[publius2481Participant]

 Both Boston and Philly have stockpiled draft picks, but whose would you prefer? First, what each has gained or dealt away:

Boston: 

2016 first round: Brooklyn, Mavs (top 7 protected, so likely to be received), Minnesota (unlikely to be received)

2016 second round: Philly, Minnesota (likely), Miami, Cleveland, Dallas or Memphis (whichever is higher), but traded their own pick

2017 first round: right to swap with Brooklyn

2017 second round: Cleveland, Clippers, Minnesota (likely), would lose their second rounder if they exercise their swap rights with the Nets

2018 first round: Brooklyn, Memphis (unlikely to be conveyed until 2019 at the earliest)

2019 second round: Detroit

2020 second round: Miami

Philadelphia:

2016 first round: Lakers (top 3 protected), Miami (top ten protected, likely to be conveyed), OKC (top 15 protectd, likely to be conveyed), swap right with Sacramento (protected 11-30)

2016 second round: Denver, but traded their own pick

2017 first round: possible swap rights with Sacramento (unlikely to exist)

2018 first round: Sacramento (protected 1-10, unprotected in 2019)

2018 second round: Brooklyn or Cleveland (whichever is higher), Clippers or Knicks (whichever is higher)

2019 second round: Milwaukee or Sacramento (whichever is higher). Knicks

2020 second round: Brooklyn, Knicks

2021 second round: Knicks

I personally think Boston’s stockpile is better. The Nets picks might be three top-five pick in a row. The Memphis pick might be top ten as well (my guess is they will be rebuilding by then), although that is much less likely. The Lakers pick is the only good one I see for Philly. The Sacremento pick could be good, but they have an ownership that might spend to preven them handing over a top 5 pick. What does everyone else think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I would personally take Boston.  They already have a legit team.  Will be getting potentially 3 top 10 picks from the Nets if I read above right.  As long as Billy King is around those picks are pure gold for the Celts.  Top that off with them already having good players and making some plus picks already.  And what I consider to be a top 5 coach.  

Philly will need a little luck since technically the Lakers odds are better for keeping their pick than conveying it.  Even if only small.  Embiid won’t have played 1 NBA game until his 3rd season.  Which assuming all goes gravy for him there will still be at least what you could expect out of a normal rookie learning curve.  Who knows how well Saric game will translate, but even if that goes alright they have alot of position redundancies already, no matter how different the players are.

I think it’s a pretty simple choice.  They are complete opposite which is crazy considering they started their rebuild at about the same time.  Celtics almost have too many NBA rotation players and the 76ers have no more than a handful.  

What would be nice is some consolidation.  I’d love to see Okafor on the Celtics and I’m sure Philly would take more picks.  

Okafor is a legit scoring option in the half court and wouldn’t really get in the way of what the current Celtics do I don’t think.  And the Celts already good perimeter defenders which would help hide Okafor on defense a bit.  It would give them another dimension without taking away what they are already good at.

 

 

 

 

[publius2481Participant]

 I doubt Philly trades Okafor unless Boston MASSIVELY overpaid for him. They appear to view him and Noel as two long-term pieces. 

[publius2481Participant]

 I doubt Philly trades Okafor unless Boston MASSIVELY overpaid for him. They appear to view him and Noel as two long-term pieces. 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I would personally take Boston.  They already have a legit team.  Will be getting potentially 3 top 10 picks from the Nets if I read above right.  As long as Billy King is around those picks are pure gold for the Celts.  Top that off with them already having good players and making some plus picks already.  And what I consider to be a top 5 coach.  

Philly will need a little luck since technically the Lakers odds are better for keeping their pick than conveying it.  Even if only small.  Embiid won’t have played 1 NBA game until his 3rd season.  Which assuming all goes gravy for him there will still be at least what you could expect out of a normal rookie learning curve.  Who knows how well Saric game will translate, but even if that goes alright they have alot of position redundancies already, no matter how different the players are.

