So the Pistons have announced that the new PG in town will start beside the old one..
They are shifting Knight to the SG spot and I guess that means that Stucky or Singler will start at SF and the other will be coming off the bench.. Wth Will Bynunm still on the team, does this mean that Knight will become a full time SG?? If not, that means that they will have 3 PGs in their rotation.
How does this affect his production? Will he be more successful or just out of place??
The experiment of Knight the SG really intrests me and I really look forward to seeing how he finishes the second half of the year.
What do you all think??
There are a few team that could use Bynum
B. Knight is a decent PG but he's not a legit PG. I actually am looking forward to seeing him at the 2, he's got decent enough size to guard most 2's and I think his scoring will go up a lot playing off the ball. I could see him being what they hoped Ben Gordon was going to be.
I know Calderon is only on rent for his salary, but he's quite legit and they would be silly to not give him some minutes, I don't think he needs to play 30 but he's good for 20-25, anything less would be a waste of talent.
I sure hope they do NOT put Stuckey at the 3...Singler can handle that just fine, they should trade Stuckey off before his value continues to decrease. He's one of the guys that come to mind when I think of players who desperately need a fresh start elsewhere.
Brandon Knight is a combo, remember his comparison was Jason Terry, and Jason Terry has played both the 1 and the 2, but he's been better at the 2. I think the same will be said for Knight. He's physically the exact same size and weight as Monta, except he has a 6'6 wingspan, Monta has a 6'2. I think He'll be a great combo, scorer first, passer next, in the Monta/Jet mold. Good for Detroit. Now they just need a small forward, Singer isn't the answer. Their front court is looking good.
20 points, 5 rebounds, and 8 assists tonight so far.
I prefer Knight to start at the 1, even if he can play the 2, he's best served as a scoring point guarding other PGs rather than giving up size almost every night on opposing 2s. Defensively, he's great on the ball from what I've seen, he's best at denying dribble penetration, but I'm not sure how that will translate against shooters.
I think they might be getting a bit ahead of themselves and losing sight of their long-term goals.
He's better as a sixth man than anything else, his playmaking and passing ability are below average
hmmmm.... knight at the 2..... I like it.... start calderon at the one... Bynum as the back up... stuckey to back up knight.. and start singler at the 3....... I really like that better than anything else
Knight is a PG to me. Today's PG's aren't always pass-first faciliters like back in the day like a John Stockton. In fact past Chris Paul or Rondo, they're aren't any really elite pass 1st PGs. More of the elite PG's are more of the scoring type PG like Rose, Westbrook, Irving, Parker.
Also I think Knight is very underrated. Having a solid 2nd year after a solid rookie year. I think some people forget that most players take some time to really develop into the best player they can be, when they see guys like Irving, Rose, Durant, ect play at an elite level right away. He's only 21, he's still going to get better. I think he's going to be the 2nd best player from his draft class behind Kyrie Irving.
Will he ever be a top 10 player? highly unlikely, but a top 25 player someday? possibly. I don't think after Rondo's rookie year people thought he'd be this good.
Really Paul & Rondo is all that come to mind as pass-first PGs?
Jose Calderon, Steve Nash, Greivis Vasquez, Jason Kidd, Goran Dragic, Ricky Rubio, Andre Miller. Just to name a few...I know you said "elite" but most of these either are on their way to being elite or used to be elite.
Then there's other respectable pass-first PGs such as:
Kirk Hinrich, Luke Ridnour, Mike Conley, Eric Maynor, etc.
The keyword was "elite" pass-first PGs, not pass-first PGs. I'll give you Rubio when he's healthy, but the rest are average players at best, either past their prime or simply not that good. Oh, and neither Dragic nor Vasquez are pass-first PGs, just like Russell Westbrook isn't even though he puts up assist numbers.
About Vasquez: Yes, he's playing on a bad team and probably not elite... but his 9apg makes me consider him as pass-first.
Dragic, definitely not pass-first.
How can you possibly not consider Nash, Kidd, and Calderon elite? Two of them are some of the best point guards of all time, and Calderon even at his age is getting triple doubles still. He's also a gold medalist for a country that isn't USA.
There's a difference in being ELITE at scoring and being ELITE at passing. Just because most the PGs in todays game are undersized shooting guards doesn't negate the fact there is still a lot of ELITE passers.
That is because in your mind a player can't be elite unless they score. Even if the player in question shoots a percentage below league average, see Westbrook, they can still be elite in your mind if they score enough points per game.
So yes you've kind of made a definition that a pass first PG can't really meet very easily because if they don't score they can't be elite but if they score they aren't pass first.
He played off the ball at UK while Lamb ran the point most of the time.
Knight was almost always Kentucky's primary ball handler when he was in the game. Doron Lamb was their primary backup point guard (when Knight was out of the game), with DeAndre Liggins bringing the ball up court sometimes as well.
Not sure if Knight is the Pistons' PG of the future, but I think he is serviceable at this point and he is still getting better. With this being a relatively weak PG draft class, I don't think they should give up on him yet. The Pistons are still rebuilding and their front court of Monroe and Drummond could be dominant in a few years.