Bynum to Cavs
Chris Broussard just announced that Bynum has decided to sign with Cleveland.
Bright future for this team. What's their ceiling this season?
Bright future for this team with or without Bynum. This years success depends on his health.
I was suprised that he didn't sign with the Mavs. After all they've been pretty desperate to get SOMEONE to pair with Dirk after missing out on Deron, Dwight, CP3, J-Smoove, Iggy, Pekovic, Kirilenko, Lebron, Bosh, Duncan, Ginobili, Brewer, Mozgov, Knight, Calderon, Ellis, Jennings, Irving, Stiemsma, Wright, Holiday, Noel, Carter-Williams, Adetokounbo, Chinmelu Elonu, Goudelock, Scalabrine, Cardinal, Michael Jordan, my grandmother, Tiger Woods, Bargnani…the list goes on and on.
With a healthy Bynum could be anywhere from 3 to 5, probably a 7 or 8 without him.
Low risk move. 1yr $12 million with team option for second year. This allows them to have cap space for Lebron next off-season if Bynum doesn't pan out.
Bynum if healthy is a perfect fit next to Anthony Bennet as he can protect the rim and let Bennett play outside like he likes to do.
Plus only 6 million guaranteed in both years...he most likely gets more the more games he plays. What a steal in my opinion 6 million is worth the risk for a potential top 3 center in the nba. Huge steal if he can stay healthy considering centers get overpaid like crazy. 12 million for a potential top 3 center is a huge steal. Great move by the Cavs.
Low risk signing given his contract but I do wonder how they look to fit in Bennett and Thompson around Bynum plus if Varejao returns sound will the Zeller there see any minutes.
So happy. Great move. We have heaps of cash to splash this year. I heard there are incentives that say if he doesn't meet then he will only get paid 6 mil or something. I am over the lottery and cannot wait to see cavs play in the post season. Bring on the cavs push to play playoffs!!
I think Bynum is a great pick up for the Cavs. What do they have to lose? They were in no position to win a championship anyway. So for their situation, he's definitely low risk, high reward. He's an all star, double double guy with a huge body. They now have a true Center and one of the top 3 in the game when Healthy. This team can def be a playoff team this year if Bynum plays like he's capable of. The way I see it, Kyrie and Bynum will be one of the top duos for years to come.
Does Thompson go back to the bench now? Varejao gets moved, starts at PF, or become back up Center?
Mike Brown and Bynum reunite!
I'd assume Thompson stays as PF with Bennett from the bench initially unless they do now decide to try and turn Bennett into a SF more. As regards Varejao he has a ner $10 million team option for 2014-15 which the Cavs could really cash in on via a trade, so I guess he stays until at least deadline day or even draft day next year.
Sounds like a great deal. Low risk, high reward. Similar structure to what B.Roy had last yr..
Incentive laden contracts should be the standard IMO, but that'll never happen.
Great move for the Cavs.
Wow, the Cavs are pretty much a lock to the playoffs now. I believe this signing solidifies that they should have drafted Otto Porter instead of Bennett because now they are stacked with 4 bigs that are either starters right now or could be starters in 3 years time while they have no true small forward.
The East is looking to be stacking up very well, with title contenders like the Heat, Bulls, Pacers, Nets, and Knicks; solid teams like the Hawks, Raptors, Pistons, and up-and-comers like the Cavs, Wizards, and maybe even the Bobcats. It's starting to look very tough.
Were basically 2 weeks removed from the draft, Bennetts role doesn't change, he'll play like 30 minutes per game split at SF and PF for the first few months and they'll take a look to see whats up. If the cavs signed someone like lets say Al Jefferson, then Porter would have been the more logical pick, but Bynum is a Center, the only "center" the cavs currently have on the roster is Zeller, both TT and Varejao are natural PF who have been forced into the Center role.
I dig on the Cavs and Bynum. But you can't get to hyped over this signing...
