucky & why he was moved out of that role…… 

http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/3/3/11156100/jamal-murray-shooting-guard-philadelphia-76ers-kentucky 

Excellent article complete w/ Video breakdown……..

Mind you…… & this is FULL Disclosure……. I fell in Major LIKE w/ Murray after watching him play the PG role for Team Canada…….. I admit that I largely ignored the Level of Competition b/c like All fans ……. I WANTED to fall in Like w/ him……….

Anyway, cut & paste if you want to check out the Article….. It was Very fair & Very complimentary of Murray……. but Brutally Honest about JM’s weaknesses playing the PG spot against High Level compeition……..

 In short Jamal Murray’s Assist-to-Turn Over Ratio was "Well Below 1" in December at UK……. 18 Turn Overs to 12 Assists……. And Murray lack the Athleticism to "turn the corner" against defenders…….

 If you want to see what convinced Coach Cal to Re-Insert Tyler Ulis as PG & Primary "Creator" for UK…….. Check out Kentucky’s early season Game against In State Rival Louisville……….. Rick Pitino’s Pressure Defense "completely Overwhelmed" Murray…….

 This is No knock on Murray……. Like manny of us in Life…… When miscast in Role for which one is Not Suited…… He struggled…….. When put in the Off Ball position of SG………… To Which Murray’s Skill set is perfectly suited……… JM Flourished……

 He IS young however, & I believe he Can develop…… We’ll have to wait & see……… but he Definitely DID struggle at PG……. & switching to "Off Ball" SG was NOT a selfless move on his part to help the Team…….. Louisville Nuked JM & Coach Cal took the Keys to the UK car away………

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TheWhiteLionParticipant]

 Those are some great points made above and i agree. I dont see him as a prototypical 1 or 2 but i feel like he can develop and play both positions if needed. I feel like the timberwolves would be a nice fit for him. So lavine, rubio, wiggins, and maybe even shabazz can help out with the ball. Plus they are a good youjg team and can grow together. They run and run and run and with a guy that can shoot that can space the floor for wiggins, lavine, and rubio to drive. That would really help them as a team. They would be SCARY

[TheWhiteLionParticipant]

 Those are some great points made above and i agree. I dont see him as a prototypical 1 or 2 but i feel like he can develop and play both positions if needed. I feel like the timberwolves would be a nice fit for him. So lavine, rubio, wiggins, and maybe even shabazz can help out with the ball. Plus they are a good youjg team and can grow together. They run and run and run and with a guy that can shoot that can space the floor for wiggins, lavine, and rubio to drive. That would really help them as a team. They would be SCARY

[TheWhiteLionParticipant]

 He reminds me of james harden. Except he doesnt turn the ball over as much, isnt AS MUCH of a scorer, and he plays much better defense than harden

[TheWhiteLionParticipant]

 He reminds me of james harden. Except he doesnt turn the ball over as much, isnt AS MUCH of a scorer, and he plays much better defense than harden

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 I just wanted to share it w/ you guys & get your thoughts…….. I did not want that to come off like I was countering any one person……. Many posts …. Including Me & Mine……. had No idea Murray had these weaknesses at UK………. But he’s a Developing 18 y/o kid…….. These are Fixable…….. but they Are there……

everything that guy who wrote that break down of Murray were things I had No idea of ……. & even as I read them I was disagreeing w/ the guy until he started using video to break it down……

I agree w/ a Lot of Canada’s points…….. the NBA IS a Much different league than the NCAA…….. Many of JM’s skills Are Transferrable to the NBA game………….

  I luv Murray’s maturity & leadership…… & I think those traits make him a player who will commit to Development ……. & focus on strengthening his weaknesses……

Murray has got the Raw skills to be a Great player…….. He’s a very Unselfish player……. & those Natural Leadership traits can Not be taught…….. However, you CAN teach a guy how to run a better Pick & Roll……

 

 

 

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 I just wanted to share it w/ you guys & get your thoughts…….. I did not want that to come off like I was countering any one person……. Many posts …. Including Me & Mine……. had No idea Murray had these weaknesses at UK………. But he’s a Developing 18 y/o kid…….. These are Fixable…….. but they Are there……

everything that guy who wrote that break down of Murray were things I had No idea of ……. & even as I read them I was disagreeing w/ the guy until he started using video to break it down……

I agree w/ a Lot of Canada’s points…….. the NBA IS a Much different league than the NCAA…….. Many of JM’s skills Are Transferrable to the NBA game………….

