B.S. Rip Hamilton article by ESPN's Ric Bucher...
...i just read the article and he failed to mention the team wanting to Rip to give back 9 million. It looked to me like he is trying to make the Pistons look like they to solve the Rip situation and Rip is trying to make it hard for them...
Saturday, February 26, 2011
Sources: Rip Hamilton chose to stay
By Ric Bucher
ESPN The Magazine
If the Detroit Pistons are beyond frustrated with Richard Hamilton after his part in the recent player boycott of practice, it's because he had a chance to no longer be coached by John Kuester -- the impetus for the boycott -- and didn't take it.
The Pistons had a deal arranged with the Cavaliers, league sources say, that would've sent Hamilton to Cleveland. The Pistons would've added a first-round pick to compensate the Cavs for taking Hamilton off their hands. Cleveland could've absorbed Hamilton's contract with a $12 million trade exception.
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The Cavs, league sources say, were willing to buy out Hamilton immediately or wait until the summer and buy out the last year of his contract. Sources say the Celtics were aware of the deal and were looking to add Hamilton to their roster once he was available. Hamilton, however, declined to consider a buyout, now or later, and the deal died, sources say.
Neither Pistons general manager Joe Dumars nor Leon Rose, Hamilton's agent, were available for comment.
As for the boycott, one source said some of the players did not show up for the shootaround because they were told the starting time had changed. Austin Daye was one of the players who didn't show up on time because of the misunderstanding, the source said, but it wasn't clear how many other absent players were also confused. "The team boycott idea is being overblown," said the source. "It was more miscommunication than defiance."
Tracy McGrady, Tayshaun Prince, Chris Wilcox and Hamilton also missed the team's shootaround Friday morning before that night's game against the Sixers in Philadelphia, and team sources told multiple media outlets that the players were staging a protest.
Sources told the Detroit Free Press and Detroit News on Friday that the shootaround boycott was directed at Kuester, who has clashed with players in the past.
Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com on Friday that Pistons veterans tried to organize a teamwide boycott of Detroit's shootaround before its last game prior to the All-Star break.
But the walkout was called off, sources said, when some Pistons players were told that Kuester was about to be dismissed during All-Star Weekend. Detroit went out that night and scored a 115-109 overtime victory at home over a hot Indiana team.
Before Friday's game in Philadelphia, sources said, similar attempts were made by the same veterans to organize a teamwide no-show at the morning shootaround again, presumably in response to the fact that no trades were made before Thursday's 3 p.m. trade deadline and the fact that Kuester was not let go.
But six Pistons players attended the shootaround in Philly and were the only players Kuester used in the 110-94 defeat: Will Bynum, Ben Gordon, Jason Maxiell, Greg Monroe, DaJuan Summers and Charlie Villanueva.
Ric Bucher covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.
Hamilton Nixed Buyout at $9M Below Value?
Posted: 2/26/2011 6:45:00 AM
Source: Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports
Detroit Pistons guard Richard Hamilton sought a trade for months, and the Pistons were close to sending him to the Cavaliers on Thursday, league sources said. Hamilton, however, wouldn’t agree to surrender $9 million of the $25 million he could make over the next two seasons, scuttling a potential contract buyout and forcing the Pistons to keep him.
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Sounds like BS. If they had a trade in the works for Hamilton why would they tell him, they benched hamilton without telling him a got damn reason why, now they are going to tell him "yah you might go to Cleveland hold still". GTFO. Im loving this in Detroit and Detroit fans should love it too. maybe the Hamilton trade happens in the offseason, it would be smart for detroit.
Detroit is a mess right now. Some serious changes need to be made this summer. If it was me, I would be trying to get rid of almost everyone on that team. I would keep Bynum, Daye, Stuckey, Monroe, Jerebko, White and Summers. Everyone else I would try to move or buyout. I know that isn't likely but I wouldn't be playing these vets as much this year either. I would be trying to develop these young guys. Most of their guys are role player though and need an infusion of young talent very soon.
The Pistons could solve all this crap by just getting rid of Kuester...... Having a team full of players that doesn't like or RESPECT a coach generally does not lead to success( look at the Pacers w/ Jim O'Brien). Dumars should be the next to go, because he's doing a pretty bad job, too.