Bynum has never played a full NBA season and coming off not playing at all last season!
It's hard too say what you will get from him? He could play five games and look good, then miss the next 12 games? He could hurt the Cavs team chemistry up? Still don't dig on the Cavs bench.
This guy hasn't played a full season since 2007, call me pessimistic but after coming off his disastrous time with the 76ers we cannot ignore the likelihood of another calamity if we're entertaining a potential healthy Andrew Bynum. here. Thankfully, the deal is an amazing coup for the Cavaliers which represents minimal kick-back with the possibility of a huge reward, this type of ambition is exciting for the fans.
For all intents and purposes, Bynum played a full season in 2011-12. Out of 66 games, he played 60. Four (maybe 5) of the games he missed were due to suspension. I'm not really trying to vouch for Bynum's health record here (I don't know if that's possible), but I just thought I'd point that out.
my guess is either Thompson or Varejao has to go. This town ain't big enough for the 2 of us......
At least denver got something 4 iggy. Sixers and Lakers just lost completely around the board.
practicing his 3 point shot? I think it will be Amico.
Good signing and adds promise to a promising roster. They say Grant is working the phones with or without Bynum looking for a small forward.
I don't think anybodies got to go, they have a 15 man roster and Irving, Bynum and Varejao haven't played a full season in years (whole career in some cases). If somebody is going to be traded they should wait up until the deadline and see how it plays out. The biggest concern is that Mike Brown sucks at line ups and having a consistent rotation. He is the type of coach that will cut a guys minutes and never have a conversation about it.
Hopefully we don't lose a young baller for a gap filler at the 3.
I swear it seems like no one ever wants to play for the mavs...hmm
Old roster. If they had better, young talent I think they'd be more attractive.
they have 5 starting quality 4's and 5's and NO starting quality 3.....it just makes sense to move someone...even if you slide bennett to the 3 tristan and andy both could start but both wont be able to...it seems the smart thing to do would be to trade one for more depth at another weaker position.
If he's healthy this will be the best signing of the offseason.
If Dwight Howard is healthy he is the best signing of the offseason. I love Bynum's offensive talent but 18-11 has been his ceiling while Dwight averages 22-14 as a DPOY.
If only they were this active when they had LeBron...
This is a move that also helps take some of the load off of Kyrie (Given Him and Bynum stay healthy) I really like the move like most of you have said low risk, high reward.. Brings more excitement and promise to a young team maturing and learning how to win, take that next step which is making the playoffs. Hope he stays healthy that's the key by far.
Slow down the expectations. Bynum hasnt played basketball since May 21st 2012. I would not expect him to come back as a 20 and 10 Center or Top 3 Center. If the Cavs get a 15-ppg, 8-rpg, 2-bpg guy in 28-mpg for 120 games and two full postseasons that would be a huge impact for the organization although I dont expect him to play 82 games or a full postseason and I also dont expect him to be immediately ready and up to game speed.
I personally believe it is a bad signing and most people would not agree with me but it is true. You bring him in to be the cornerstone of the franchise along with Kyrie Irving. So even if he does come in healthy from the season opener averaging 23-ppg and 14-rpg with 3-bpg...when he gets injured what do you do. You cant have your organizations second best asset or worker be an asset or worker part time and expect to win a championship. This is a band-aid signing and the Cavs would be better off in my opinion keeping the cash and using the minutes and touches he would eat up while healthy on young players they drafted and by developing them.
Basically he will end up being a growth stunt for a talented young team and roster. Maybe they win a few more games but I just believe they tried to find a "get rich quick" or "easy way out" signing when right in front of them they have 4 top 5 draft picks Irving, Waiters, Bennett, and Thompson that they should have continued growing.
Bad move unless he stays healthy.
And if he's not healthy, you simply release him after one season (team option) and use your cap-room to try to bring another star in 2014. (aka LeBron)
Low risk, high reward.