I think it’s a pretty simple choice.  They are complete opposite which is crazy considering they started their rebuild at about the same time.  Celtics almost have too many NBA rotation players and the 76ers have no more than a handful.  

What would be nice is some consolidation.  I’d love to see Okafor on the Celtics and I’m sure Philly would take more picks.  

Okafor is a legit scoring option in the half court and wouldn’t really get in the way of what the current Celtics do I don’t think.  And the Celts already good perimeter defenders which would help hide Okafor on defense a bit.  It would give them another dimension without taking away what they are already good at.

 

 

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 The question is really, the Nets’ picks to Boston or the 76ers’ picks plus a high Lakers’ pick.  Philadelphia should have better quality, possibly a top pick, while the Celtics are winning and get to add three Brooklyn picks so they are in a much happier spot right now.

For the question of the better stockpiled picks, 76ers should be ahead.

For the rebuild, Boston is a superstar scoring wing and a tall shotblocker away from being very good.  The 76ers, they need health and lots of guards, and a small forward, and shooting.

With the idea of Okafor going to Boston, he wasn’t a great hit when he was last there.

Boston would be ahead on current roster, team culture, coach, but the 76ers should have picks which are a bit better, and that is because they are in charge of their tank.

 

 

 

 

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

The Celtics are currently very good. And as one of the youngest teams in the league (4th to the Magic, Jazz, and 76ers), they are still improving. 

They have a shot-blocker in Amir Johnson. Stevens and Ainge won’t sacrifice the skill just to get an athlete who can rim run. Johnson has been a good rim protector for them. But if you watch the Celtics play, their on-ball defense and ability to keep drivers out of the paint makes a rim protector less important. 

I agree that they an elite wing scorer might be a missing piece, but it is a missing piece that moves them into contention (assuming they can maintain chemistry). 

 

 

 

 

 

[BrooklynCeltParticipant]

 Sixers should trade Noel to Celtics for Olynyk, Rozier and Young or Jerebko.  Noel is not a good fit with Okafor.

Olynyk could open the floor.  Rozier is better than any PG on the Sixers roster.

[BrooklynCeltParticipant]

 Sixers should trade Noel to Celtics for Olynyk, Rozier and Young or Jerebko.  Noel is not a good fit with Okafor.

Olynyk could open the floor.  Rozier is better than any PG on the Sixers roster.

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

You are talking to the president of the Olynyk fan club. And I am a Celtics fan. 

I am still drinking the koolaid thinking that Olynyk, although he is not an All-star, could become one of the most difficult players in the league to gameplan for. He is a mix of Chandler Parsons and Brad Miller. 

I don’t want to trade him. I want to lock him up for a 5 year 40-50 million dollar contract after his rookie contract is up. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

You are talking to the president of the Olynyk fan club. And I am a Celtics fan. 

I am still drinking the koolaid thinking that Olynyk, although he is not an All-star, could become one of the most difficult players in the league to gameplan for. He is a mix of Chandler Parsons and Brad Miller. 

I don’t want to trade him. I want to lock him up for a 5 year 40-50 million dollar contract after his rookie contract is up. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

The Celtics are currently very good. And as one of the youngest teams in the league (4th to the Magic, Jazz, and 76ers), they are still improving. 

They have a shot-blocker in Amir Johnson. Stevens and Ainge won’t sacrifice the skill just to get an athlete who can rim run. Johnson has been a good rim protector for them. But if you watch the Celtics play, their on-ball defense and ability to keep drivers out of the paint makes a rim protector less important. 

I agree that they an elite wing scorer might be a missing piece, but it is a missing piece that moves them into contention (assuming they can maintain chemistry). 

 

 

 

 

 

[publius2481Participant]

 How long can Philly keep tanking? I think it ends next season because either A.) the young talent they acquire makes them better (not a playoff team, just not a bottom 3 team) or B.) there will be a change in managemnet because the tank is not working.

