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- Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 2:07am #58069
AderitoParticipantI am just curious to see your offers to find players true value. Think of the situation as where you had to trade something from your team for that player. What would your best offer be?
What would you give for these players individually?
1. OJ Mayo?
2. Ersan Ilyasova?
3. John Henson?
4. Zaza Pachulia?
5. Brandon Knight?
6. Larry Sanders?
7. Nate Wolters?
8. Khris Middleton?
9. Jabari Parker?
10. Damien Inglis?
11. Jared Dudley?
12. Jerryd Bayless?
13. Giannas Antetokounmpo?
14. Kendall Marshall?
15. Chris Wright?
16. Johnny O’Bryant III?
17. Elijah Millsap?
18. Michael Eric?if you can come up with your best offer for any of these individually that would be great. But if you have to pair any of them up that works to. Also try not to include draft picks as I am trying to figure out everyones true value.
Also I do realize some of the players on the bucks team will never be traded but I am just trying to find their value from the rest of the league.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 3:27am #950368
AderitoParticipantMavs:
1. OJ Mayo? No value to us.
2. Ersan Ilyasova? No value to us.
3. John Henson? Maybe for Brandan Wright + 1st round.
4. Zaza Pachulia? No value to us.
5. Brandon Knight? don’t need any more scoring PG.
6. Larry Sanders? Nothing. Negative value. He have Tyson Chandler that is on his last year of the contract and he will target DeAndre Jordan, Marc Gasol, Omer Asik and try to keep Tyson Chandler
7. Nate Wolters? No Need.
8. Khris Middleton? Rick Ledo + 2nd round.
9. Jabari Parker? No Need because he can´t play with Dirk.
10. Damien Inglis? The Mavs have too many SF´s
11. Jared Dudley? No value to us.
12. Jerryd Bayless? No value to us.
13. Giannis Antetokounmpo? If He can grow his production like Paul George did i would give anything but we don´t have guys that could convince the Bucks.
14. Kendall Marshall? Raymond Felton
15. Chris Wright? Nothing.
16. Johnny O’Bryant III? Nothing.
17. Elijah Millsap? Nothing.
18. Michael Eric? Nothing.0- Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 10:26am #950376
thatdude44ParticipantParker would play small forward if he was to play with dirk! In which would put parker at a disadvantage only because his offense is a bit more devolved then his Defense is right now. but with a full year of playing and learning I think Parker will be able to play with not only Dirk but with anybody in the league
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 10:26am #950511
thatdude44ParticipantParker would play small forward if he was to play with dirk! In which would put parker at a disadvantage only because his offense is a bit more devolved then his Defense is right now. but with a full year of playing and learning I think Parker will be able to play with not only Dirk but with anybody in the league
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- Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 3:27am #950503
AderitoParticipantMavs:
1. OJ Mayo? No value to us.
2. Ersan Ilyasova? No value to us.
3. John Henson? Maybe for Brandan Wright + 1st round.
4. Zaza Pachulia? No value to us.
5. Brandon Knight? don’t need any more scoring PG.
6. Larry Sanders? Nothing. Negative value. He have Tyson Chandler that is on his last year of the contract and he will target DeAndre Jordan, Marc Gasol, Omer Asik and try to keep Tyson Chandler
7. Nate Wolters? No Need.
8. Khris Middleton? Rick Ledo + 2nd round.
9. Jabari Parker? No Need because he can´t play with Dirk.
10. Damien Inglis? The Mavs have too many SF´s
11. Jared Dudley? No value to us.
12. Jerryd Bayless? No value to us.
13. Giannis Antetokounmpo? If He can grow his production like Paul George did i would give anything but we don´t have guys that could convince the Bucks.
14. Kendall Marshall? Raymond Felton
15. Chris Wright? Nothing.
16. Johnny O’Bryant III? Nothing.
17. Elijah Millsap? Nothing.
18. Michael Eric? Nothing.0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 9:25am #950370
Chilbert arenasParticipantWHAT? Jabari Parker can’t play with Dirk based off what??
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 9:25am #950505
Chilbert arenasParticipantWHAT? Jabari Parker can’t play with Dirk based off what??
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 1:57pm #950380
Rip255Greek Freak is legit the most overated prospect in the history of this site.
I think the drafting community is sexually aroused with his length.
0- Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 3:33pm #950390
nick5354Participantagree. One poster on here would give anything for him but wouldn’t take Parker. And another has the same trade value for the Greek freak and Parker. This obsession needs to stop.
0- Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 2:22am #950555
machu46ParticipantI think Giannis and Jabari having about the same trade value is a pretty common opinion at this point. I wouldn’t say he’s overrated so much as his trade value is based entirely on his potential. I don’t think anybody believes he’s worth the same as Jabari if he doesn’t improve at all, but he has all-star/superstar potential. If he struggles this year, his value will drop a good amount, but based on what we saw in the Summer League, he appears to have taken huge strides in his game, and I expect Kidd to use him much much more than Larry Drew ever did.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 2:22am #950420
machu46ParticipantI think Giannis and Jabari having about the same trade value is a pretty common opinion at this point. I wouldn’t say he’s overrated so much as his trade value is based entirely on his potential. I don’t think anybody believes he’s worth the same as Jabari if he doesn’t improve at all, but he has all-star/superstar potential. If he struggles this year, his value will drop a good amount, but based on what we saw in the Summer League, he appears to have taken huge strides in his game, and I expect Kidd to use him much much more than Larry Drew ever did.
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- Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 3:33pm #950525
nick5354Participantagree. One poster on here would give anything for him but wouldn’t take Parker. And another has the same trade value for the Greek freak and Parker. This obsession needs to stop.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 5:19am #950567
druneave3ParticipantWow. I am surprised that many people feel that way. Is it Euroballer backlash? I’m obsessed with Giannis and would give up a ton to get him. I just see an extremely unique player that could change games and be a terrible mismatch with his size, length, and ability. I think some of you might change your minds on this one after you see him playing point guard. He shot 34.7% in just his first NBA season. When given more minutes he should have several blocks and steals per game. Almost one (0.8) in both categories in just 24 minutes a game. Still just 19, his potential is off the charts.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 5:19am #950432
druneave3ParticipantWow. I am surprised that many people feel that way. Is it Euroballer backlash? I’m obsessed with Giannis and would give up a ton to get him. I just see an extremely unique player that could change games and be a terrible mismatch with his size, length, and ability. I think some of you might change your minds on this one after you see him playing point guard. He shot 34.7% in just his first NBA season. When given more minutes he should have several blocks and steals per game. Almost one (0.8) in both categories in just 24 minutes a game. Still just 19, his potential is off the charts.
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- Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 1:57pm #950515
Rip255Greek Freak is legit the most overated prospect in the history of this site.
I think the drafting community is sexually aroused with his length.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 2:42pm #950384
NCarmean18Participant1. OJ Mayo – No interest
2. Ersan Ilyasova – JJ Hickson, 2nd round pick
3. John Henson – Jusuf Nurkic, 2nd round pick
4. Zaza Pachulia – No interest
5. Brandon Knight – No interest
6. Larry Sanders – J.J. Hickson (Stoner for stoner, lol). Just kidding, no interest.
7. Nate Wolters – Quincy Miller
8. Khris Middleton – Quincy Miller, 2nd round pick
9. Jabari Parker – Gary Harris, Jusuf Nurkic, Protected 1st round pick
10. Damien Inglis – No interest
11. Jared Dudley – Randy Foye
12. Jerryd Bayless – Erick Green, 2nd Round pick
13. Giannis Antetekounmpo – Gary Harris, Jusuf Nurkic, Protected 1st Round pick
14. Kendall Marshall – Jusuf Nurkic, 2nd round pick
15. Others are irrelevant to me.
0- Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 3:30pm #950388
nick5354ParticipantSorry but I had to laugh at what you think Parker is worth. Gary Harris, Nurkic and a protected 1st is criminal
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 3:30pm #950523
nick5354ParticipantSorry but I had to laugh at what you think Parker is worth. Gary Harris, Nurkic and a protected 1st is criminal
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- Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 2:42pm #950519