Cavs vs Wizards may actually amount to must see TV this season.
now that can be HUGE and can be nothing..all depends on his health
let's say Andrew will be 80-90% form, with his abilities and talent that is an automatic 15/10 player with 2+ blocks..
let's say that makes Kyrie better than 5-6 assists per game point guard and let say Bennett lives up to the hypes at least to be the next Paul Millsap..
that would be contenders for that 6th seed if not more
IF at the same time LeBron starts to see that Wade isn't a superstar anymore and gets old...
I believe everyone understand what that means..lol
Bynum is a great player when healthy and will make the players around him better just because of how dominate he is and how much teams have to gameplan around him. I just think a young team full of third year, sophomore, and rookie players is not the right team to add Bynum. Cleveland needs someone that will show the young guys how to be a professional on and off the court, someone that will play 70-82 games a year and be a "sure thing" to contribute night in night out if they wanted to make a playoff push and add a veteran.
The potential downside to the move appears to be minimal. The Cavs were going nowhere this coming season before the move, and will resort back to that state if Bynum keeps to his career rate of missing 39 percent of all games on the schedule or 30 percent if you don't include last year. The concern for me, though, lies in that these pieces don't really fit to really offer a great deal of upside.
Kyrie Irving is a great young point guard. When Bynum is on the floor, he is a good, albeit overpraised, post scorer. Where is the spacing to help them out? Dion Waiters and Alonzo Gee are lousy shooters. Tristan Thompson does not need to be guarded outside the paint. Anderson Varejao is not a real threat to beat anyone with his shot. They are going to be a rather easy team to guard.
Mike Brown's teams have always played slow and had more emphasis on defense. Is he going to be able to find five guys to defend? If his blankey lineup is Bynum and Varejao up front and presumably Carrick Felix, Kyrie Irving, and Alonzo Gee, I find it hard to believe they will consistently be good enough offensively to compensate for being their best combination defensively. If they put out a 5 of Irving, Jack, Karasev, Bennett, and Bynum, the questions are can they outscore teams when they will at best be trading baskets, and if Mike Brown was willing to play D'Antoni ball then why was he let go in Los Angeles?
I understand that when a team wins 28 percent of its games for three straight years, the chance to possibly play a meaningful game in March or April is something hard to pass on, but I do think the attempt to move the team forward could have been done in a more constructive way.
The downside risk is $6 million next year so if things don't work out or they decide to go a different route then they have a $12 million team option on Bynum for $2014-15, add that to Varejao's near $10 million team option for the same year plus all the draft picks they have stockpiled so it gives Chris Grant huge trade firepower.
Add in he'll know exactly where the team will be in the 2014 draft before he needs to consider renewals for the 2011 draftees and will still have 2014 FA flexability if needed.
There are still a lot of questions to answer about how Cleveland's young core will progress but they seem to have a lot of options to change things or make further moves if needed.
It's still a low risk move. The only thing that would give me pause is that he and his team met with both the Hawks and Mavs and didn't come away with an offer from either. They must not have liked what they heard.
Mavs couldnt offer as much guarenteed money as the cavs could, not sure what happened with the Hawks
If he isn't healthy or just doesn't have the right attitude or any problems then the cavs can just get rid of him next year and it wont effect them at all. If he comes back healthy and back to his form of his last 2 years with the Lakers then this is a win and they pick him up for the following season. They should trade Varejao. He makes too much for a backup center and I think we could get something decent in return. Their starting lineup will probably look like Irving, Waiters, Clark, Thompson, Bynum. With Bennett, Miles, Karsaev, Jack, Gee, Zeller coming off the bench. This team has the potential to be in the top 5 or 6 in the east when healthy. I also hear they are going to go after Greg Oden still even after signing Bynum. If they could get Oden for cheap then maybe they could slowly bring him back and if it works out then have 2 legit centers, I doubt they both are ever healthy at the same time but I think its worth the gamble. As a cavs fan im all in for Lebron 2014.