[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

 Something wierd about this team.  Is it possible to have too many good players?

I think they need a go to scorer, that the entire offense revolves around, or maybe a dominant PG that conducts the offense. 

I thoguht Jabari would be that guy, yesterday he barely played but even when he did, he didn’t show me much.  I honestly think the Parker/Wiggins draft may be overrated looking back.  I think there was too much hysteria surrounding them, and they can’t live up to it by being superstars.

But even otherwise, the Bucks are a very good, deep team, with solid players at every position.

When I first saw them play last year I was thinking "wow this team is futuristic, long at every position", but I don’t know whats missing, they haven’t gelled yet.

Even their players are all solid, Parker, Middleton, Giannis, Monroe…MCW and Vasquez, even Jerryd Bayless and Ennis, I even like Copeland off the bench, they’re loaded with quality NBA talent.

Strange team.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Re-read my posts on the Bucks from this summer, and ignore all the negs they generated.

A good team on paper does not equal a good team.

Bucks have been a terrible team since last Feb.

And their floor spacing got a lot worse over the summer.

 

 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 -5000 points! Congratulations T!!! *sniff *sniff Little man’s all grown up now…

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 -5000 points! Congratulations T!!! *sniff *sniff Little man’s all grown up now…

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

i don’t care about all the negs I jsut look at the post.

Yeah I know something is up with the team, thats waht I was trying to get help pinpointing.  

Also, whats up with Giannis flexing his muscles after every time he makes a bucket?  

Same with Jabari, its like these guys hit the gym hard thinking that was the problem.

Its not that.  something missing.

Also, I know its only been one game for Jabari, but I’ve said this before, sometimes all you need is one game to know a guy is going to be good.

Johnny O’Bryant for instance, I saw him play one time, knew he’d be solid in the NBA.

D-Wade I remember watching him his debut against the Sixers when he was really not even highly touted, and I thoguht damn.

I honestly never got it with Greg Oden….but anyway.  

I’m underwhelemd by Jabari, think he needs to find his niche just like everyone else does on the Bucks, he’d probably be better off playing somewhere else because I think everyone is also confused on that team.  

He was rusty, hope he does well because I liked his game. I just don’t think it translates to star in the NBA.  We’ll see.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

i don’t care about all the negs I jsut look at the post.

Yeah I know something is up with the team, thats waht I was trying to get help pinpointing.  

Also, whats up with Giannis flexing his muscles after every time he makes a bucket?  

Same with Jabari, its like these guys hit the gym hard thinking that was the problem.

Its not that.  something missing.

Also, I know its only been one game for Jabari, but I’ve said this before, sometimes all you need is one game to know a guy is going to be good.

Johnny O’Bryant for instance, I saw him play one time, knew he’d be solid in the NBA.

D-Wade I remember watching him his debut against the Sixers when he was really not even highly touted, and I thoguht damn.

I honestly never got it with Greg Oden….but anyway.  

I’m underwhelemd by Jabari, think he needs to find his niche just like everyone else does on the Bucks, he’d probably be better off playing somewhere else because I think everyone is also confused on that team.  

He was rusty, hope he does well because I liked his game. I just don’t think it translates to star in the NBA.  We’ll see.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[T Rex]

 Re-read my posts on the Bucks from this summer, and ignore all the negs they generated.

A good team on paper does not equal a good team.

Bucks have been a terrible team since last Feb.

And their floor spacing got a lot worse over the summer.

 

 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Never thought I’d hear too many good players and the Bucks in the same sentence. They will be good though. I expect them to have home court advantage throughout the playoffs. Or else be the #5 team. This team is young, but it’s got some solid veterans in Bayless, Vasquez, and even Copeland. I’ve always been a Jabari fan, and I can’t wait for him to come back strong this season!

Should be a good season for Bucks fans.

