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- Posted on: Fri, 10/28/2016 - 7:19am #65199
SlickBouncePassParticipantWatching Portland, Dame Lillard puts up bad shots towards the end of the game. He has great athleticism, but that can be a strength and a weakness.
I think they need a post-up scorer that would go great with their guards, Lillard, McCollum, Crabbe, even Harkless.
I propose:
Sixers Trade: Jahlil Okafor, Jerami Grant
Sixers Receive: Al Faruq Aminu, Noah Vonleh
I think this helps the Blazers more than the Sixers, but the Blazers could use the low post scoring, and the Sixers could use some role players with all around ability and also clears up some space and cap room to sign free agent shooters like Reddick in teh summer. I love Aminus all around game and defense. Vonleh is potential and solid backup, and the blazers have Plumlee and have Turner and Crabbe to take Aminu’s hybrid minutes away.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/28/2016 - 7:44am #1087776
dazeoneParticipantWhy not Ask for LeBron James too for a bag of Buffalo nickels….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/28/2016 - 8:08am #1087778
MatosParticipantNot too high on Aminu or Vonleh. Sixers should consider keeping Okafor if he pairs nicely with Embiid. Noel can go. Even if no takers, I’d rather let Noel walk in Free Agency than give up Jahlil for those guys.
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/28/2016 - 10:27am #1087786
SlickBouncePassParticipanthad one of the worst plus minuses in the league last season, granted he played on the 10-win Sixers, but his defense is really bad. I don’t see him playing with Embiid, and we are already deep with Noel and Holmes.
Aminu is a really good all around ballplayer, he’s more of a sureshot than anyone on the squad besides Embiid. He’s a very good defender. He easily replaces Grant. One of the more underrated guys in the elague.
Noel is just I have no clue whats going on there. I’d much rather trade Noel obviously than just let him walk. You could get solid role player for Noel I’d do it.
But i’d side defense over offense for the Sixers. Noel is a very good defender and I like him in that backup role, I just don’t think I’d ever pay him starter money. Its easier to find good offense than good defense.
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/28/2016 - 8:22am #1087780
SeBirschingParticipantExplain to me again why the 76ers would even consider giving Okafor and Grant to Portland. I get it, the 76ers are bad, but they aren’t a charity.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/28/2016 - 9:37am #1087785
SubZeroParticipantLooking past Okafor’s value, I don’t think Philly would/should give up Jerami Grant. He’s a great high energy, athletic plug off the bench that has the ability to change the momentum of a game
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/28/2016 - 2:13pm #1087794
Jr. ROXASParticipantIf that means taking Plumlee’s minutes away, then no way am I doing it. Plumlee is one of the most valuable but underrated centers in the NBA. He acts as the 3rd PG for the Blazers, and when he gets the ball in the pick and roll he always finds the open man or just goes strong for the finish.
He’s what Bogut was to GSW last season, but with more durability and the ability to hande the break. He makes the game a lot easier for Lillard and CJ.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/28/2016 - 2:25pm #1087796
Hype MachinePeople just dont realise the negative impact a no-defense bigman who clogs the paint can be.
People always say, "player x makes his team bettter’.
Well then someone who makes life harder for team mates shouldnt be discounted either.
How the hell are you meant to get a layup, or make a backdoor cut to the hoop with Okafor and his 7’0" defender in the way.
Thats why his +/- is legit the worst of any player in history.
0- Posted on: Sat, 10/29/2016 - 6:03am #1087816
SpartanGloryParticipantSo you don’t think the fact that he was on a team built to "tank" has anything to do with that? He’s going to be in the minus by default because they lost so many games. If you want a good measure of a player’s +/- you need to measure in at least a somewhat average environment. I can tell that you haven’t watched the Sixers with the Embiid/Okafor combo on the floor. They look like they could be really good together with Embiid’s floor stretching ability.
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/29/2016 - 6:44am #1087818
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantFirst, Okafor WOULD BE a great fit on the Blazers but your not giving up any thing of value in the trade you suggested, Oak has too much value in this instance…
Second, 76ers have their own younger/cheaper version of Aminu in Jerami Grant, so that’s compiles the problem I have in you offer…If you suggested Crabbe and Leonard for Okafor and for 2nd round picks I’d listen to an offer. ..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/29/2016 - 7:54am #1087822
BeastMode716ParticipantI suppose Noel may APPEAR to LOOK like a good defender when you pair him with the Worst group of defensive players in NBA history
But Noel is not even a Back up in the NBA. He gets 1 or 2 off ball blocks a game in help defense & gives you Nothing else
And don’t talk to me about steals b/c guys go for steals b/c they know they will be Mauled if their man posts them up so they try jump the passing routs
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/29/2016 - 10:27am #1087831
MopgrassParticipantThe Sixers trading a big guy for Crabbe or McCollum (less likely) makes sense for the Sixers. Even then, the Blazers might be satisfied with their guard trio.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 10/31/2016 - 5:10am #1087876
bdiddy5115ParticipantI’d think Philly would want Crabbe back at the least. He seems like he could fit pretty well with his size, stroke from the 2 spot on Philly.
Ideally they’d want McCollum, but he seems close to untouchable for Portland right now — which I think is wrong because I think a team that builds around 2 ball-dominant guards has a ceiling, no matter how explosive they are. If they could get a star big or wing back, I think he should be available. But I wouldn’t trade him for Okafor or Noel.
Portland has a few too many wings right now, and probably has a little too much money allocated to them.
Okafor & Henderson for Crabbe & Vonleh?
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Can you imagine Philly next year if they get LA’s pick (around 5)?
C Joel Embiid
C/PF Nerlens Noel
PF/SF Ben Simmons
PF/SF Dario Saric
SF Jayson Tatum (#5ish pick – LAL)
SG/SF Timothe Luwawu
SG Allen Crabbe
PG Dennis Smith Jr. (Top-2 pick)
+ PF/C R.Holmes, SF Covington, PF Vonleh, PG Rodriguez, PF/SF J.Grant
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/01/2016 - 11:14am #1087911
dobbins66ParticipantGrant just went to OKC instead…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 11/02/2016 - 2:35am #1087935
binetParticipantI think the blazers will wait until about 20 games into the season for that kind of trade.
I also think any team asking for Jahlil Okafor will probably wait for him to fully recover from his injury.
There are multiple other team that can get involved in that kind of trade and after a few games some players will become available.
The sixers are probably never trading Jah for a player that is not going to start there, which is not a high bar, but a bar that Al-Farouk Aminu does not pass, mostly because he is a 4, with Simmons and Saric he would be 2nd to third option there, and the Ilyasova trade makes it even more absurd. At the 3 spot he would not fit as he has shown during his career, and Robert Covington, even if he is not elite,might start over him being younger, more familiar with the team and very similar. Noah Vonley is trash.
If Portland trades for a big, I guess their target will probably end up being Demarcus Cousins, costier but probably worth spennding a real asset like McCollum which is required. A 3 team trade with Philly is possible, Sacramento getting sme number of picks from Portland and Okafor plus their pick swap from this year’s draft from Philly, Philly getting McCollum, and Portland getting Cousins, plus several moves to make the money work. Sixers are probably giving up minor assets like the Thunder pick(s) they just acquired or Furkan Korkmaz in the process.
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