  I luv Murray’s maturity & leadership…… & I think those traits make him a player who will commit to Development ……. & focus on strengthening his weaknesses……

Murray has got the Raw skills to be a Great player…….. He’s a very Unselfish player……. & those Natural Leadership traits can Not be taught…….. However, you CAN teach a guy how to run a better Pick & Roll……

 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 @OhCanada

How many Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal, DeMar Derozan and Jimmy Butler type SGs are there? That’s 4 of the 5 best SGs in the league. 

I could get 5 assists a night passing to those guys. Those jobs are kind of filled at the moment though. 

Can Murray run a team? Can he get guys shots? He was used as a floor-spacer this year at Kentucky, he ran off screens and was great in that role. If he can do that, plus do all the things PGs do nowadays, he’s a great prospect. 

How well does he shoot off the dribble? His release is low and his shot isn’t that quick…is he goin to be able to get shots off against NBA PGs? Can he stay in front of NBA PGs? Can he work around screens, because if he’s chekcing an NBA PG, he’s getting screened every time down the floor. 

These are legit questions about Murray. I’d consider taking him as high as 4 right now based on his year at Kentucky and what he’s shown playing with Canada. But that doesn’t mean he’s a gret PG prospect. If he can PG things, playing SG, who would say no to that?

 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 @OhCanada

How many Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal, DeMar Derozan and Jimmy Butler type SGs are there? That’s 4 of the 5 best SGs in the league. 

I could get 5 assists a night passing to those guys. Those jobs are kind of filled at the moment though. 

Can Murray run a team? Can he get guys shots? He was used as a floor-spacer this year at Kentucky, he ran off screens and was great in that role. If he can do that, plus do all the things PGs do nowadays, he’s a great prospect. 

How well does he shoot off the dribble? His release is low and his shot isn’t that quick…is he goin to be able to get shots off against NBA PGs? Can he stay in front of NBA PGs? Can he work around screens, because if he’s chekcing an NBA PG, he’s getting screened every time down the floor. 

These are legit questions about Murray. I’d consider taking him as high as 4 right now based on his year at Kentucky and what he’s shown playing with Canada. But that doesn’t mean he’s a gret PG prospect. If he can PG things, playing SG, who would say no to that?

 

 

 

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 No, not a point guard.

He could play the spot if there is a passer at forward or center.  High lotto teams don’t have that setup, so he will be s hooting guard, most likely.

If his team had a Gasol, Ben Simmons, LeBron, D Green, Noah, Batum, Murray would be great and the team would play well.

As a shooting point guard, on a bad team, he might struggle.  As a Minnesota pick, if they trade Rubio and go with Murray and LaVine, it would have potential but may not have enough passing.  

 

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 No, not a point guard.

He could play the spot if there is a passer at forward or center.  High lotto teams don’t have that setup, so he will be s hooting guard, most likely.

If his team had a Gasol, Ben Simmons, LeBron, D Green, Noah, Batum, Murray would be great and the team would play well.

As a shooting point guard, on a bad team, he might struggle.  As a Minnesota pick, if they trade Rubio and go with Murray and LaVine, it would have potential but may not have enough passing.  

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 76ers get #1 pick and they get the Lakers #4 pick… Easily have both Murray, and Simmons.

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 76ers get #1 pick and they get the Lakers #4 pick… Easily have both Murray, and Simmons.

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Lavine isn’t a PG. He might be for a good summer pro-am team. Not an NBA team. 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Lavine isn’t a PG. He might be for a good summer pro-am team. Not an NBA team. 

[OhCanada-Participant]

Good time to bump this.

[armchairgmParticipant]

None of those are my comments, but I will be first to admit I thought Murray was going to be more of a 6th man combo guard type scorer off the bench in the mold of Ben Gordon when he came out

[OhCanada-Participant]

Averaged 10 assists per game in the Finals.

[HitsterParticipant]

Jokic has been their main ball handler but Murray can certainly run the plays when required and puts up good numbers across all columns and has a title to his name. Surely he’ll be an All Star too in next couple of seasons too but having a title is probably more important.

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