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 Never thought I’d hear too many good players and the Bucks in the same sentence. They will be good though. I expect them to have home court advantage throughout the playoffs. Or else be the #5 team. This team is young, but it’s got some solid veterans in Bayless, Vasquez, and even Copeland. I’ve always been a Jabari fan, and I can’t wait for him to come back strong this season!

Should be a good season for Bucks fans.

 

[akhan786Participant]

 Jabari was playing for the first time in 11 months. Give him time. He only played 16 minutes and they should continue to bring him along slowly, because he looked hella rusty.

[akhan786Participant]

 Jabari was playing for the first time in 11 months. Give him time. He only played 16 minutes and they should continue to bring him along slowly, because he looked hella rusty.

[whiteflashParticipant]

 Parker’s 20 years old (I think) and yesterday was his first game back coming off of a torn acl. Give the kid a chance. 

[whiteflashParticipant]

 Parker’s 20 years old (I think) and yesterday was his first game back coming off of a torn acl. Give the kid a chance. 

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 Jabari is coming off an ACL tear so cut the guy some slack.  It was always my opinion that Jabari was overrated.  People thought he was going to be a superstar but I never saw it.  If he stays healthy, I think he’ll have a good NBA career with a few all-star appearances sprinkled in perhaps, but he’s not a guy you can build a franchis around in my opinion. That being said, I think the Bucks have a bright future.  They have tons of really good players, but no real superstar. 

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

 Jabari is coming off an ACL tear so cut the guy some slack.  It was always my opinion that Jabari was overrated.  People thought he was going to be a superstar but I never saw it.  If he stays healthy, I think he’ll have a good NBA career with a few all-star appearances sprinkled in perhaps, but he’s not a guy you can build a franchis around in my opinion. That being said, I think the Bucks have a bright future.  They have tons of really good players, but no real superstar. 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 is a special player but Phila should have won that game… The Bucks front line could Not handle Okafor & Noel & the Sixers coach had T.J. McConnell & Nik Stauskus take ALL the shots down the stretch & they blew the game… 

I know this thread isn’t about last night’s game but the Bucks still have to develop… & until Parker is healthy enough to play w/ the Greek, it’s going to be up & down for them… But I still like their future…

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 is a special player but Phila should have won that game… The Bucks front line could Not handle Okafor & Noel & the Sixers coach had T.J. McConnell & Nik Stauskus take ALL the shots down the stretch & they blew the game… 

I know this thread isn’t about last night’s game but the Bucks still have to develop… & until Parker is healthy enough to play w/ the Greek, it’s going to be up & down for them… But I still like their future…

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

are the only guys that appear to know what they’re doing on that team aside from Noel and Big Jah.

Who else do you want shooting…only thing nice about this year is that they are clearly weeding out who is and isn’t NBA talent.

Grant is a fringe NBA player, he just needs to learn how to finish.  If he can finish he’ll be solid because of his defense.  He should also never shoot a 3 pointer.

Jakarr Sampson, Isaiah Canaan, Hollis Thompson, man, aside from hitting a 3 pointer, they have no business being in the NBA.  They can’t even do that, can’t wait until these guys are off the squad next year.  

 

 

  

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 only 13 shots & Stuaskus who had several critical turn overs shoots 19 times & hits only 5…. I happened to watch the game & the coach gave it away… 

I hear what you are saying, they have limited talent & their teams runs much better w/ McConnel & I like Stauskus too… But when your team shoots 6 – 28 from 3 point range & you have Two 7 footers who are a combined 17 – 29 from the floor b/c the other team can’t handle you down low, you don’t have guys still jacking up 3’s w/ a 3 point lead & only 1 min & 30 sec left in the game…. 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 only 13 shots & Stuaskus who had several critical turn overs shoots 19 times & hits only 5…. I happened to watch the game & the coach gave it away… 

I hear what you are saying, they have limited talent & their teams runs much better w/ McConnel & I like Stauskus too… But when your team shoots 6 – 28 from 3 point range & you have Two 7 footers who are a combined 17 – 29 from the floor b/c the other team can’t handle you down low, you don’t have guys still jacking up 3’s w/ a 3 point lead & only 1 min & 30 sec left in the game…. 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

are the only guys that appear to know what they’re doing on that team aside from Noel and Big Jah.

