[lalailaParticipant]

you can hate him, but he is making his case for the best PF in a game..he is much improved player this year and CP3 injury let him shine..

not only he is around 24ppg 10rpg 3.5apg on a season but his previous 10gms he is sick 29ppg 8rpg 4apg and since Paul got injured Clippers still wins at almost the same ratio..

he isn’t K-Love shooter, but he starts to shoot some J’s and even 3’s he may started to realize he has to be more aggresive and he is still easily the most athletic and with the best handles power  forward in a game..

 

how about his 43/15/6 tonight?

[Sewok15Participant]

He played great but they lost. That game was a dunkfest…I only watched about 5 minutes of it and saw 4 crazy dunks. If Griffin were a better defender I might be inclined to put him up with the elite of the elite PF’s but even with his improved assertiveness offensively I would still prefer others like Love, Aldridge and even Anthony Davis. Griffin is certainly the most fun to watch though.

[Sewok15Participant]

He played great but they lost. That game was a dunkfest…I only watched about 5 minutes of it and saw 4 crazy dunks. If Griffin were a better defender I might be inclined to put him up with the elite of the elite PF’s but even with his improved assertiveness offensively I would still prefer others like Love, Aldridge and even Anthony Davis. Griffin is certainly the most fun to watch though.

[MysterionParticipant]

How can you say defense is holding him back from being elite when you put Kevin Love in the elite group?

[MysterionParticipant]

How can you say defense is holding him back from being elite when you put Kevin Love in the elite group?

[TEQU1LAParticipant]

 Yup, Blake has without question elevated his game and there’s no doubt he’s right there with Love and Aldridge as the best PF in the game convo. Dude, is in beast mode right now and is keeping the Clips competitive without their best player on the court.

[TEQU1LAParticipant]

 Yup, Blake has without question elevated his game and there’s no doubt he’s right there with Love and Aldridge as the best PF in the game convo. Dude, is in beast mode right now and is keeping the Clips competitive without their best player on the court.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

We’d have seen this from Blake Griffin a lot earlier had Chris Paul not been traded to the Clippers. I felt before Paul got there, Griffin was showing signs of being able to do this. I feel Paul has stunted his growth as a player. Due to his overdribbling and ball dominant ways, he turned Griffin into basically just a guy who does P&R/P&P. 

Once Paul returns, he needs to learn to play off of Griffin. The offense should be ran through Griffin, not Paul. 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

We’d have seen this from Blake Griffin a lot earlier had Chris Paul not been traded to the Clippers. I felt before Paul got there, Griffin was showing signs of being able to do this. I feel Paul has stunted his growth as a player. Due to his overdribbling and ball dominant ways, he turned Griffin into basically just a guy who does P&R/P&P. 

Once Paul returns, he needs to learn to play off of Griffin. The offense should be ran through Griffin, not Paul. 

 

[machu46Participant]

I disagree that the offensive shouldn’t be run through Paul, but I think they’re definitely a tandem that can work together better than they have in the past.  That sequence last night where Collison or Crawford drove and dished to Griffin and Griffin then basically did a touch-pass lob to DeAndre for the alley-oop…stuff like that could be absolutely deadly with CP3 running the show.

Having a guard that can run things as well as CP3 while also being a very good shooter, as well as having a big man as skilled as Griffin that can get his own shot or set teammates up is just a crazy combination to have.  If Doc can figure out a way to use both to the best of their abilities, the Clippers are going to be a really dangerous team in the playoffs.

 

[machu46Participant]

I disagree that the offensive shouldn’t be run through Paul, but I think they’re definitely a tandem that can work together better than they have in the past.  That sequence last night where Collison or Crawford drove and dished to Griffin and Griffin then basically did a touch-pass lob to DeAndre for the alley-oop…stuff like that could be absolutely deadly with CP3 running the show.

Having a guard that can run things as well as CP3 while also being a very good shooter, as well as having a big man as skilled as Griffin that can get his own shot or set teammates up is just a crazy combination to have.  If Doc can figure out a way to use both to the best of their abilities, the Clippers are going to be a really dangerous team in the playoffs.

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

The plan going into the season (there are plenty of off-season articles) was that Blake Griffin was going to be the focal point of the offense. However, that didn’t happen really until Chris Paul got injured. 

I’m obviously not saying Paul shouldn’t be a focal point of the offense, which would be stupid, but I feel the offense needs to be run primarily through Griffin. He’s either scoring in the low post or getting doubled. And when he’s getting doubled, he’s getting his teammates wide open jumpshots. 

A team with Paul, a 6′ 0" point guard, dominating the ball is predicatable and being their go to everything just about has won nothing. Paul hasn’t won anything his entire career when it matters. It’s time for Paul to take a backseat in the offense to Griffin and learn to play off of him. Paul overdribbling and dominating the ball isn’t going to win them a NBA championship. 

