I need a link or something because that's unbelievable to me.
Can u show me a link of the rules?
Go to the NCAA page. I'm
sure it's there somewhere. I know from
playing college basketball. And from
my brother before me
Fab Melo is listed on this site's top ten mock draft and once he comes to the NCAA his game will come under greater scrutiny so he could fall or rise up the draft. I have Barnes as my long term number one with Kanter then Perry Jones but Melo if he has a good season could push Kanter to be the top big man drafted and thus get into the top 5 and maybe the top 3.
Jared Sullinger is also in the big man mix in the top 10 but Melo if he can have a season comparable to Jared could get drafted ahead of him given his extra size. Also if Melo has very impressive wingspan and vertical measurements then GM's always lke big men they can mould but less so in recent drafts.
I don't really worry about Melo's offensive game yet as his value will be on defence as a shot changer and if you have a young big with good defence then offence is a bonus and can be worked on.
If Cleveland are in the lottery then teaming up with Varejao and Hickson could be a good place for him to be drafted.
Knicksboy is an unreliable source anyways, like come on youre actaully gonna believe him...He is obviously not tellingh the truth about being at the practices because Bohiem would never do something like that ARAN PLZ DELETE THIS THREAD!
lol Destroy the "evidence"!!
Practices haven't even started yet, the only thing that is going on is conditioning and work outs, but nothing basketball related is allowed until October 15th, or somewhere around that time. Usually 1 month before the team's first game is when practice officially begins.
Yep. And the coach isn't allowed to be there. So either Jimmy b is breaking rules or........
Why does the NCAA not allow that, I don't understand the point of the rule. Quincey could you explain it, thanks.
because the NCAA Is dumb. Naw but seriouly I think it's because they want the players to concentrate on school first because they know practice and games will cut into study/school time
Yeah that does make sense regarding school and studies as well as getting acclimated (more so for freshman) to college life.
Joseph is a very good passer and ball-handler too. You'll see it this season. He's more than just a versatile defender. How can you even know if he's a versatile defender if he plays in a 2-3 zone?
I said he has the looks of being a versatile defender because of his length and athleticism. And actually, he's not a good ball handler. That is one of his weaknesses.
Learned my lesson today...no lying.
"And actually, he's not a good ball handler. That is one of his weaknesses."
You seriously don't know what you're talking about man...
You don't. First you say he's a good passer, but he averages about 1.7 apg in about 30 minutes. You say he's a good passer, correct? So why does he average so little assist? It's because he doesn't have the ability to put the ball on the floor and make plays for his teammates. Right now, he's a little bit of a tweener because of his ball handling. If his ball handling really was good he'd be higher on mocks because he has a solid mid range shot, is athletic and plays hard. Obviously this is holding him back from being a top-15 pick.
You don't measure passing skills for a SF like Joseph purely based on assists, especially who saw him minutes reduced from playing behind a guy who was 3rd in the N.P.O.Y voting at his natural position, and playing behind a big bodied and reasonably productive PF in Rick Jackson at the only other position he played last season . He's a good passer and ball-handler. Nothing about his ball-handling and passing are below average, but hey, you'll see with the added responsiblily he'll shoulder next season.
Gordon Hayward is a good passer, and his assist numbers were eerily similar to the ones Kris Joseph put up for example. Anyone who watches Syracuse play will tell you Joseph is a point-forward with solid handles and passing ability. And what does it matter that he's not ranked as a top 15 pick in SEPTEMBER? Lol, just wait until the end of the season. Alot of things about Joseph's game will come to light and he will be mentioned as a lotto prospect
Yeah, you're right about the mock thing. From what I've seen though, his handles are below average. I never really paid attention to his passing, so I'll take your word for it.
Weaknesses: Kris is very raw, and his offensive game is rather limited ... He lacks any range on his jump shot- his shooting lacks any type of consistency or fluidity ... He has a poor handle of the basketball, and tends to be out of control too frequently ... Low basketball IQ, looks more like a great athlete playing basketball rather than a basketball player who's an athlete... Right now his skill set is too limited to have any impact at the next level, however, with an improved outside game, he could turn into an intriguing prospect
Jonathan Wasserman 2/17/09
I saw where they had that too.....I don't agree with that poor handle part at all. I really don't see how that could be said about him. There is literally nothing poor about his ball-handling. Like seriously.
That scouting report was from over a year ago. Joseph's game has developed a lot since then. The dates on the scouting reports are usually dated, so they are not reliable at times.
I've never really paid alot of attention to him but from what I've read he's gonna be a star this year. I watched vise games but he was very memorable. Other then being a good athlete. Now he will be the man so we will see just how good he is
You guys are actually putting Fab Melo ahead of Brandon Knight..
I know there not in the same position, but come on now.
If Epke Udoh can get top 10, then he can also.
He has a nice big body, and is a nice low post scorer... In high school... but really, you see his upside as Andrew Bynum?
Maybe its because I think every year theres a guy who's 6'11-7'0 who can Block shots and clog the lane and gets really overrated and ends up being a high pick, and doesn't even produce.
Eh, itll be interesting.
As far as top 3.. No.
There are way better prospects than him.
Barnes, Irving, Knight, Selby, and even C.J. Leslie.
I think the number of bigmen is going to be very weak this year, and he'll be a high pick regardless though.
Melo isn't as good as the Baylor big man but he could be as good or better. Right now he isn't though
Who knows if he even comes out this season...
Unless he has a really bad season he is coming out. The guy is a 20 year old freshman, which is 2 years older than the rest of his class. I am sure of it.
Fab Melo will also learn a load playing under a Coach Boeheim who has said as quoted on Fab’s profile on this site that he may have a freshman year similar to what Thabeet had at UConn in 2006-07. Fab has the size to compete inside and has apparently dropped 30lbs or so to get into better shape over the last year or so.
If we consider Fab as a top 3 candidate for next year then it will be tough but if he has a decent rookie year then this site has him in their 2011 mock draft at 7 so it shows how highly they rate him. But next year we have Barnes and Jones who currently seem consensus top and top 3 pick respectively Kanter will surely develop under Coach Cal and like Fab coming to the NCAA will raise his profile much more with NBA scouts and if they like what they see then he will be a top 5 challenger.
Recently teams have started to favour PG’s in the dtraft and if Coach K can develop Kyrie Irving then he is a top 5 challenger.
Personally I’ve always been a fan of Motiejunas who could be the sort of player that a GM may take a flyer on if he had a good workout and they think he could have hidden upside. I think Motiejunas will go top 10 whenever he declares and if he impresses then he can go top 5 or better.
Fab may not be a top 3 pick in 2011 but if he returned and had another year a Syracuse then he could be a legit top 3 pick in 2012 as he would potentially be much more NBA ready then.
Also when teams are looking at the draft they often look for players to build a team around and however good some of these prospects are they may be more .
Don't agree that teams have fabored pg in the draft. It just so happen that there were alot of good pg in the draft two seasons ago. Which ever position has thr most depth tends to get the most drafted on any given year. The talk is the 2012 draft will be good for teams wanting bigs
I watched him play AAU last summer and I sat right behind Boeheim and Mike Hopkins.....he had no clue what to do or where to go when they slapped a zone on him.......he can be a top 5 pick if he stays 2 years.....he has a lot to learn but he can definitely get the coaching he needs at SU.....
Told you this guy is very raw and isnt ready. He looks lost out there and is very very foul prone....lmao@ a superskilled dexter pittman