Boston fans, how do you feel about your offseason?
I became a Butler basketball fan in the mid '90s after I heard that the movie Hoosiers was filmed where they play. I got to see them once a year at Cleveland State because I grew up attending CSU games. I loved Brad Stevens. His wife went to the same high school from which I graduated and I just loved how smart, gritty, and poised his teams always were. As a Stevens fan, last year I started rooting for the Celtics.
Last year Rajon Rondo missed 50 games and they finished with only 25 wins, 13 games out of the final playoff spot. Trade rumors have abounded concerning Rondo, who is 28 and in the middle of a rebuild. It has become clear that they aren't getting Kevin Love. They locked up Avery Bradley, then they drafted Mah-cus Smaht and James Young, signed Evan Turner, and traded for Marcus Thornton and Tyler Zeller.
So how much better did they get? They get a healthy, veteran Rondo back for a full season. Smart will make an immediate impact off the bench, while Sullinger, KO, and even Brad Stevens should improve with experience.
Their projected lineup is Rondo-Bradley-Green-Sullinger-KO with Smart leading the bench. Are the Cs fans disappointed they didn't make a bigger move or more of a roster overhaul? Or optimistic about taking the next step in the rebuild? Is playoff contention within reason? Can they outplay some of the last few teams to make the playoffs in the east last year; Atlanta, Charlotte, Brooklyn?
I just feel like they are the 1 team in the league without a clear direction.
That is correct, they either have Rondo and veterans or they have Smart and rebuilding, they can't do both at the same time. They used a very high pick on smart who plays the same way as Rondo, and then they signed Bradley and now Turner who also have a similar game. None of them can really shoot too well.
They got Zeller and a pick for free, that was a good move.
But really it was a bad offseason, and they have not decided if they want to try to win with Rondo or to start over. If they get K Love everything turns around, but maybe they were expecting to get him on draft night and when that didn't happen they didn't have another plan decided on.
I like the Turner-signing, I like the Smart-Young picks, what I don't like is the uncertainty around Rondo, plus the absense of a true center on the rooster. Cs are passive this summer bc they will be attacking next year's free agency, still they can fill their squad with some of the more intriguing FAs remaining - Kent Bazemore, Jordan Crawford (yes, I know they traded him mid-season, still - im hihn on him), Shawn Marion, Dante Cunningham, Emeka Okafor. As for the playoff contention - I think it's unlikely, although Brooklyn and Atlanta are reachable.
Kent Bazemore is an Atlanta bound...
There is talk about them getting Josh Smith which would make them better.... but there is also talk of them trading Rondo which would make them worse. As currently constructed I don't see them making the playoffs unless Rondo puts up video game numbers which he is certainly capable of. I think they are going to start the season and we will know what their plans will be after the first 20 games. If they can trade some of the younger guys and complete for a playoff spot then they will do that, but if they are just terrible then I think Rondo will be gone and I believe the latter is more likely.
see them being the 8th seed, beating out Brooklyn or Atlanta (if Rondo is healthy all year), but I don't see them being better then Charlotte. I think Charlotte is going to end up being a top 6 seed in the east next year.
This offseason has sucked. It started when Boston ended with the 6th pick. As much as I like Brad stevens as a coach, he F*ked up the season by playing veterans like Humphries and Bass so much and trying to squeeze out every little victory. The last part of the season Boston was either winning or barely losing many of their games? For what? To eekk out a few more wins. For what???
Boston should have tanked like Philly and the Bucks did, and increase their chances of getting a top 3 pick. IMO top 3 are on another level from the rest of the players. I do like Smart and Young as players, but Smart and Rondo aren't the best fit. Boston has lost a lot of leverage in trading Rondo. They should have traded Rondo for McElmore and the Kings #8 pick when offered (many rumors/sources) during the season. But Ainge kept holding out for more. Now Rondo may end up leaving for nothing!!! Ainge is a good GM but he has F'ed up the Rondo situation IMO.
Boston has also acquired too many guards. Rondo, Smart, Bradley, Thorton, Young and now Turner. The trade for Zeller and a number 1 was good. I don't mind that Boston has not made any major trades, just to make a trade. They have a ton of assets (picks) in the next 4 years. With a little luck, they could be great. Just not next year.
It will really come down to what they get, if anything for Rondo in the next half of the season. If Rondo does walk for a more ready to contend team or team up with some other stars ect.. and Boston gets nothing in return, they would have let the best player walk for nothing and that will set them back even longer.
Time will tell.
That was a very good summary of their offseason, and future. Too many guards sums up one big problem they have.
Wouldn't boston rather not make the playoffs as an 8 seed and semi tank for young talent? They have some nice young pieces and a boatload of picks, might as well build it up through the draft and be a force in a couple years when teams like Lebron, Brooklyn, Chicago and Miami are going down.
I don't really understand the notion that because they have Rondo, they need to try to win now. Rondo isn't Lebron James. Rondo isn't even a top 5 PG, maybe not even top 10. He can be a valuable player for team in transition because he can make life easier for the young guys, but he isnt a superstar PG that will elevate average talent into a contender. If you can trade him and get a couple more picks, might as well do it.
As a boston fan im content. They are in rebuilding mode. Collecting assets. somthing like 13 1st round picks over the next several years. Next years draft is loaded with big men. They will be in the lottery. Bright future for the celtics.
trade rondo for more young pieces/picks and enjoy the development.
They should trade Rondo for young pieces/picks. They have a solid back court that can grow and they could do with a starting SF and C. This draft has depth at both positions so they should get in a position to make a play at them.
From there depth is the key, starting with James Young on the bench or even he could become that SF.
They are in the horrible position like Indiana was fighting for an 8 seed or late lottery and it was painful. If they just go into rebuild mode then at least they have direction.