 

 

[Jester87Participant]

I kinda agree, but I also think Blake had already shown big improvements before CP3’s injury. I do believe without Paul he’s allowed to do things he didn’t even try before (one that really impresses me, pushing the fast break after grabbing the defensive rebound, he’s really good at it), but it’s not all about that. He’s being more mature, like yesterday, against the Heat, at one point Oden fouled him really hard, I’m pretty sure last year he would’ve start to whine or he would’ve reacted, instead he just went to the line and kept playing. He’s trying to become really a superstar and he’s also more focused on D (he even guarded LeBron shortly in the 4th quarter).

 

[Jester87Participant]

I kinda agree, but I also think Blake had already shown big improvements before CP3’s injury. I do believe without Paul he’s allowed to do things he didn’t even try before (one that really impresses me, pushing the fast break after grabbing the defensive rebound, he’s really good at it), but it’s not all about that. He’s being more mature, like yesterday, against the Heat, at one point Oden fouled him really hard, I’m pretty sure last year he would’ve start to whine or he would’ve reacted, instead he just went to the line and kept playing. He’s trying to become really a superstar and he’s also more focused on D (he even guarded LeBron shortly in the 4th quarter).

 

[MysterionParticipant]

 Chris Paul is 16th in the NBA in usage rate. Blake Griffin is 17th.  I’d hardly say he’s been dominating the ball.

[MysterionParticipant]

 Chris Paul is 16th in the NBA in usage rate. Blake Griffin is 17th.  I’d hardly say he’s been dominating the ball.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

The plan going into the season (there are plenty of off-season articles) was that Blake Griffin was going to be the focal point of the offense. However, that didn’t happen really until Chris Paul got injured. 

I’m obviously not saying Paul shouldn’t be a focal point of the offense, which would be stupid, but I feel the offense needs to be run primarily through Griffin. He’s either scoring in the low post or getting doubled. And when he’s getting doubled, he’s getting his teammates wide open jumpshots. 

A team with Paul, a 6′ 0" point guard, dominating the ball is predicatable and being their go to everything just about has won nothing. Paul hasn’t won anything his entire career when it matters. It’s time for Paul to take a backseat in the offense to Griffin and learn to play off of him. Paul overdribbling and dominating the ball isn’t going to win them a NBA championship. 

 

 

[jwall1Participant]

I would still take Davis, Aldrige, and Love over him. Davis because of his defense, and the other 2 are just better overall right now.

[jwall1Participant]

I would still take Davis, Aldrige, and Love over him. Davis because of his defense, and the other 2 are just better overall right now.

[clayj44Participant]

 haha funny story about griffin back in his rookie year. I remember I went to the NBA allstar fest in la, and the gm of the clippers came out to talk with the fans. He said and I quote "within the next year I promise that Blake Griffin will be a three point threat by this time next year." Kinda funny to look back on it, but back to the post. I think grifffin as exciting as is, isnt the top pf. He starting to round out his offensive game but defense is where he needs to put in the effort. He has showed that he can put up big time numbers without paul before so this shouldnt be that big of a surprise. 

[clayj44Participant]

 haha funny story about griffin back in his rookie year. I remember I went to the NBA allstar fest in la, and the gm of the clippers came out to talk with the fans. He said and I quote "within the next year I promise that Blake Griffin will be a three point threat by this time next year." Kinda funny to look back on it, but back to the post. I think grifffin as exciting as is, isnt the top pf. He starting to round out his offensive game but defense is where he needs to put in the effort. He has showed that he can put up big time numbers without paul before so this shouldnt be that big of a surprise. 

[t-loveParticipant]

My choice is Anthony Davis for the best though. At 20, he leads the league in blocks, gets in the passing lanes, involves his teammates,  and plays efficiently. Oh and he’s also averaging 20 and 10 with 3.3 blocks, 1.5 steals, and a solid shooting percentage (.518). Sure Love can shoot threes and rebound like a beast, but he is a seive on defense and only shoots 46% from the field and under 40% from deep. Blake is a beast with crazy hops, a great transition game, and an improving midrange and post game, but the defense isn’t nearly at Davis’ level. Davis also is better on the glass, averaging nearly 1 more rebound per game. Griffin puts up 3 more points a game on a slightly better field goal percentage (around 1% better), but Griffin has been the one whos had to carry LA while Paul is out, and I’m afraid hes pretty close to a finished product. Anthony Davis’ potential still seems unlimited. And then there’s Lamarcus Aldridge, who can light it up, albeit while leading the league in field goal attempts (21 per game…. more than KD, Melo, and some other notorious chuckers) and boasting a true shooting percentage 2.1% lower than the league average at his position and actually below the average for every other position as well. In essence, he sort of costs his team when he shoots, its just overshadowed by the rest of the Blazer’s offensive success. (The information about Aldridge comes from blazersedge.com via Ben Golliver. All other stats from espn.go.com)

Davis is my pick for the #1 PF, although I do see how arguments could be made for Griffin, Love and Aldridge as well. Somebody’s just going to have to convince me otherwise.