[publius2481Participant]

 How long can Philly keep tanking? I think it ends next season because either A.) the young talent they acquire makes them better (not a playoff team, just not a bottom 3 team) or B.) there will be a change in managemnet because the tank is not working.

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 The question is really, the Nets’ picks to Boston or the 76ers’ picks plus a high Lakers’ pick.  Philadelphia should have better quality, possibly a top pick, while the Celtics are winning and get to add three Brooklyn picks so they are in a much happier spot right now.

For the question of the better stockpiled picks, 76ers should be ahead.

For the rebuild, Boston is a superstar scoring wing and a tall shotblocker away from being very good.  The 76ers, they need health and lots of guards, and a small forward, and shooting.

With the idea of Okafor going to Boston, he wasn’t a great hit when he was last there.

Boston would be ahead on current roster, team culture, coach, but the 76ers should have picks which are a bit better, and that is because they are in charge of their tank.

 

 

 

 

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

Boston is in a better spot now, but Philly has the edge in several years from now.

Bottom line is- you need great players to contend. Assuming that in order to win it all, you need 3 players in the top 25-30, Boston is overachieving and a goodfeel story but we shouldn’t get stuck in the feel of the moment. C’s are in a good place to trade for superstar talent. But I still think Sixers have more chips. Philly has 3 players (Noel, Jah & Embiid) that if all goes right should be better than anyone Boston currently has on their roster. Even though they probably won’t all stay on the roster by then, they’re super assets.

As long as Hinkie doesn’t get fired by then…

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

Boston is in a better spot now, but Philly has the edge in several years from now.

Bottom line is- you need great players to contend. Assuming that in order to win it all, you need 3 players in the top 25-30, Boston is overachieving and a goodfeel story but we shouldn’t get stuck in the feel of the moment. C’s are in a good place to trade for superstar talent. But I still think Sixers have more chips. Philly has 3 players (Noel, Jah & Embiid) that if all goes right should be better than anyone Boston currently has on their roster. Even though they probably won’t all stay on the roster by then, they’re super assets.

As long as Hinkie doesn’t get fired by then…

[I am an idiotParticipant]

How can Embiid be better than guys that actually have played in the NBA?

There have been plenty of sure-fire big men in college that have not made the transition. Not to mention if he hasn’t be able to stay healthy enough to get on the court.

  

[I am an idiotParticipant]

How can Embiid be better than guys that actually have played in the NBA?

There have been plenty of sure-fire big men in college that have not made the transition. Not to mention if he hasn’t be able to stay healthy enough to get on the court.

  

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

Nothing is for sure.
But… he’s a hell of a prospect- 7’2, strong like Dwight, with pretty post moves, solid defense & a 3 point shot.
I like all the negativity he’s getting. It’ll make his comeback so much more sweeter.

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

Nothing is for sure.
But… he’s a hell of a prospect- 7’2, strong like Dwight, with pretty post moves, solid defense & a 3 point shot.
I like all the negativity he’s getting. It’ll make his comeback so much more sweeter.

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

I don’t disagree with you. But there are a few questions: 

Does a player become a top 30 player based on talent alone, or are there situations in which a great coach makes players into top 30 players? For example, would Ginobli, Parker, or Leonard have been great players playing for the Kings? I think they still could have been "very good" but would they have been as good, or even top 30? 

On the other hand, how many players had top 30 talent that never panned out? For example, think of Eddy Curry, Andrew Bynum, Kwame Brown, Johnny Flynn, Greg Oden, Michael Beasley, Jeff Green, Andrea Bargnani, Adam Morrison, Tyrus Thomas, etc. I think many of these players could have been top 30 players playing in the right system, coached the right coach, and supported by the right organization. 

Notice also how many of those players were big men. The Sixers are pinning their hopes on three big men that each have huge questions marks (Embiid Injuries, Noel offense, Okafor defense). Big men don’t always work out. 