NCarmean18Participant1. OJ Mayo – No interest
2. Ersan Ilyasova – JJ Hickson, 2nd round pick
3. John Henson – Jusuf Nurkic, 2nd round pick
4. Zaza Pachulia – No interest
5. Brandon Knight – No interest
6. Larry Sanders – J.J. Hickson (Stoner for stoner, lol). Just kidding, no interest.
7. Nate Wolters – Quincy Miller
8. Khris Middleton – Quincy Miller, 2nd round pick
9. Jabari Parker – Gary Harris, Jusuf Nurkic, Protected 1st round pick
10. Damien Inglis – No interest
11. Jared Dudley – Randy Foye
12. Jerryd Bayless – Erick Green, 2nd Round pick
13. Giannis Antetekounmpo – Gary Harris, Jusuf Nurkic, Protected 1st Round pick
14. Kendall Marshall – Jusuf Nurkic, 2nd round pick
15. Others are irrelevant to me.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 5:26pm #950533
gbmantisParticipantI wonder what the Bucks would do if they were offered Dirk or Kobe for Giannis. Obviously it would never happen, but I wonder if the new owners would sell out the future to fill the seats up for 3 years and getting the 4 seed in the east.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 5:26pm #950398
gbmantisParticipantI wonder what the Bucks would do if they were offered Dirk or Kobe for Giannis. Obviously it would never happen, but I wonder if the new owners would sell out the future to fill the seats up for 3 years and getting the 4 seed in the east.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 7:06pm #950539
tuck243ParticipantGiannis isn’t that fawking good man… You guys do realize that Paul George’s growth to superstardom isn’t normal right? Normally players don’t get that good offensively over a course of 2 years… PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT… Giannis isn’t Paul George so stop comparing them…
Also, WHAT WILL THE BUCKS DO IF THEY OFFERED DIRK OR KOBE FOR GIANNIS? Are you kidding me? I would hope if Buss or Cuban that fawking stupid to offer Kobe or Dirk up for him then the Bucks will take it ASAP… How can a player average 6.8 points a game on 41% shooting become the key to the future for HOF players? Like how?
During summer league people were saying he’s a PG… Like this crap is out of control.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 10/05/2014 - 7:06pm #950404
tuck243ParticipantGiannis isn’t that fawking good man… You guys do realize that Paul George’s growth to superstardom isn’t normal right? Normally players don’t get that good offensively over a course of 2 years… PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT… Giannis isn’t Paul George so stop comparing them…
Also, WHAT WILL THE BUCKS DO IF THEY OFFERED DIRK OR KOBE FOR GIANNIS? Are you kidding me? I would hope if Buss or Cuban that fawking stupid to offer Kobe or Dirk up for him then the Bucks will take it ASAP… How can a player average 6.8 points a game on 41% shooting become the key to the future for HOF players? Like how?
During summer league people were saying he’s a PG… Like this crap is out of control.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 7:15am #950579
AderitoParticipantI would not include the Dirk, Ellis or Parsons in a possible trade this is why i said that we don´t have guys that could convince the Bucks.
For Parker i said that because i believe that we have guys that can play some good offence and he is not that good playing D…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 7:15am #950444
AderitoParticipantI would not include the Dirk, Ellis or Parsons in a possible trade this is why i said that we don´t have guys that could convince the Bucks.
For Parker i said that because i believe that we have guys that can play some good offence and he is not that good playing D…
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 10:08am #950595
Moon RiverParticipantIf I were the Bucks, I would be willing to give Robert Tractor Traylor back for Dirk.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 10:08am #950460
Moon RiverParticipantIf I were the Bucks, I would be willing to give Robert Tractor Traylor back for Dirk.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 11:16am #950623
gbmantisParticipantRIP Tractor =(
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 11:16am #950488
gbmantisParticipantRIP Tractor =(
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 11:50am #950627
Moon RiverParticipantWow- I completely forgot that he passed. Thanks gbmantis.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 11:50am #950492
Moon RiverParticipantWow- I completely forgot that he passed. Thanks gbmantis.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 12:32pm #950631
barbabodomParticipantHenson – Prince´s expiring + Jarnel Stokes + 2 2nd roud picks
Wolters – Calathes + 2nd round
Ingles – 2nd round pick
Giannis/Jabari – Conley + Jordan Adams + tons of 1st and 2nd round picksnot interessed in other players
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/06/2014 - 12:32pm #950496
barbabodomParticipantHenson – Prince´s expiring + Jarnel Stokes + 2 2nd roud picks
Wolters – Calathes + 2nd round
Ingles – 2nd round pick
Giannis/Jabari – Conley + Jordan Adams + tons of 1st and 2nd round picksnot interessed in other players
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