Who else do you want shooting…only thing nice about this year is that they are clearly weeding out who is and isn’t NBA talent.

Grant is a fringe NBA player, he just needs to learn how to finish.  If he can finish he’ll be solid because of his defense.  He should also never shoot a 3 pointer.

Jakarr Sampson, Isaiah Canaan, Hollis Thompson, man, aside from hitting a 3 pointer, they have no business being in the NBA.  They can’t even do that, can’t wait until these guys are off the squad next year.  

 

 

  

[hoffmanm6Participant]

I am still baffled on why the Bucks traded Brandon Knight for MCW. I know MCW is more similar to J-Kidd but overall, Brandon Knight is a better player in the league. He is a better shooter, better athleticism, and is just a smarter basketball player. He also fit really well with the Bucks, gave them another shooter/scorer along side Middleton.

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 lose him for nothing…. I wondered the same thing b/c since that trade they have been about 7 games under .500… I’m reading that they are not sold on MCW & that this year is make or break for him w/ the Bucks… maybe someone else can shed more light on that – who follows the Bucks more closely

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 lose him for nothing…. I wondered the same thing b/c since that trade they have been about 7 games under .500… I’m reading that they are not sold on MCW & that this year is make or break for him w/ the Bucks… maybe someone else can shed more light on that – who follows the Bucks more closely

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

He was a RFA this year, they would have had the opportunity to match all offers. MCW just has the advantage of being on a rookie contract. They definately miss Knight. I don’t have faith in MCW or Vasquez. I am not so high on them anymore.

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

He was a RFA this year, they would have had the opportunity to match all offers. MCW just has the advantage of being on a rookie contract. They definately miss Knight. I don’t have faith in MCW or Vasquez. I am not so high on them anymore.

[machu46Participant]

1. Had they not traded him, they would have lost him for nothing.  They weren’t interested in re-signing him at $70+ million; trading him allowed them to keep Middleton and bring in Greg Monroe.

2. Knight is probably better right now, but really the only advantage he has over MCW is his shooting ability.  MCW is a far better defender, better rebounder, better passer, etc.  Knight is faster, but with MCW’s size and athleticism, he can still beat his man with his first step pretty much whenever he wants and he’s able to stay in front of people much better than Knight could.

At the end of the day, the Bucks traded a guy that they were going to lose for nothing and took a shot on a former ROY that they’re hoping is just scratching the surface of his game and also got Ennis as a throw-in.  You can argue that they should have cut Philly out of the deal and taken the Lakers 1st round pick instead, but trading Knight for something of value was a great idea once Milwaukee determined that they would not bring him back this season.

Edit: And the starting lineup has been better with MCW than it ever was with Knight.  The difference since trading Knight is that the bench went from being elite to horrible.  With Knight on the court last year, they were outscored by .3 points per 100 possessions; with MCW, they outscored their opponents by over 6 points.

 

 

 

[machu46Participant]

1. Had they not traded him, they would have lost him for nothing.  They weren’t interested in re-signing him at $70+ million; trading him allowed them to keep Middleton and bring in Greg Monroe.

2. Knight is probably better right now, but really the only advantage he has over MCW is his shooting ability.  MCW is a far better defender, better rebounder, better passer, etc.  Knight is faster, but with MCW’s size and athleticism, he can still beat his man with his first step pretty much whenever he wants and he’s able to stay in front of people much better than Knight could.