On the other hand, I might argue that CBS has turned Isaiah Thomas into a top 30 player. If you approach the topic with an unbiased perspective, it’s hard not to think he deserves to be on an Allstar team this year. 

To use NBA 2k terms, if a player has the potential to be a 95, but can only actually become an 80, is that really better than a player who only has the potential to be an 85, but actually becomes 85? 

Probably the prime example of this was the Pistons in the mid 2000s. They obtained a top 30 talent in Rasheed, but when they got Ben, Hamilton, Prince, and Billups, they weren’t top 30 players. But in that system, with their coach, and supported by their organization, 4 of the 5 became All-stars. 

I might also add that the Celtics are the 4th youngest team in the NBA, and they are still winning a lot of games. I don’t think we can assume that they are all near their potential, especially considering the way that CBS has developed Bradley over the past 3 years. Crowder and Thomas are playing the best basketball of his career, but I think they will get more consistent and efficient. Olynyk, Sullinger, Young, Rozier, Hunter, Zeller, and Mickey are all on rookie contracts. Zeller might have reached the player he can be in the league, but the rest of them are still developing.

In the perfect situation, Noel, Embiid, and Okafor might all develop into top 30 players in the league (or even top 10). But Sullinger, Olynyk, Rozier, and Hunter might also develop into top 30 players in the perfect situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

I don’t disagree with you. But there are a few questions: 

Does a player become a top 30 player based on talent alone, or are there situations in which a great coach makes players into top 30 players? For example, would Ginobli, Parker, or Leonard have been great players playing for the Kings? I think they still could have been "very good" but would they have been as good, or even top 30? 

On the other hand, how many players had top 30 talent that never panned out? For example, think of Eddy Curry, Andrew Bynum, Kwame Brown, Johnny Flynn, Greg Oden, Michael Beasley, Jeff Green, Andrea Bargnani, Adam Morrison, Tyrus Thomas, etc. I think many of these players could have been top 30 players playing in the right system, coached the right coach, and supported by the right organization. 

Notice also how many of those players were big men. The Sixers are pinning their hopes on three big men that each have huge questions marks (Embiid Injuries, Noel offense, Okafor defense). Big men don’t always work out. 

On the other hand, I might argue that CBS has turned Isaiah Thomas into a top 30 player. If you approach the topic with an unbiased perspective, it’s hard not to think he deserves to be on an Allstar team this year. 

To use NBA 2k terms, if a player has the potential to be a 95, but can only actually become an 80, is that really better than a player who only has the potential to be an 85, but actually becomes 85? 

Probably the prime example of this was the Pistons in the mid 2000s. They obtained a top 30 talent in Rasheed, but when they got Ben, Hamilton, Prince, and Billups, they weren’t top 30 players. But in that system, with their coach, and supported by their organization, 4 of the 5 became All-stars. 

I might also add that the Celtics are the 4th youngest team in the NBA, and they are still winning a lot of games. I don’t think we can assume that they are all near their potential, especially considering the way that CBS has developed Bradley over the past 3 years. Crowder and Thomas are playing the best basketball of his career, but I think they will get more consistent and efficient. Olynyk, Sullinger, Young, Rozier, Hunter, Zeller, and Mickey are all on rookie contracts. Zeller might have reached the player he can be in the league, but the rest of them are still developing.

In the perfect situation, Noel, Embiid, and Okafor might all develop into top 30 players in the league (or even top 10). But Sullinger, Olynyk, Rozier, and Hunter might also develop into top 30 players in the perfect situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

 And I didn’t even mention our 6th pick in 2014, Marcus Smart

[treytalkssports.comParticipant]

 And I didn’t even mention our 6th pick in 2014, Marcus Smart

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

That’s a very good point you make. But notice how I said "if all goes right". If it doesn’t neither them nor the C’s have a real chance of winning a championship. What I’m saying is not against Boston – I really like their team – It’s to point out that at the end of the day you need both talent & chemistry. Boston has chemistry; Philly is closer to the talent part. It seems to me that it’s easier to get the right parts to fill the superstar talent than to bring in superstar talent after having chemistry (and keeping that chemistry)… but, we’ll wait and see which technique is more successful.