Hamilton is a a spoiled little brat. He supposedly had a way out of Detroit and to go play for a championship contender, but decided he would rather make millions of dollars sitting on the bench. He chose money over happiness and that is fine. For everyone happiness has a price. But to have the gull to organize a protest even after he is the one who chose to stay is just wrong.
As a pistons fan I knew that we were done for the minute we signed Gordon and Villanuela. We need to let go of everyone im fine if we dont get the same value in return. We just need a new start. Let go of everyone except Monroe. Draft Sullinger(our record will probably be worse than everyones but Minnesotta and Cleveland by the end of the year). a Sullinger Monroe C-PF combo looks nice. The rest of the team happens to be what ever we get back in exchange for the rest of our players.
What was the whole purpose of the protest with the vets?
Oh Kuester is gone I dont think anyone is debating that.
the pistons suck, and right now i feel ashamed to be a fan, there are a complete mess
just start the whole thing over
Glad to finally see the Pistons champs standing up for Rip. You've heard Chauncey going on record numerous times from another teambacking Hamilton. It's gonna be rough if Ben retires and Tay leaves. Can't wait see how all of this unfolds.
Funny thing is, most people were able to predict the downfall of Detroit.
The Billups trade was obviously a mistake and then the signings of Gordon and Villanueva were death.
Clearly bad decisions.
EDIT: Hadzialijagic knows what I'm talking about.
Right, one of the top teams defensively on a consistent basis sign Charlie V. and Ben Gordon to be the new faces of the franchise. What a joke that was.
Sh!t is f!cked up there in the D.
The Pistons are bad and will be bad for some time. Between the horrible signings, trades, drafts, and contract extensions, they've set themselves up for failur for now and the forseeable future. Also, I'm not sayin John Kuester is a great or even average coach, but he's not the reason why the Pistons are losing. Point blank they just don't have the team to win. I can't understand why Rip wouldn't take that deal and get out of there. I feel bad for guys like Tayshaun and him who still have some ability but has to put up with the crap goin on in Detroit. Being the class acts that Tay and Ben Wallace are I've gotta believe Kuesters done somethin to piss these guys off and he really needs to be let go. As for there future, right now there really isn't a future. They've gotta team full of mid aged, at-best average players that are being overpaid and can't play defense. It's clear to see Stuckey isn't gonna get much better, Jerebko is an energy role player...not someone you build your team around, and Bynum is a guy that should be getting maybe 15 minutes a game on a good team. The only players with value right now are Daye who has some potential as a scorer and Monroe who can be a formidable Center as he gains experience and gets stronger. The rest of the team aren't going to win you many games and aren't going to sell many tickets either. the only thing Detroit can do is ride out these bad signings and old players and take the bad record, hope the lottery balls fall their way and draft the right people. At any rate Detroit Basketball is just in a bad place right now and I say that regretfully as a lifetime fan
I'm not going to fault Rip for taking the money, which is rightfully his. If he doesn't want to be moved or bought out, it is what it is. Ultimately, the Pistons are the ones who gave him that bloated contract. The situation is a disaster, and it's both the players, GM and coach's faults. Their roster is horribly put together. Their biggest issue is they don't have a PG. You simply don't win without a PG. T-Mac has definitely done better than advertised, but he's not a PG. Stuckey, he's still stuck between positions, which is a major handicap for the Pistons and his own potential. He's not a 1 and he's not really a 2 either. Also, they have a severe hole at the 4 spot. Jerebko is more of an energy bench player, Villanueva has been a failure, and Daye is too skinny and isn't physical enough to play that position full time. If you start Monroe at the 4, you need to find a C.
I think Gordon isn't an issue for the Pistons, he's simply stuck in a bad position, not getting the PT he likely expected at times, and sometimes even having to bring the ball up the court. Monroe, Daye, Jerebko and White are good young players, Bynum is a sparkplug. But they need to fully commit to rebuilding before progressing.
They should blow up, and get mean again. The Pistons franchise has been very successful when they were built around defense. Even teams with not much talent can win games if they are tough enough.
Coach is to blame for all this mess. He should have maned up and had a meeting with Rip and tell him he wasn't gonna play him and why. And that trade wasn't a very good trade for the pistons, and did you really expect a guy to take a 9 mil hit??? Did you expect a guy you have benched without an explanation to take a 9mil hit???