At the end of the day, the Bucks traded a guy that they were going to lose for nothing and took a shot on a former ROY that they’re hoping is just scratching the surface of his game and also got Ennis as a throw-in.  You can argue that they should have cut Philly out of the deal and taken the Lakers 1st round pick instead, but trading Knight for something of value was a great idea once Milwaukee determined that they would not bring him back this season.

Edit: And the starting lineup has been better with MCW than it ever was with Knight.  The difference since trading Knight is that the bench went from being elite to horrible.  With Knight on the court last year, they were outscored by .3 points per 100 possessions; with MCW, they outscored their opponents by over 6 points.

 

 

 

[hoffmanm6Participant]

I am still baffled on why the Bucks traded Brandon Knight for MCW. I know MCW is more similar to J-Kidd but overall, Brandon Knight is a better player in the league. He is a better shooter, better athleticism, and is just a smarter basketball player. He also fit really well with the Bucks, gave them another shooter/scorer along side Middleton.

[zcnumerounoParticipant]

 I think Giannis could end up being a franchise-talent star. He’s only 20 and has unlimited physical gifts, and Jabari is also only 20. IMO, in a few years, they will make one hell of a one-two punch, with Monroe and Middleton being excellent third and fourth options. They’re a young team… Give them time.

[zcnumerounoParticipant]

 I think Giannis could end up being a franchise-talent star. He’s only 20 and has unlimited physical gifts, and Jabari is also only 20. IMO, in a few years, they will make one hell of a one-two punch, with Monroe and Middleton being excellent third and fourth options. They’re a young team… Give them time.

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

but as of now, I don’t think either guy has a clue how to play with each other.

I’d even go so far as to say I dn’t think anyone has seen a Giannis before in the NBA.  The guy is literally the size of Nerlens Noel and has the frame and game of a guard.  He is Thon Maker before Thon Maker, with more athleticism.  Its just wierd even to look at.  I still think he’s not great at any one aspect of the game.  he’s just gangly and long, and uses taht to beat anyone that is defending him down teh court on a fast break.  What else does he do that is so spectacular?

I hope to see them play together and play well.

The future of the NBA is the Bucks-Timberwolves-Sixers.  In 5 years these teams will be contenders.  

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

but as of now, I don’t think either guy has a clue how to play with each other.

I’d even go so far as to say I dn’t think anyone has seen a Giannis before in the NBA.  The guy is literally the size of Nerlens Noel and has the frame and game of a guard.  He is Thon Maker before Thon Maker, with more athleticism.  Its just wierd even to look at.  I still think he’s not great at any one aspect of the game.  he’s just gangly and long, and uses taht to beat anyone that is defending him down teh court on a fast break.  What else does he do that is so spectacular?

I hope to see them play together and play well.

The future of the NBA is the Bucks-Timberwolves-Sixers.  In 5 years these teams will be contenders.  

 

 

  

[timinator1Participant]

…so you mean Toni Kukoc?  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

wasn’t beating people dwon teh court in a fast break.  

Toni Kukoc and Hedo Turkoglu and even Porzingis all kind of look similar.

Porzingis is also just wierd looking out there.

But None of those guys have teh athleticism of Giannis.

 

I wonder if Dragan Bender will be similar.  Dragan definitely has a command of the game already, high IQ guy.  

 

 

 

 

  

[T Rex]

 Way to compare Porzingis to guys 4-5 inches shorter than him, and say all those white guys look alike.

Porzingis is just as quick defensively as Giannis, but significantly more coordinated.

Like shooting 3 pointers and stretching the floor.

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

because he looks like a freak out there kinda like Giannis.

But Porzingis doesn’t have the speed and can’t go from end to end like Giannis can.  

He can however shoot a lot better and defend better, and is naturally stronger.

I’d take Porzingis over Giannis any day.  

I just meant to say that Giannis and Kukoc/Hedo/Porzingis do not look alike, nor do they have the same athleticism.  

 

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

because he looks like a freak out there kinda like Giannis.

But Porzingis doesn’t have the speed and can’t go from end to end like Giannis can.  