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

That’s a very good point you make. But notice how I said "if all goes right". If it doesn’t neither them nor the C’s have a real chance of winning a championship. What I’m saying is not against Boston – I really like their team – It’s to point out that at the end of the day you need both talent & chemistry. Boston has chemistry; Philly is closer to the talent part. It seems to me that it’s easier to get the right parts to fill the superstar talent than to bring in superstar talent after having chemistry (and keeping that chemistry)… but, we’ll wait and see which technique is more successful.

[mgreener_34Participant]

 This is where I have to disagree. Ebiib hasn’t played basketball in 2 years, and we may never see him play, so I don’t think he’s worth mentioning right now. Even if he does come back, that only guarantee’s that one of either Noel, Embiid, or Okafor is going to have to get traded, because for some reason I don’t see PHI paying max money to 3 centers, so you are basically comparing 2 prospects and potential picks to what the Celtics have done. 

Celtics have just as good of picks as the 76’ers do. BRK is going no where fast, and their best player is Thadeus Young or Brook Lopez. 

On top of that I think the Celtics prospects, while not as alluring as PHI, are still solid. Smart/Olynyk/Sully is a decent young core to build around as BOS looks to make a playoff push. Smart is hands-down a top 10 perimeter defender in the L, Sully is a walking double-double, and Olynyk is well, Olynyk. These guys all have potential to be starters or elite bench players on a winning team, and I’m fine with that. The rookies we drafted this year all have promise as well. 

I also like the veterans of the team in Jae Crowder/Bradley/IT who are all long term pieces. All of them would find a role on a championship team, and AB and IT are some of the best role-players at their position.

Avery this year is averaging 16/3/2/1.7 on 46/43/78 shooing %, and has a DRtg of 102…He’s playing like a top 10 SG this year, and is only 25 years old, and on one of the better contracts in the league. 

If you take that core of Smart/Sully/Olynyk and mix them with IT/Bradley/Crowder you have a fantastic base to build upon, which quite frankly, is better than what the Sixers have in Noel and Okafor. This is where the picks come in. PHI still has to actually build a team and culture before they become anything in this league, while the Celtics already have that. 

Celtics will have just as many picks, just as much cap space, and will have just as much trading power as the 76’ers. Celtics just need to continue improving internally, and try and land a top player to rally around. Add that player to the Celtics, and they take off. Add that player to the Sixers, and you’re still fighting for last place. 

Thats why I prefer the Celtics right now, because our picks actually mean more for us than the picks to the 76’ers, who still need to actually put a team together. 

[mgreener_34Participant]

 This is where I have to disagree. Ebiib hasn’t played basketball in 2 years, and we may never see him play, so I don’t think he’s worth mentioning right now. Even if he does come back, that only guarantee’s that one of either Noel, Embiid, or Okafor is going to have to get traded, because for some reason I don’t see PHI paying max money to 3 centers, so you are basically comparing 2 prospects and potential picks to what the Celtics have done. 

Celtics have just as good of picks as the 76’ers do. BRK is going no where fast, and their best player is Thadeus Young or Brook Lopez. 

On top of that I think the Celtics prospects, while not as alluring as PHI, are still solid. Smart/Olynyk/Sully is a decent young core to build around as BOS looks to make a playoff push. Smart is hands-down a top 10 perimeter defender in the L, Sully is a walking double-double, and Olynyk is well, Olynyk. These guys all have potential to be starters or elite bench players on a winning team, and I’m fine with that. The rookies we drafted this year all have promise as well. 

I also like the veterans of the team in Jae Crowder/Bradley/IT who are all long term pieces. All of them would find a role on a championship team, and AB and IT are some of the best role-players at their position.