 

[t-loveParticipant]

My choice is Anthony Davis for the best though. At 20, he leads the league in blocks, gets in the passing lanes, involves his teammates,  and plays efficiently. Oh and he’s also averaging 20 and 10 with 3.3 blocks, 1.5 steals, and a solid shooting percentage (.518). Sure Love can shoot threes and rebound like a beast, but he is a seive on defense and only shoots 46% from the field and under 40% from deep. Blake is a beast with crazy hops, a great transition game, and an improving midrange and post game, but the defense isn’t nearly at Davis’ level. Davis also is better on the glass, averaging nearly 1 more rebound per game. Griffin puts up 3 more points a game on a slightly better field goal percentage (around 1% better), but Griffin has been the one whos had to carry LA while Paul is out, and I’m afraid hes pretty close to a finished product. Anthony Davis’ potential still seems unlimited. And then there’s Lamarcus Aldridge, who can light it up, albeit while leading the league in field goal attempts (21 per game…. more than KD, Melo, and some other notorious chuckers) and boasting a true shooting percentage 2.1% lower than the league average at his position and actually below the average for every other position as well. In essence, he sort of costs his team when he shoots, its just overshadowed by the rest of the Blazer’s offensive success. (The information about Aldridge comes from blazersedge.com via Ben Golliver. All other stats from espn.go.com)

Davis is my pick for the #1 PF, although I do see how arguments could be made for Griffin, Love and Aldridge as well. Somebody’s just going to have to convince me otherwise.

 

[MkadozaParticipant]

 This. Anthony Davis is still a wad of potential offensively, and a game changer defensively (eliete on the weakside, improvimg man-to-man.) Its easy to see Davis putting up 23-12-3-2stls and 4 blks a game with 50% from the field and 80% from the charity stripe in the very near future.

[MkadozaParticipant]

 This. Anthony Davis is still a wad of potential offensively, and a game changer defensively (eliete on the weakside, improvimg man-to-man.) Its easy to see Davis putting up 23-12-3-2stls and 4 blks a game with 50% from the field and 80% from the charity stripe in the very near future.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There are only a few players I’d take over Anthony Davis *going forward*. The sky is the limit for him. He’s not the best right now though, which is okay… He’s only 20 years old. Offensively, he’s just not as good as his stats suggest. He mainly scores on lobs, transition baskets, a few mid-range shots and then free-throws. He shows good footwork and a nice looking hook in the post, but he’s still very average/predictable in the post and he’s an average/below average passer. He doesn’t make his teammates better yet. He’s far behind Aldridge, Griffin and Love offensively (which is to be expected). 

Defensively, he’s a stat sheet stuffer. With his athleticism, motor, length, etc… He’s just everywhere (Like AK47 was in his prime). However, he’s still not an elite level/shut down type defender in my opinion. He’s still skinny, so he struggles holding his ground while defending his own man. He’s also still learning to be where he’s supposed to consistently and just how to communicate at that end. He’s definitely a great shot blocker (unique timing), but that doesn’t make him a great defender. 

I’m not trying to criticize him. Like I said… The sky is the limit for him. I got to see him play in person this season and have watched a lot of Pelicans games, and I just think it’s way too pre-mature to say he’s the best at his position. Maybe in fantasy basketball, but not real life. 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There are only a few players I’d take over Anthony Davis *going forward*. The sky is the limit for him. He’s not the best right now though, which is okay… He’s only 20 years old. Offensively, he’s just not as good as his stats suggest. He mainly scores on lobs, transition baskets, a few mid-range shots and then free-throws. He shows good footwork and a nice looking hook in the post, but he’s still very average/predictable in the post and he’s an average/below average passer. He doesn’t make his teammates better yet. He’s far behind Aldridge, Griffin and Love offensively (which is to be expected). 

Defensively, he’s a stat sheet stuffer. With his athleticism, motor, length, etc… He’s just everywhere (Like AK47 was in his prime). However, he’s still not an elite level/shut down type defender in my opinion. He’s still skinny, so he struggles holding his ground while defending his own man. He’s also still learning to be where he’s supposed to consistently and just how to communicate at that end. He’s definitely a great shot blocker (unique timing), but that doesn’t make him a great defender. 

I’m not trying to criticize him. Like I said… The sky is the limit for him. I got to see him play in person this season and have watched a lot of Pelicans games, and I just think it’s way too pre-mature to say he’s the best at his position. Maybe in fantasy basketball, but not real life. 

 

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