He can however shoot a lot better and defend better, and is naturally stronger.

I’d take Porzingis over Giannis any day.  

I just meant to say that Giannis and Kukoc/Hedo/Porzingis do not look alike, nor do they have the same athleticism.  

 

 

 

  

[T Rex]

 Way to compare Porzingis to guys 4-5 inches shorter than him, and say all those white guys look alike.

Porzingis is just as quick defensively as Giannis, but significantly more coordinated.

Like shooting 3 pointers and stretching the floor.

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

wasn’t beating people dwon teh court in a fast break.  

Toni Kukoc and Hedo Turkoglu and even Porzingis all kind of look similar.

Porzingis is also just wierd looking out there.

But None of those guys have teh athleticism of Giannis.

 

I wonder if Dragan Bender will be similar.  Dragan definitely has a command of the game already, high IQ guy.  

 

 

 

 

  

[timinator1Participant]

…so you mean Toni Kukoc?  

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 In five years the Warriors will be coming off a 4peat.  

In TEN YEARS who knows…

The Bucks, Wolves, and Sixers are looking solid, BUT it will depend on which of these teams dominate the next few drafts.

For the Wolves, to me, I like Wiggins and KAT as 2nd and 3rd options.  But, can they get a guy who will be the best player in the league in 6 or 7 years?

The Bucks have some nice youngsters, but their UPSIDE will be only as high as the upside of their Giannis-Jabari core.  Also, Greg Monroe isn’t really a super young guy anymore, so you might get a limited upside if you get older guys to be a part of a young core.

I like Philly since I think Okafor has that first option ability.  Then Nerlens Noel is a guy who can beat you without having a lot of plays drawn for him.  I also think they have some potential Moneyball guys on the roster.  BUT, it obviously depends on the UPSIDE of their young lotto picks (including Embiid), plus their 2016 and 2017 picks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 In five years the Warriors will be coming off a 4peat.  

In TEN YEARS who knows…

The Bucks, Wolves, and Sixers are looking solid, BUT it will depend on which of these teams dominate the next few drafts.

For the Wolves, to me, I like Wiggins and KAT as 2nd and 3rd options.  But, can they get a guy who will be the best player in the league in 6 or 7 years?

The Bucks have some nice youngsters, but their UPSIDE will be only as high as the upside of their Giannis-Jabari core.  Also, Greg Monroe isn’t really a super young guy anymore, so you might get a limited upside if you get older guys to be a part of a young core.

I like Philly since I think Okafor has that first option ability.  Then Nerlens Noel is a guy who can beat you without having a lot of plays drawn for him.  I also think they have some potential Moneyball guys on the roster.  BUT, it obviously depends on the UPSIDE of their young lotto picks (including Embiid), plus their 2016 and 2017 picks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

 Okafor is the offensive stud.

Noel is the defensive stud.

Embiid is potentially as good as Okafor on offense and Noel on defense.  We just gotta get this dude healthy.  Then at the end of games with a lead you can have Embiid and Noel as your rim protectors in the game.  Wow.

Embiid will likely be better than the both of them if he is healthy because he isn’t limited at any spot.  I can see him shutting down anyone in the NBA, including Anthony Davis if healthy.  He has that combo of size and strength and quickness (soccer background).

Surround these guys with shooters and a swingman that can get you some quick points on a fast break, and thats RINGS.  

 

 

 

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

 Okafor is the offensive stud.

Noel is the defensive stud.

Embiid is potentially as good as Okafor on offense and Noel on defense.  We just gotta get this dude healthy.  Then at the end of games with a lead you can have Embiid and Noel as your rim protectors in the game.  Wow.

Embiid will likely be better than the both of them if he is healthy because he isn’t limited at any spot.  I can see him shutting down anyone in the NBA, including Anthony Davis if healthy.  He has that combo of size and strength and quickness (soccer background).

