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  • #40272
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    AJM02
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     Should the Bobcat trade down and get multiple picks? If they do trade down should they draft Lillard?

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  • #681978
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    Moon River
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    They are not going to get the big impact player they need at #2.  They either need to trade down for multiple picks, or do what is being reported on CBS, that they should look to use the pick and players to trade for a bonafide impact player.  The name CBS is mentioning is James Harden.

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  • #681981
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    AJM02
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     James Harden?!?! The Thunder are in the NBA Finals why would they trade one of their "Big Three" Members?! Theres NO PLAYER in this draft that can give 3/4 of an effect as Harden. 

    (Can you post a link?)

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  • #681983
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    If they can get Portland to bite then do it.  6 has just as much potential as 2 in this draft.  11 will be a very good add.  If I am the Bobs I would definitely look to do that and expect to be in the high lotto again next year with a chance at #1.  If they could a star next year in the draft, they are in business. 

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  • #681984
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    Moon River
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  • #681987
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    Tyrober
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     Robinson has a good chance to become a star. If Aldridge wouldn’t mind playing Center I would do #6 and #11 for the #2. Is Robinson better than having Drummond and Lamb or Lillard and Lamb/Rivers? Maybe not, but does Portland want to add 2 rookies to their team?

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  • #681990
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    bloodshy
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    Many people agree that there’s little difference between the #2 and the #6 pick in this draft.  However, it’s possible that one of the top 6 players could still be available at 7 or 8.  The Bobcats probably don’t want to trade down to these slots though just in case the crop of 2-6 players are all gone at 7.

    One option could be for the Bobcats to pick Barnes or MKG and make a trade for the player the Warriors pick at #7 (only if Beal, Drummond or Robinson is still on the board) + receive the #30 and #35 picks from GS.  This could make sense for GS since they desperately need a 3 and Barnes/MKG are almost certain to be off the board by 7.  If the Bobcats can process it in this manner, ensuring one of their targetted players are still there before making the exchange, I think it would make sense for both teams.

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  • #682011
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    The Bobcats only trade the number 2 pick if they feel that they can get the same value later in the lottery, but if they feel that way there is a good chance another team will feel that way as well. A trade could happen if Golden State, Cleveland, or Portland, or some other team with a high trade pick and additional leverage makes an offer because they are in love with Thomas Robinson or MKG and don’t believe they’ll be available at their pick.

    I doubt the Bobcats can get back what they’d want in a deal I can see Golden State of Cleveland trade their two number ones but I doubt Portland gives up their two lottery picks.

     

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  • #682080
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    FUNKYBUNCH
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    but he’s not going anywhere. 

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  • #682099
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    GoJOSH HUESTIS
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    Why even trade at all. Bad move by them and fans that think they should. Lets look at reality, they are not going to be relevant for a couple of seasons so since that is the case and they wont be able to trade for a young franchise changer they need to just build through the draft just like OKC did. If you can trade the the number 2 pick for multiple first round picks then that would make sense. Trading for Harden would make no sense because although Harden is good the bobcats would still be a loooong ways from coming close to making the playoffs

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  • #682115
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    hooverball
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    After the athleticism results I think Barnes is a no brainer for the Bobcats. He has the strength of Robinson (bench), I believe he has the best sprint time in the combine, the highest standing vertical, one of the the highest few for max vert and solid agility numbers. You put this with his 6-8 230 frame and you have one hell of a SF.

    If the bobcats could pull off a sign and trade of DJ Augustine along with Corey Maggette to bring in Paul Millsap who should be on the block (may have to take back Raja Bell and give up a couple 2nd Rounders to make it all work, SF and PG our UT’s weakest postions). Starting Lineup:

    PG Walker

    SG Henderson

    SF Barnes

    PF Millsap

    C Biyombo

    That is 4 players in the starting lineup that can/have been 15+ PPG and three young players with great upside: Barnes, Walker & Biyombo.

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  • #682118
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    I kind of agree with you. But you don’t pick Barnes just because of his combine results. You just ignore that fact that in a REAL game he isn’t that fast nor does he jump that high. Theres a difference between combine test and if you use that baility in a game (Barnes does not) O.J mayo jumped 40 or 41 but you don’t see him flying in for dunks. Durants bench, shuttle time, sprint vert were all unimpressive but he uses those things differently in a game, in away where you never question his athletic ability or foot speed.  I would pick MKG or Robinson over Barnes because imo they both have higher motors as well as being skilled (and MKG is a year and a half younger) but if Barnes went their that’s also not a bad pick. Doubt it happens though because right now they are said to be deciding between MKG,TRob or trading the pick.

     

    Also you will NEVER get Millsap for Dj and Maggette. Not even close. Harris can already do what D.J can do and he is clearly not the answer long term. Maggette needs the ball a lot to even be kind of effective and it only shows in his stats but doesn’t lead to wins. Millsap didn’t make the AllStar team but he is a allstar talent and you don’t trade that for two off the bench  blah blah players

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    • #682201
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      You do if it balances your roster. Jefferson, Favors & Kanter are the long term frontcourt for Utah. Augustine is younger than Harris giving him a better potential for improvement and this gives UT compettition at point guard which should drive both players. This would be an opportunity to get rid of a disgruntled Raja Bell and pick up a couple of picks for a player you need to move to let the future happen. It might take a 1st rounder to get done, but don’t sleep on Maggette. He is better than people give him credit for. He could be a solid contributor for a UT team looking to get into the play offs. If he is your 3rd or 4th option you are doing alright.

      Either way, I think trading their pick would be a bonehead move unless they can bring in a James Harden which i doubt. Add a nice young piece, have aother loosing season, add another piece next year and let your game changing talent already in the fold (Walker & Biyombo) mature.

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  • #682308
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    I would love for the Bobcats to trade down(giving up #2 and the 1st 2nd round pick) for 1st Portland 1st rounders (6&11)or Houston 1st rounders (14&16)…….if possible, two plans

    Portland would get their guy at #2 (IDK who) and then have the 1st 2nd round pick, Bobcats get the #6&#11 and the 41st pic – Bobcats could get (My picks would be) #6Barnes, Beal or Zeller – #11 (trade to Houston for #14&#16 if possible) but gunning for Henson, Marshall or even Fab Melo – #41pick (IDK)

    Houston would get thier guy at #2 and Bobcats have the #14&#16, and still keep the 1st pick of the 2nd round – Bobcats could get (My picks would be)  #14 Henson or Marshall (Lamb) and #16 I would reach for Fab Melo – my first 2nd round pic would be Jones or that Mich.St guy lol

    If Im the Bobcats Im looking to trade the pic to get a big guy that can play D really well or Off really well and I know they can get that with Zeller, Melo or even Henson. but I would also take a floor general like Marshall or maybe an athletic wing like Lamb (Uconn’s) with these 2 pick b/c they would be lucky to get Barnes or Beal at #6 and Zeller at #11, #14 or #16……….

    so realistically I think if the Bobcats to get either 2 picks of Houston or Portland, I think they should get Marshall 1st and then take Henson or Fab Melo, but Im starting to think that Henson and Marshall will both got in the top12 picks….which would be bad for the Bobcats but then they could get Melo and D. Lamb lol, but they got to have another big guy

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