Avery this year is averaging 16/3/2/1.7 on 46/43/78 shooing %, and has a DRtg of 102…He’s playing like a top 10 SG this year, and is only 25 years old, and on one of the better contracts in the league. 

If you take that core of Smart/Sully/Olynyk and mix them with IT/Bradley/Crowder you have a fantastic base to build upon, which quite frankly, is better than what the Sixers have in Noel and Okafor. This is where the picks come in. PHI still has to actually build a team and culture before they become anything in this league, while the Celtics already have that. 

Celtics will have just as many picks, just as much cap space, and will have just as much trading power as the 76’ers. Celtics just need to continue improving internally, and try and land a top player to rally around. Add that player to the Celtics, and they take off. Add that player to the Sixers, and you’re still fighting for last place. 

Thats why I prefer the Celtics right now, because our picks actually mean more for us than the picks to the 76’ers, who still need to actually put a team together. 

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

It’s easier to get role players than it is to get superstar talent. This is the basis to Sam Hinkie’s philosophy.

Usually superstar FA’s will join other superstars. This being said If Boston manages to get Cousins + keep their chemistry going, they’ll need to get at least 1 other star before they can really contend against Cavs, Warriors, Spurs & OKC.

As for Philly, they won’t keep 3 centers at the end. They’re 3 assets in Hinkie’s eyes. So it’s silly to look at this team as if it’s even trying to be a complete product. If you want to criticise SH for that, that’s a whole different story. But, as far as assets go, they are 3 tremendous assets. Look at what SH got for a mediocre asset like MCW and imagine what teams will be willing to give for Okafor or Noel (even though I personally hope it’s Okafor that moves and not Noel).

It isn’t true that “Celtics will have just as much cap space”- Not that it will mean as much in the next few years because of the rising caps, but next year Sixers have 19 mil less than C’s in salary obligation.

Final point- obviously I prefer the Celtics right now, but, I’d put my money on Philly for a better chance to become great.

[BubbaChuckParticipant]

It’s easier to get role players than it is to get superstar talent. This is the basis to Sam Hinkie’s philosophy.

Usually superstar FA’s will join other superstars. This being said If Boston manages to get Cousins + keep their chemistry going, they’ll need to get at least 1 other star before they can really contend against Cavs, Warriors, Spurs & OKC.

As for Philly, they won’t keep 3 centers at the end. They’re 3 assets in Hinkie’s eyes. So it’s silly to look at this team as if it’s even trying to be a complete product. If you want to criticise SH for that, that’s a whole different story. But, as far as assets go, they are 3 tremendous assets. Look at what SH got for a mediocre asset like MCW and imagine what teams will be willing to give for Okafor or Noel (even though I personally hope it’s Okafor that moves and not Noel).

It isn’t true that “Celtics will have just as much cap space”- Not that it will mean as much in the next few years because of the rising caps, but next year Sixers have 19 mil less than C’s in salary obligation.

Final point- obviously I prefer the Celtics right now, but, I’d put my money on Philly for a better chance to become great.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 NEITHER the Celtics or Sixers have a LEGIT superstar on the roster.  

So, whoever gets one first wins…

The C’s and the Sixers could each get on in this draft.  Or, only one team does.  Likely too, NEITHER end up with a superstar and a guy like Ben Simmons goes to the Lakers.

I WILL take the Celtics’ SUPERSTAR coach, front office, and historical legacy.  

The Sixers have NONE of that…

Remains to be seen if the Sixers have a core like Olynyk and Smart, even if I don’t think either will be league MVP, and I DO really like Jahlil Okafor.

The C’s are ahead in a lot of areas, and actually have better draft picks for the future (depending on how the 2016 draft shakes up).

I ALSO see the Celtics better able to get free agents, although (historically) Boston is a bad free agent destination.  I could see that changing though, with their solid FO, young, energetic roster, and GREAT coach.  So, expectations are lower, and the upside is HIGHER.  Still a big market without being a HUGE, suffocating market like NYC or LA.  