Surround these guys with shooters and a swingman that can get you some quick points on a fast break, and thats RINGS.  

 

 

 

 

 

[timinator1Participant]

 You at all worried about a guy who hadn’t really played much basketball before Kansas, who had foot trouble and conditioning trouble (apparently) and has had to sit out two years?

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

 Dude of course I have, and you have to live between fear and hope.

I am obviously very hopefuly Embiid comes back.  What is kind of cool is that we are less reliant on him right now.

You know I saw a video of his on TMZ where he is hanging out iwth John Wall in LA.  I wonder if Wall is already trying to convince Embiid to sign with Washington once he can become a FA.  Playing the long-game.  "So you feel snubbed big-guy with the Shirley temple talk….you think its annoying no one mentioning your name now that Big Jah is doing his thing in the offense…just come play with us".

But I will say, I am confident taht when he comes back, he will be better than both Jah and Nerlens.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[timinator1Participant]

…um, no. In his best comp, BEST comp, he’s probably Mutumbo. A real game changer defensively. But I think that’s the best us Philly fans can hope for.  

[timinator1Participant]

…um, no. In his best comp, BEST comp, he’s probably Mutumbo. A real game changer defensively. But I think that’s the best us Philly fans can hope for.  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

 Dude of course I have, and you have to live between fear and hope.

I am obviously very hopefuly Embiid comes back.  What is kind of cool is that we are less reliant on him right now.

You know I saw a video of his on TMZ where he is hanging out iwth John Wall in LA.  I wonder if Wall is already trying to convince Embiid to sign with Washington once he can become a FA.  Playing the long-game.  "So you feel snubbed big-guy with the Shirley temple talk….you think its annoying no one mentioning your name now that Big Jah is doing his thing in the offense…just come play with us".

But I will say, I am confident taht when he comes back, he will be better than both Jah and Nerlens.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[timinator1Participant]

 You at all worried about a guy who hadn’t really played much basketball before Kansas, who had foot trouble and conditioning trouble (apparently) and has had to sit out two years?

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Anthony Davis, as great as he is, having to contend with…

a healthy barrage of Embiid, Okafor, and Noel on the offensive end.  

I…can’t…wait.

 

Meanwhile D’Angelo Russell will be making whip passes to Robert Sacre.  

 

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Anthony Davis, as great as he is, having to contend with…

a healthy barrage of Embiid, Okafor, and Noel on the offensive end.  

I…can’t…wait.

 

Meanwhile D’Angelo Russell will be making whip passes to Robert Sacre.  

 

 

 

  

[Rip256]

Fast forward 2 years and Parker and Giannis just isnt enough in my opinion.

Theyre both going to be good (not great) players and I expect them to be a consistent 50 win team.

Kinda like how Wall and Beal have the Wiz stuck in lower playoff spots. 

Monroe, Middleton and MCW etc  league average starters….but Parker and Gianis will keep them as second round fodder which is probably where any Milwaukee team will max-out.

 

 

 

[Rip256]

Fast forward 2 years and Parker and Giannis just isnt enough in my opinion.

Theyre both going to be good (not great) players and I expect them to be a consistent 50 win team.

Kinda like how Wall and Beal have the Wiz stuck in lower playoff spots. 

Monroe, Middleton and MCW etc  league average starters….but Parker and Gianis will keep them as second round fodder which is probably where any Milwaukee team will max-out.

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Jabari was playing his first game in 11 months and it was clear he wasn’t going to see major minutes. Jason Kidd may ideally have wanted to ease him back in from the bench but with several guys out injured he didn’t really have that luxury so Jabari returned as a starter, a role he would have likely returned to soon anyway.

The Bucks have had a fair few roster changes over the summer and it will take a while for Kidd to get the team playing as he wants once he finally gets all his key guys fit.

Monroe has started the season solidly and will benefit from being their main frontcourt option. Giannis is filling the stats column as we hope he can, I think Jabari will soon get back up to speed too so the Bucks should be fine going forward.