Right now, the Sixers are POISON.  Yeah, that can all change with one bounce of the ping pong balls.  BUT, if they end up with the 4th pick and their is NO TALENT there, then they will really be a franchise in a mess.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 NEITHER the Celtics or Sixers have a LEGIT superstar on the roster.  

So, whoever gets one first wins…

The C’s and the Sixers could each get on in this draft.  Or, only one team does.  Likely too, NEITHER end up with a superstar and a guy like Ben Simmons goes to the Lakers.

I WILL take the Celtics’ SUPERSTAR coach, front office, and historical legacy.  

The Sixers have NONE of that…

Remains to be seen if the Sixers have a core like Olynyk and Smart, even if I don’t think either will be league MVP, and I DO really like Jahlil Okafor.

The C’s are ahead in a lot of areas, and actually have better draft picks for the future (depending on how the 2016 draft shakes up).

I ALSO see the Celtics better able to get free agents, although (historically) Boston is a bad free agent destination.  I could see that changing though, with their solid FO, young, energetic roster, and GREAT coach.  So, expectations are lower, and the upside is HIGHER.  Still a big market without being a HUGE, suffocating market like NYC or LA.  

Right now, the Sixers are POISON.  Yeah, that can all change with one bounce of the ping pong balls.  BUT, if they end up with the 4th pick and their is NO TALENT there, then they will really be a franchise in a mess.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Boston are further along in the rebuild and if they get lucky with one of the Nets picks they could be well on the way plus they are in a far better place to land a top FA.

Philly have a couple of star players possibly in place but need to start turning picks and prospects into something on court before long.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Boston are further along in the rebuild and if they get lucky with one of the Nets picks they could be well on the way plus they are in a far better place to land a top FA.

Philly have a couple of star players possibly in place but need to start turning picks and prospects into something on court before long.

 

[markfitz14Participant]

 I really like where Boston is at. Great young team and lots of picks coming for the NEXT 3 years! Even if the Nets get better the Celts will still be picking up very good picks from them. The Nets will sign fringe Veterans that want to get paid. They wont stay bottom 3 in the league next year or the year after. Might not make the playoffs but they will be better.

  They could keep developing guys getting ready for a trade for someone for another 5 years with all the young guys. Or just keep taking the draft pick and see if the guy develops into a star. No rush becuase they are competing now anyway.

 

Stars do win Championships. It’s about having that go to top player in the league guy. The 76ers do have a really good shot at that happening. Embid can still be that guy. Then they have a top pick this year and definetely next year which will be a good draft. They could have Simmons, Josh Jackson, Embid and Oakafor all on the same team. They may be worried about how to pay all these studs on the same team. 

Or even worst case Ingram, Tatum, Embid and Oakafor. So the 76ers will be getting better talent this year and next year most likley than the Celts. They will have to have time to develop though.

 

 

 

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 I really like where Boston is at. Great young team and lots of picks coming for the NEXT 3 years! Even if the Nets get better the Celts will still be picking up very good picks from them. The Nets will sign fringe Veterans that want to get paid. They wont stay bottom 3 in the league next year or the year after. Might not make the playoffs but they will be better.

  They could keep developing guys getting ready for a trade for someone for another 5 years with all the young guys. Or just keep taking the draft pick and see if the guy develops into a star. No rush becuase they are competing now anyway.

 

Stars do win Championships. It’s about having that go to top player in the league guy. The 76ers do have a really good shot at that happening. Embid can still be that guy. Then they have a top pick this year and definetely next year which will be a good draft. They could have Simmons, Josh Jackson, Embid and Oakafor all on the same team. They may be worried about how to pay all these studs on the same team. 

Or even worst case Ingram, Tatum, Embid and Oakafor. So the 76ers will be getting better talent this year and next year most likley than the Celts. They will have to have time to develop though.

 

 

 

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