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Jabari was playing his first game in 11 months and it was clear he wasn’t going to see major minutes. Jason Kidd may ideally have wanted to ease him back in from the bench but with several guys out injured he didn’t really have that luxury so Jabari returned as a starter, a role he would have likely returned to soon anyway.

The Bucks have had a fair few roster changes over the summer and it will take a while for Kidd to get the team playing as he wants once he finally gets all his key guys fit.

Monroe has started the season solidly and will benefit from being their main frontcourt option. Giannis is filling the stats column as we hope he can, I think Jabari will soon get back up to speed too so the Bucks should be fine going forward.

 

 

[tuck243Participant]

Even when MJ came back from retirement the first time he was a few steps slow.   Hell the ankle injury he had he didn’t come back killing initially.   I think the first game back you shouldn’t be expecting Jabari Parker to be this Go-to player.  

But the Bucks have horrible court spacing.   "The Freak" is cool, but him and MCW on the court together doesn’t help them…   Both players aren’t people that you have to make sure you guard out to the 3pt line (even though Greek is shooting 4-8 right now).   And it hurts when your PG can’t keep the defense honest.

This current day NBA you’re not able to have more than one person in your line up that can’t spread the floor consistently…   You damn sure can’t have a starting line up with one 3pt caliber shooter.  It’s impossible to win games unless it’s a defensive team.  And Greg Monroe isn’t a rim protector, so its a waste…   Both Jabari and Giannis HAVE to become consistent from 3 in order for this current roster to flourish…   It will enable MCW enough space to do his thing and Monroe enough space to do his.   Personally, I’m not a fan of Monroe because having him as your big man you have to go to him.   The issue here is he’s not really a go to player and if you treat him like a role player he’s ineffective.  They should’ve built on what they currently had with Giannis and Jabari then sign a rim protector like Tyson Chandler instead.  Run up and down the court and wait for your young players to get better.   Now you have your #2 pick playing off a player that’s not really good in Monroe.  And you have your jack of all trades forced into one particular role.  So, essentially you made your players of the future role players for Greg Monroe?  That’s dumb…   That’s why him in Detriot didn’t work.  Yea he gets his numbers, but at what cost to the team?  Losing games?  Nah… 

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Even when MJ came back from retirement the first time he was a few steps slow.   Hell the ankle injury he had he didn’t come back killing initially.   I think the first game back you shouldn’t be expecting Jabari Parker to be this Go-to player.  

But the Bucks have horrible court spacing.   "The Freak" is cool, but him and MCW on the court together doesn’t help them…   Both players aren’t people that you have to make sure you guard out to the 3pt line (even though Greek is shooting 4-8 right now).   And it hurts when your PG can’t keep the defense honest.

This current day NBA you’re not able to have more than one person in your line up that can’t spread the floor consistently…   You damn sure can’t have a starting line up with one 3pt caliber shooter.  It’s impossible to win games unless it’s a defensive team.  And Greg Monroe isn’t a rim protector, so its a waste…   Both Jabari and Giannis HAVE to become consistent from 3 in order for this current roster to flourish…   It will enable MCW enough space to do his thing and Monroe enough space to do his.   Personally, I’m not a fan of Monroe because having him as your big man you have to go to him.   The issue here is he’s not really a go to player and if you treat him like a role player he’s ineffective.  They should’ve built on what they currently had with Giannis and Jabari then sign a rim protector like Tyson Chandler instead.  Run up and down the court and wait for your young players to get better.   Now you have your #2 pick playing off a player that’s not really good in Monroe.  And you have your jack of all trades forced into one particular role.  So, essentially you made your players of the future role players for Greg Monroe?  That’s dumb…   That’s why him in Detriot didn’t work.  Yea he gets his numbers, but at what cost to the team?  Losing games?  Nah… 

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